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Taitz Thrown Off MSNBC For Bringing Up Obama's Social Security Number

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posted on May, 2 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by UcDat
Nothing indeed

lets see your facts


Obama is president of the United States. Debunk that.


prove the first vid I posted about the BC was fake yeh this one 15 yr old has more sense than you and unlike you he backs it up

I do not need to make your case for you. You need to make your case for you. I am not sure why you do not get this. You want to prove Obama is a fraud, then do it. Otherwise sit there and whine. I do not need to do anything and he is going to stay in office. So, your call.

show we the fact she agreed to only talk about te BC issue or just watch the vid and see she was ambushed like the rest of us.

Well if you watch the entire setup and the interview, it is made more than clear what she was asked on to speak about. If you want to claim she was offered time to go over her SSN case, then you kind of need to prove your case. Why do you think you can assert things and tell people to prove you wrong?

Give me just one fact to support any of your stuff other than because 'they' said.
just one link one source after all we've given you tons.


You cannot decide if you want to debate Orly being treated rudely or if a 15 year old thinks the BC is fake. Either way, I can only ask so many times what the facts are you are going on about. I do not see tons of links and I seen my share of videos and blogs and WND articles, thanks. Just show me the facts and lets discuss them. I would like to see some evidence you even know what Orly is arguing.[


Ive given you hundred of youtubes vid if you check even a news article if you'd bothered to check.
and the best you can come back with is cause Obama is still president well guess what so was Nixon before they impeached him.
As for this Thread if you cant tell from the OP is about the interview fact it talks about the BC and you brought it up is plenty reason to debate it.

So like you said not my job to make your points get digging and come back with proof the interview wasn't an ambush like she said it was or that the BC is real And please stop insulting us with this circular logic.
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posted on May, 2 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Sherlock2009
Jesus,......!!!
Orly is a little out there but her intention is on the money.
I bet he's eating his words today after the long form was proven a composit!


So i was wondering..now the Whitehouse deliberately put out a faked LFBC..is the next step impeachment or criminal charges?



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by spikey

Originally posted by Sherlock2009
Jesus,......!!!
Orly is a little out there but her intention is on the money.
I bet he's eating his words today after the long form was proven a composit!


So i was wondering..now the Whitehouse deliberately put out a faked LFBC..is the next step impeachment or criminal charges?


We can hope for criminal charges but if they do it the whole house of cards will crash...
Sad fact is that this kind of cover up shows that much of the government is if not actively supporting it then at the very least complacent ie accessory to the crime.



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by UcDat
Ive given you hundred of youtubes vid if you check even a news article if you'd bothered to check.


That is hillarious because obviously YOU DID NOT BOTHER TO CHECK.
From your link of "hundreds of youtubes"

4th video in [yvid]SwnCV7zNz0w[/yivd]

9th vidoe in

12

14




Oh god. Who did not bother to check? That is just page one. I am wading through Armenian history, astrology, hayden panteirre causing aids, and moon landing hoax vids to find your HUNDREDS OF VIDEOS? Uh... no.


and the best you can come back with is cause Obama is still president well guess what so was Nixon before they impeached him.


Cool. Let me know when the impeachment begins. Until then, what do I need to prove to you? How about that. Tell me what it is you think I have to prove? See if you can keep it on topic.


As for this Thread if you cant tell from the OP is about the interview fact it talks about the BC and you brought it up is plenty reason to debate it.


So it is about Armenian youtubes now?



So like you said not my job to make your points get digging and come back with proof the interview wasn't an ambush like she said it was or that the BC is real And please stop insulting us with this circular logic.


Prove your claim false for you? Sorry but if you think it was an ambush, then you did not watch it. If you want me to believe it was an ambush, you need to make that case. I do not need to prove anything to you about that. Watch it. Anyone can see it is clear what she was there to discuss and how she refused to answer a simple question. I am not sure what you are watching but call it an ambush till the cows come home. Boycott Larry's sponsors. Send Orly money. Buy a house and teeth cleaning from her.
As for proving the BC is real?

Wow.

How about this. No.

I cannot prove it is real. However, I do not have to. People claiming it is fake need to prove it is fake. Otherwise that impeachment never happens. You do get that right?
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posted on May, 2 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by spikey
So i was wondering..now the Whitehouse deliberately put out a faked LFBC..is the next step impeachment or criminal charges?


So this is a proven fact now that the BC was fake?
Said who?
I do not see that anywhere in the video in the OP nor do I see Orly Taitz even making that case.



