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New alien footage. Real or fake? Experts, have yourself a look & discuss

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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:10 AM
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This is an interesting thread. Whilst I accept there is a lot of fake footage out there some of it must be real. Just wish there was an easy way to work out which was which!




posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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Detail to us how this is fake. Pick it apart, piece by piece, and make a contribution.

Your ignorant comment only details how small of a box you are living in.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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stop saying people are ignorant when they are just doubting on something .. , even if its fake .. it makes us see how a real alien grey could look like .. , and it really , really have all the features abductees have witnessed

that artist did a really good job on creating this



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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Movements are too mechanical, and the other video is so fake its not funny

This might be some kind of viral marketing as well for some up coming game/movie



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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thats a bit off post but did somebody noticed that in the new transformers movie ,,, ,

they really got into moon anomalies for theyre inspiration .. , especially the transmition cut at the start of it .. and well in the new trailer .. we have space elevators .. as depictated in a lot of moon pictures

very interesting ..



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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Thanks, best "alien footage" I seen ever... looks real, dont look computer generated or puppets..
looks alive



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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Is it just me, or do the movements look very animated?
Fake, in my opinion... But it was pretty good.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:44 AM
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looks like CGI to me, i base this on 15 years of computer use, gaming and experience with photoshop software.

The movments look "natual" in a way that a human might apply, the movments are random and subtle yet machanical. The blinking frequency and animation seems dodgy also.

....last bit, leave the alien in the footage but blank out the location/year/somthing from the OSD? i suppose it seems very 'short' for such a supposedly important peice of hoaxing, er i mean world changing alien proof footage too.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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Looks like CGI to me. What gave it away? A lot. That stupid intro, about "maintaining anonymity"; jerkiness of the animation (EBE); but most of all, the blatant "vintage" filter applied to the CGI. Including the second video where things get VERY dark while filming the crashed UFO and bodies.

Nice try! Whoever put this together, spent a decent amount of time on it

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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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Pretty impressive footage. Of course, anything can be faked these days. Really, without the story behind this footage (and more of it), hard to chalk up as anything more than just a CGI artist's portfolio project.

Still though, it's impressive, and new.


I saw references on page 1 that it was posted before this thread. Does someone have a link? I wouldn't close this thread with so many replies, but I'd like to throw some kudos to the one who first posted it.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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I am highly doubting this video. I've been familiar with CGI for years and that's what I'm in school for. The alien looks like a 3D model to me and the movements definitely seem to be 'digital' and not realistic. There are certain details such as the hands that seem unrealistic as well, anatomically unrealistic even for something we know nothing about physically. Entertaining though.. I got a good laugh out of it.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:11 AM
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So many people are so quick to label something fake. Like the Jerusalem UFO video. Everyone is an expert at debunking. I like to ask the question, what would it take for you guys to consider something is real? I guess admission from authorities with an official video? Eye witness account is no longer good enough, video either by camera or cell phone is not good enough. Even seeing something on government controlled cameras, like traffic cams, is not good enough.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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It is probably a portfolio from an artist. It's release and public reactions to it is a plus, if favorable!

When the Alien raises its arm, in the first segment, I think I notice the usual unrealistic shape of the bicep we see on many CGI animations. That said, we know nothing of its anatomy, so it can't be conclusive, I think.
The same could be said about the "brow line" that bends when it closes its eyes. But for the same reason, it can't be considered conclusive.

About its clothes, the Greys gained public recognition with the Barney and Betty Hill abduction case, in the mid 60s. The video is reported to be from 1948, that's almost 17 years of time lapse that may have been used to conceive clothes line more suited for their trip on Earth compared with what they had when first coming here.

Anyone noticed if the dust and hairs on the video end up repeating? That would be time consuming and impressive if no patterns were repeated in the creation process, giving it a more realistic feel.

In anyways, if it is for a portfolio, we should hear about it soon enough. Very impressive if fake, and disconcerting if real...



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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I've been doing professional visual effects and computer animation for over 10 years. Its fake. Its very high quality for a hobbyist but definitely CG. Alien or human...there are far too many subtle muscle twitches and movements to mimic 100% in CG...so the end result is good...but lacks that final polish that really sells it.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Isnt there a way to take the video data and break it down so that we can see the way the pixels have been generated to tell if this was a man made fake or if its the real deal.

Surely there must be some way to tell using the video data

Other than its really pretty impressive , if it is fake looks sooo good !
looks like a friendly wee fella !

although if its real then im really impressed



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Sarcasm START

how convinent that everybody on ATS is a professional visual effects and computer animator..

how lucky we gut all you people with a million years of experience with photoshop..

how lucky we have you people to tell us whats real and whats a hoax

How lucky we all belive random people on ATS claiming to be this and that.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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I'm not even a healthy skeptic, let alone a debunker but... these just don't look authentic to me. I feel the art is convincing and it does not discount itself based on any preconceived notions of what I think they should look like or anything like that. It's just... off to me.

You know how your instinct will tell you in those movies like Cloverfield that the cameras don't look amateur enough? For whatever reason, every hoaxer or reality movie maker makes that same mistake. Why they don't just invest in actually buying the old cameras is beyond me.

If I were to point out specifics, I'd say the red flags for me were the filter effects applied to make the film grain look older and also, in that second video, they were actually zooming the camera in.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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I want this to be real but something tells me its faked, I must admit I do enjoy watching these videos....real or not.

www.youtube.com...



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Nah, film cameras don't record sound, so there is no reason for the projector noise. It's obviously been added. The question is, why would someone add a projector sound to a real video?



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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The problem I noticed with every video I've ever watched is that its either so clear, that it has to be fake; or its so unclear that no real conclusion can be drawn... at least, that's the prevailing attitude when I see people reacting to them. If this keeps going, we're essentially dooming ourselves to a constant state of doubt.

That being said, I was pretty impressed by this video. As much as I want to believe it though, I'm not jumping on any bandwagon (believing or disbelieving it). I really don't know. The eyes and facial features have to be some of the best I've ever seen. I remember reading someone complaining that it was 'too human'. I, on the other hand, thought that that was one of the features that sold me on the video. Every other 'grey' I've seen in a video has been so bland, generic, and lacking life that it screamed fake. In this one though, the creature actually has some character to it, and the eye movement (which is the biggest seller for me) was pretty solid.

That being said, there are some things keeping me from preaching this one as the real deal. As good as the eyes looked, someone had pointed out (I forget who) that it almost seemed like they tried too hard to get that part just right, and that kind of resonated with me. There's also the body movement that almost looks "puppet-like" more so than CGI. The weight on the body just didn't seem right, as if his upper body was too light for his massive head!


Anyway... sadly, I'm sure nothing will come of this video, as much as I want it to.

ETA: As for the added projector sound, and 'why it was added', the same thing can be said about why the titling and everything else was added. It was really just for 'effect' because the video is indeed being broadcast worldwide, so why not make it a bit more interesting by juicing it up some? I'm sure this was done on some kind of budget editing software that had some preset sound effects in there that you can use to spruce up your video. I mean, don't get me wrong, I realize its a completely unnecessary addition... I just don't think its something that should be considered when trying to find out if this video is fake or not. Turning the sound down on your pc won't change the "evidence" in front of you, so I really don't think it needs to be considered.
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