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Don't Be Distracted : The Real Problem = Historic Mississippi Flood/Intentional Levee Breach

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posted on May, 8 2011 @ 09:58 PM
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I don't know if someone posted this link and I missed it... otherwise I'm sorry if I've overlooked it. This site has a handy live ticker: Live Weatherbug . com

* At 2 PM Sunday The Stage Was 47.5 Feet. * Major Flooding Is Occurring And Major Flooding Is Forecast. * Maximum Forecast Stage Of 48.0 Feet Tuesday Morning May 10.

The above is local for Shelby Cty, you can choose another zone as far as I can tell, you go to their National Alerts, click on the handy color-coded map.

The New York Times reports that:


For the people responsible for trying to manage the unmanageable river, each success is replaced by new worries. “We’re just at the beginning of the beginning,” said Maj. Gen. Michael J. Walsh of the Army Corps of Engineers and president of the Mississippi River Commission. ...
The river fell to 60.1 feet by Tuesday afternoon. But, General Walsh warned, the floodway only offered temporary relief and the water levels upstream could soon rise again. “The crest will come back up,” he added. “We’ll see where we go from there.” ...
More than 40 percent of the nation’s waters drain into the Mississippi, and relentless rainfall is creating formidable challenges. ...


Here's a link for the Missouri Dept. of Natural Resources they have all sorts of stats posted on the flood along with links to the relative areas.

This website called Gulf Coast Rising has pages and pages of the latest headlines along with links to the stories.

Like this one from the Daily Comet

Flood maps withheld by corps officials



Maps that detail where the worst flooding would occur if the Morganza Spillway is opened next week are being withheld by the Corps of Engineers, Terrebonne officials said.
The maps’ existence was made public Friday by Terrebonne Parish President Michel Claudet, the same day that President Obama declared a state of emergency for Louisiana and local residents prepared for record flooding. ...
Late in the day, corps officials said the “inundation maps” could be made available before day’s end. Federal officials had been promising the maps for days, Claudet said, but had not produced them. ...
Corps representatives did not return the newspaper’s Friday afternoon phone calls. ...

Click the above link for the full article.

Highly Allochthonus is a "News and commentary from the world of geology and Earth science"
They have some pretty good information as well. You can find general info about the flood, an explanation of what spillways are designed to do.. very informative for those not well educated in all the details.

The volume of water carried by the Mississippi River in flood can be measured in the same unit as ocean currents — within the next few days, the Mississippi River at Natchez will be flowing more than 2 Million cubic feet per second.

They also have links to the NASA Earth Observatory images the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers.

That's all I can find for now, sorry if any of it has been presented before... Hope it helps!

And to all of you affected, take care and stay safe... our thoughts are with you

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posted on May, 8 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Whatever your opinion about the Webbot material, here is what was said in January:


Rather the accrual of the subsets would tend to suggest that the [floods] meme will be going 'walk about' this year, as first one region, then another experience[(supposedly, once in a) millennium floods]. The horrific level of damage seen so far in 2011 in places such as Brazil and Austrailia, and the Phillipines will not mark anything close to the 2011 [most damaging flood] The data accretion patterns continue at a more or less staedy pace as modelspace is moved forward into 2011, and with only two minor exceptions, the impact sum rate stays also staedy. This would seem to be indicating that 2011 will have a more or less continuous rate of [flooding].


Flooding. Check.

He also says


The Terra entity continues to show that [toxic contamination] including [waves (of) radiation] will be problems for [humans] and [animal life] over the next 3 years.


Japan. Check.