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by spikey
So i was wondering..now the Whitehouse deliberately put out a faked LFBC..is the next step impeachment or criminal charges?


So this is a proven fact now that the BC was fake?
Said who?
I do not see that anywhere in the video in the OP nor do I see Orly Taitz even making that case.


I meant the proof in this video

then you said he's sounds like a 15 year old kif so I put this up www.youtube.com... so you could take your pick...
instead you ignored it so I put up a news link you didnt read it if you had you'd know better than to try arguing it...
As for her making the case to defend it she didnt because thats not what she agreed to be interviewed about...
Look she has a post on glp go check it out if you want but I wish I could've talked her into posting here instead.

sorry i know you weren't replying to me but since we've been debating this the whole time Im not about to let go until you convince me I'm wrong like you did when I made that corsi thread. You did it with facts links proof you were simply eloquent and showed me that I could've been wrong.

Why cant you do the same here? Could it be that I have point that the vid I posted proves the official Whitehouse BC was a fraud and a poor one at that. Or that your position defending MSNBC's conduct on this interview is not based on fact but rather your own fundamental beliefs?


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posted on May, 2 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by UcDat
I meant the proof in this video

I am getting dizzy following you in circles. We went over this already. I asked you what "proof" you see in the video because I see none.


then you said he's sounds like a 15 year old kif so I put this up www.youtube.com... so you could take your pick...


And I just showed you that page is full of links about Armenia, the Antichrist, the moon landing, Satanism, Hayden Panetierre, etc. Was that supposed to help?


instead you ignored it so I put up a news link you didnt read it if you had you'd know better than to try arguing it..


It was an opinion piece about how some people think like you. Guess what. I knew that already. I asked you to point out any facts you found in that article because again, I found none. You have ignored every request for these facts you keep going on about. Where the hell are they? There were not in any of your videos.


As for her making the case to defend it she didnt because thats not what she agreed to be interviewed about...


What?


Look she has a post on glp go check it out if you want but I wish I could've talked her into posting here instead.


How about you go to GLP and get me some of these facts I have been hearing so much about and bring them back for us all to see.


sorry i know you weren't replying to me but since we've been debating this the whole time Im not about to let go until you convince me I'm wrong like you did when I made that corsi thread. You did it with facts links proof you were simply eloquent and showed me that I could've been wrong.


Damn, well when you put it like that. I guess I can admit I am not at my best. I am getting tired. Imagine if you spent over 2 years answering the same questions, providing the links, the docs. the PROOF, over and over again to new people every few days. After a while, especially when it comes to things that have been covered right here on ATS, it just gets really hard to even want to bother.

It is not my case to make. It is Orly's or yours. I asked what you want me to prove. I am not sure what exactly I can debunk when I still do not know what "facts" you think you have. Let me appologize now then if my participation in this thread has been less than convincing but you should understand, at this point why bother?

You convince me that Obama was is a fraud or let it go. See, if I do nothing, he just stays in office. If you do nothing, he just stays in office. It is really up to you. Show me what facts you think Orly has presented. Let's go over them.

I honestly thought this thread was simply about that specific interview as per the OP but I would be happy to be shown facts and even more happy to be stumped by them. If you do not want to make your case, then I guess you can go on believing what you believe and so can I. Fair?


Why cant you do the same here? Could it be that I have point that the vid I posted proves the official Whitehouse BC was a fraud and a poor one at that. Or that your position defending MSNBC's conduct on this interview is not based on fact but rather your own fundamental beliefs?


Partly because I am no longer sure what the topic of the thread is. My stance on the OP is well stated. I have no more to say on that and if you do not agree, oh well. Asking me to prove it was not an ambush is just silly. How about you prove it was not a secret plot by Orly? Look how much more attention you gave this interview than the RT one? It is not like this is a new developement. The CT SSN has been brought up plenty on ATS before. It is nothing but one of the many goal posts birthers shift between. His dad was british. Obama was indonesion. His mom was not old enough. His first COLB was a COLB and his second COLB just looks fishy. He has over 100 SSN. He has a CT SSN. Been here, done that.

So what are you asking me to prove to you? That Lawrence was not an ass or that Obama is legally president?



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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So glad to see my favourite and most feared rival back up to form


I will get back to you later I've got some r/l stuff i got ta do

peace



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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laurence is a butt and he always has been.

she didnt play ball and it was his way or the highway

msnbc is a joke and always has been.



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Impeachment would acknowledge that he is a rightful president.