This was from a report dated 1/25/2011 by the way. Seems to be right on the money so far. I am definitely becoming more of a believer in webbot. He also talks about an increase in sinkholes and a major lake draining so fast that it can be watched on video. Is it talking about Lake Michigan draining with a NM earthquake? I hope not but so far, re-reading the report with the perspective of time (I read it the first time when it came out in January) is starting to freak me out a bit.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 10:23 PM
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I usually keep my webbot opinions to myself, but the latest edition has been giving me the creeps. There is A LOT that it seemed to get right for the spring. I HATE that, because it's not good news.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 10:46 PM
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I haven't seen #10 yet. Still tripping out on #9

It talks about critical infrastructure being swept away (hospitals, fire stations, etc), damage levels language higher than they had prior to Katrina, levees failing "insanity producing gas releases and toxic waste contamination" Also to bring it on home...


These [floods] are also part of a [soon to be revealed secret plan] to [depopulate] certain parts of [north america] for [reasons (of TPTW)] These areas are extensivly cross linked over to the GlobalPop entity where they terminate in sets with predominately Mexico and Gulf Central America geographic references. Thus, the interpretation is that TPTW had a plan to [shift (or kill off?) the populace] of a large portion of the Gulf of Mexico region for their own purposes.....affecting the [sounther USA from FL through TX]...as a direct result of Springtime events in the GOM region in 2011.]


Need I say more? For all those living in the areas currently affected. Be awake and aware.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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Hi i am a new member here and cant seem to post this myself and create a thread so if someone with access can do that it would be great..I was watching cleaveland show tonight and set mcfarlane says at about 7 min in the show the federal government blew the levees on katrina.. interesting to think he is saying this on the show and who was watching..

thanks here is the link www.videobb.com... it is at 633 in the video..a pop up will come up but click it off.

thanks

rk
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posted on May, 8 2011 @ 11:22 PM
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I know that it has probably posted but could you please repost the link for webbot information you guys are looking at? Thanks!!



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 11:33 PM
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I know that it has probably posted but could you please repost the link for webbot information you guys are looking at? Thanks!!


Can't. It's directly from the Shape of Things to Come #9 pdf, which is purchased. The website is www.halfpasthuman.com

However, if you torrent search you are likely to find the information you are looking for.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 11:40 PM
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Ok thanks for address. =)

I want to be able to keep up with your conversation but didn't have a source so I appreciate your quick response.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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I will never understand why people move to or build next to rivers period. The fact is, rivers flood, it's the nature of things. It seems to me that people just don't think ahead and make educated decisions.

Many places are nice to visit but I wouldn't move to them simply because they're prone to earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, flooding, wildfires, and crime.

Think ahead and consider every possibility before you decide to set up homebase somewhere.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 12:11 AM
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I will never understand why people move to or build next to rivers period. The fact is, rivers flood, it's the nature of things. It seems to me that people just don't think ahead and make educated decisions.


Many of the great civilizations were built next to rivers. The Nile flooded annually--that didn't stop the Egyptians. Plus, many people are born into where they live and choose to stay around family. Point is don't harsh on people that are already getting harshed on by nature and hope no natural disasters happen where you are. Apparently sinkholes can open up out of nowhere.


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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by coyotepoet
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I will never understand why people move to or build next to rivers period. The fact is, rivers flood, it's the nature of things. It seems to me that people just don't think ahead and make educated decisions.


Many of the great civilizations were built next to rivers. The Nile flooded annually--that didn't stop the Egyptians. Plus, many people are born into where they live and choose to stay around family. Point is don't harsh on people that are already getting harshed on by nature and hope no natural disasters happen where you are. Apparently sinkholes can open up out of nowhere.


edit on 9-5-2011 by coyotepoet because: fleshing out point



Well said coyotepoet,

Not trying to be mean or anything to anyone...

But I love in the 3rd poorest county in America... I even wrote a thread about it...

This place has nothing and I will be "nothing" as long as I live here...

But I wont leave, I have had several chances... but I want to be near my family. I Love them. They took care of me when I was young... I will take care of them now.

People have a million reason's to stay/live where they are...
their choices might not be the most logical... but you can't -shake your head- and ignore the fact that they are a human suffering.