What they need to do is properly investigate his background first, and then either put him on trial or impeach him. Even disregarding everything else, there is damning proof he has made illegal use of a Social Security number and must be investigated for this.
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posted on May, 2 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by Byteman
he has made illegal use of a Social Security number and must be brought to accountability for his actions.


People wonder why I lost my patience with this stuff so long ago. You just make claims about illegality based on what? Can I just accuse people of illegal activity as well or is that a special power only birthers have?

I am all ears and more than willing to be convinced that what you are saying is true. Go for it.



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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I saw the video's, and I have eyes.

Taitz clearly showed the documents. If you don't want to watch the video's then that is your own issue.



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Byteman
reply to post by Sinnthia
 


I saw the video's, and I have eyes.

Taitz clearly showed the documents. If you don't want to watch the video's then that is your own issue.


I have watched the videos. As I have said many times, I have heard all this before.

Documents proving what law was broken?

You said he did something illegal. What was that?
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posted on May, 2 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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She has a document that shows the Soc. Sec. number he uses was not issued to him. She also has a copy of his Selective Service application in which he uses the number that was not issued to him.

Like I said, if you had watched the videos all over the place right now, you would have seen it. Since you missed said documents, you have proven you are trying to debunk this info without actually having researched it first.

LMAO, using a Social Security number that is not yours is illegal. Again, thanks for proving you haven't researched the issue.
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posted on May, 2 2011 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Byteman
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She has a document that shows the Soc. Sec. number he uses was not issued to him. She also has a copy of his Selective Service application in which he uses the number that was not issued to him.


2 questions.

1. Where did she get is SSN from?
2. When did she prove it was not issued to him?


Like I said, if you had watched the videos all over the place right now, you would have seen it. Since you missed said documents, you have proven you are trying to debunk this info without actually having researched it first.


No...what I am doing is asking you to be rational and think about what you actually have instead of what Orly says she has.

I see no proof that Obama is using a number that was not issued to him. Can you give me a minute mark to skip to?



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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2 questions. 1. Where did she get is SSN from? 2. When did she prove it was not issued to him?


I'll let you answer yourself.

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I have watched the videos. As I have said many times, I have heard all this before.


As for the rest of your post...



No...what I am doing is asking you to be rational and think about what you actually have instead of what Orly says she has. I see no proof that Obama is using a number that was not issued to him. Can you give me a minute mark to skip to?


If you have seen the videos then why do you need minute marks?

That's a contradiction, why are you contradicting yourself?



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Byteman
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2 questions. 1. Where did she get is SSN from? 2. When did she prove it was not issued to him?


I'll let you answer yourself.


1. From an admitted fraud, liar, and identity thief.
2. Nowhere in the video.


As for the rest of your post...
If you have seen the videos then why do you need minute marks?


Because no matter how many times I watch it, I never see her prove Obama is using a number that was never issued to him.


That's a contradiction, why are you contradicting yourself?


I am not sure you know what that actually means. I see no proof. I watched the videos. You cannot tell me what the proof is or where to find it in the video. THIS is why birthers are mostly a joke.



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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In the US Using a social security number that belonged to a dead man is a felony
period...
a citizen of the US would know that


In her most recent filing Taitz wrote:

I submitted an affidavit from a licensed investigator Neil Sankey, showing that according to most reputable National databases Lexis Nexis and Choice Point Barack Obama used as many as 39 different social security numbers, none of which were issued in the state of Hawaii, where he resided. (Submitted as an exhibit with the complaint)



The same affidavit contained information, showing that the social security number [Social Security Number redacted, Doc C.], that he used most often, was issued in the state of Connecticut to an individual born in 1890. Since Obama never resided in the state of Connecticut and was not born in 1890, it was a sign of clear violation of Title 42 US Code, section 408(a)(7)(B), misuse of a social security number, which is a federal felony punishable under Title 18 USC by fine or imprisonment of up to five years or both and an evidence of foreign birth and lack of proper citizenship status.

and

I submitted an affidavit from a licensed investigator Susan Daniels, showing that according to her research Obama used a stolen social security number [Social Security Number redacted, Doc C.], which was issued to another individual born in 1890 in the state of CT.


www.obamaconspiracy.org...
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posted on May, 2 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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You obviously feel pretty passionate about this issue. Let me ask, is this your full-time job (trying to argue anything about Obama's BC)? Happy Birther Day? What's that even supposed to mean?



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 06:25 PM
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Wow I never thought i would say it but that guy is almost worse than Bill O.

He wouldn't give an inch wow she never had a chance.

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