 

I am sorry for my lack of recent involvement in this thread...
in the last day or so!!!!
But I salute those who are keeping the great work up!!!


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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 01:47 AM
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As far as New Orleans goes.... One statistic I heard during the time of Katrina....New Orleans has a population 3 times greater the any other major US City, of people that were born in that same city.

I think there's a huge difference when you were born and raised some place. When that area and the people there, are all you have ever known.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 02:26 AM
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Many of the great civilizations were built next to rivers. The Nile flooded annually--that didn't stop the Egyptians. Plus, many people are born into where they live and choose to stay around family. Point is don't harsh on people that are already getting harshed on by nature and hope no natural disasters happen where you are. Apparently sinkholes can open up out of nowhere.


edit on 9-5-2011 by coyotepoet because: fleshing out point


Yeah, those were "ancient civilizations", they had to live near water sources. We live in the 21st century now where we have 100's of miles of pipes to carry water to people.

Natural disasters can happen anywhere, even in the safer places...I'm simply saying they should think ahead and live in places were they're less likey to be in the line of fire, so to speak.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by Stormgodess
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As far as New Orleans goes.... One statistic I heard during the time of Katrina....New Orleans has a population 3 times greater the any other major US City, of people that were born in that same city.

I think there's a huge difference when you were born and raised some place. When that area and the people there, are all you have ever known.


Check those population numbers now, post Katrina. When people are lucky enough to live thru these horrendous disasters, they learn. Like a spider's web...if you keep destroying it, each succesive web becomes less intricate. When people have lived thru enough natural disasters and have had their homes and family heirlooms destroyed they finally figure it out and move away to a safer place. You hear them say it all the time as a news reporter interviews them on TV whilst in the middle of the meyhem, "I just can't take this no more, we're gonna have to move away."

Don't get me wrong people. I have sympathy for those that have to go thru this. I have family in the rescently devastated Tuscaloosa, AL. Eventually, they learn the hard way and move to higher ground and/or safer locations.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 02:47 AM
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Fine. But they haven't and like Eric said-they are humans suffering and that should be all that matters at this point.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 03:01 AM
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You do have some good pointers there...

But not everyone is as lucky as you to live in the "11th Dimension"
Where its "fine and dandy", perfect and happy and nothing bad ever happens...

For the rest of us who live in the paths of; but not limited to...

*Super Volcanoes
*Mega Quakes
*Hurricanes
*Tornado's
*Floods
*Evil Dictators

We have to "deal"
We can't always help where we live...
we gotta live somewhere...
I'm sure given a choice almost anyone would live in the 11th dimension with you...

...maybe




speaking of dealing with...

Check out these posts/links as a recap of some recent info shared here

Here

Here (offsite)

Here (offsite)




 


g'nite all



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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Here is the "official" Morganza Estimated Inundation Map. The image is kind of small, but you can find the map at the link provided. If this has already been posted here, my apologies.

Morganza Estimated Inundation map



For those of you that live in this area, heads up!



Link to map:

katc.com



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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From the Corp of Engineers Memphis District Press Conference May 8, 2011


apps.facebook.com...

Part 1

www.youtube.com...

Part 2

www.youtube.com...=330
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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Corps of Engineers Opens Louisiana Spillway
online.wsj.com...


The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers began opening the Bonnet Carré Spillway in Louisiana Monday to ease pressure on the levee system protecting New Orleans, continuing the battle against a Mississippi River flood that could crest at Memphis later in the day. Bonnet Carré was most recently opened in 2008, but the Corps said last week that it was likely to open the Morganza Floodway, also in Louisiana, which would lower the river from Baton Rouge to New Orleans but could require the evacuation of a dozen towns. The floodway hasn't been used since 1973.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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Video on how the flood is threatning 12% of U.S. refineries. Could potentially affect oil price 7-12 dollars per barrel, and how opening the spillway is supposed to relieve this problem. No mention on cost to farmers or other consequences.

Link: www.washingtonpost.com...



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