Egypt calls on US to recognise Palestinian state

Egypt calls on US to recognise Palestinian state

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CAIRO (AFP) – Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil al-Arabi on Sunday called on the United States to recognise a Palestinian state, as rival Palestinian factions prepare to sign a reconciliation accord in Cairo.

Arabi urged visiting US Congressman Steve Chabot to "press Congress and the American administration to recognise a Palestinian state."

Recognition "would correspond with previous statements by the American administration supporting peace based on two states," the official MENA news agency quoted him as saying.

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This is yet another interesting development out of the new Egyptian Government that earlier in the week announced it would be reopening its border with Gaza after helping to successfully end the rift between Hamas and Fatah and the formation of a new Palestinian Government.

Egypt’s new government doesn’t seem to be wasting much time, after years of Mubarak’s appeasement policies towards Israel and the United States it appears Egypt is intent on recapturing its long since relinquished title as leader of the Arab World.

With the US backing a sometimes dubious spate of uprisings in the Arab/Muslim world can it really sidestep the Palestinian issue?

Is Egypt really serious about opening up the border with Gaza and the championing of a Palestinian State or is it some larger bargaining position in some hidden game it is playing?

Interesting times and developments to be sure as the status quo in the Muslim and Arab world changes almost daily under a withering pace of events.


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I wouldve expected nothing less from the leaders of the rebellion, The Muslim Brotherhood.

A power shift is occurring all over the middle east. And Americas/Israels puppet dictators are starting to lose power. More events like this are soon to come. Interesting times we live in for sure.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Just speculation,

but I think Egypt and Palestine are either looking for Israel to concede to some degree, or they are looking for another war.

However, I think if their is a prolonged war Egypt and Palestine are going to begin the war by putting pressure on Israel anyway they can(This Gaza/Fatah deal is a perfect bait, perhaps more is to come.) . I think their goal, like I stated above, is either a concession or a war that begins with an Israeli pre-emptive strike.

The war scenario is probably less favorable to them than some kind of concession, but I wouldn't really know.

Originally posted by TriForce
I wouldve expected nothing less from the leaders of the rebellion, The Muslim Brotherhood.

Yep, good on them..

Palestine has been oppressed and starved for decades..
Will be good to see the border opened and Palestine getting much needed supplies..

n1. Arabs are finally growing some cohones and helping out their fellow Arabs...about freaking time.

Then again...if this is all Zionist organized, then it's merely a build up to the big one...

reply to post by TriForce


I am pretty sure Nabil el-Araby has nothing to do with the Muslim Brotherhood...

The Muslim Brotherhood weren't even mentioned in the article.

Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by TriForce
I wouldve expected nothing less from the leaders of the rebellion, The Muslim Brotherhood.

Yep, good on them..

Palestine has been oppressed and starved for decades..
Will be good to see the border opened and Palestine getting much needed supplies..

It really will, and more importantly it takes a lot of the steam out of the Zionist arguments in the past that Egypt doesn't like the Palestinians either.

As if Egypt really was just their 80 year old corrupt dictator who had been clinging to power since the 70's squirelling away billions to do the US and Israeli's bidding.

reply to post by Marulo


I really don't know, the new Egyptian leadership might want or need all kinds of things from the "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap" crowd at Langley, or monies or debt forgiveness from the Banksters, or weapons from the Pentagon.

Or they just might actually be trying to do the right thing as unusual as it is to see in our world.

I think time tells that when they either go the distance and make good on promises or sell out and don't.

Thanks for posting.

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I have no idea what Mohamed Tantawi would do with the west. Given who he is, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to concede to the west. On the other hand, he is at the disposal of the Egyptian people (as it seems).

Although, how long will he even be in power? He is only acting as the head of the state, if I am not mistaken their are elections being planned or are actually underway?

I am confident that El Baradei won't have anything to do with the west anyway (Unless it is on his terms). I don't know much about any of the other candidates.

And no problem for posting :]

Its slowly creeping up...i guess in time, well within several months all should be put in place. Like i have said in some other thread. These people did not simply wake up after a hard drinking night and decided to over throw decade long institutions. Seems like the jackals are out in force without any indications of holding back.

Sadly, this is the beginning of the end for Israel, but it must be said that they (partly) have been digging their own grave. Under constant attacks of Arab nations, they have become one paranoid state that cannot distinguish anymore between good and bad. Every act, every killing, everything that goes against the rights of humanity is allowed - all to protect the state of Israel.

All Palestinians need to suffer because of a minority of terrorists. Hamas has greatly contributed too, to the dire situation Palestinians now live in. They hate Israel, will never truly accept Israel's existence and have never sincerely cared about the lives of their fellow Palestinians.

With American power fading, Western-minded Arab puppet regimes falling, Israel will become more and more isolated. Israeli's have been led to believe all Palestinians (and Arabs) are terrorists, while muslims are thought all Israelis are evil and unreliable. It's the way people have and are brought up. Changing this mentality will take a very long time.

I only see Israel regaining sympathy if they acknowledge a fair and free Palestinian state. Should Palestine damage that trust, they should not complain if Israel would bomb the hell out of them... It's up to both people, but Israel should give it a change and "stop seeing an enemy behind every tree".

Originally posted by tristar
Its slowly creeping up...i guess in time, well within several months all should be put in place. Like i have said in some other thread. These people did not simply wake up after a hard drinking night and decided to over throw decade long institutions. Seems like the jackals are out in force without any indications of holding back.

It really does seem as if there is a well planned, and even well executed conspiracy afoot to change the status quo starting with the Middle East.

Yet with top down vertical integration remaining the preferred method of governance, using a process of who climbs to the top of the vertical heap by any and all means that will propell them there, does the cabal driving these events truly have the control of who is emerging to the tops of the heaps and more importantly do they even want it at this point, or are they just promoting chaos at a point in time when promoting order would be too expensive economically and materially, knowing full well that once enough chaos is present that people will cry out for order. A new order? A New World Order?

So I think in my mind that remains the million dollar question. Is the cabal actually forming real hard and solid alliances with who they are helping quickly rise to the top in the new governments to replace the ones toppling like dominos, or are they instead now running a game purposefully designed to be full of wild cards.

Or to put it another way, is Egypt now doing what 1 year ago it never would, and the United States politically never could, simply because the United States politically never could.

Is a new generation of leaders being hastily given power to in essence use it for what would be political suicide missions if U.S. funded puppets were seen or made to do the very same moves?

Is it a process where control was lost, or control was never desired, or a process where control still exists, but through so many cut outs it would take longer than the leaders will be in power to trace the actual chains and line of command?

Interesting times, and genuine wild cards in the deck might make it not so easy to predict the outcome of.

The U.S. and Israel can never recognize a Palestinian state within the borders of Israel because Jews, and I guess Christians too, believe that they must reestablish and control the entire old-state of Israel for the biblical prophecies to come true. This is why Israel never agrees to a peace deal, even though the Palestinians have agreed to concede a vast majority of Jerusalem to Israel in exchange for them to recognize Palestine. It would end all of the suffering, but can’t happen if they want to fulfill their idiotic prophecies.

Egypt is doing what they should have all along asking for a two-state solution that would end the Jew vs. Muslim mess and just let them live in peace.

I think you guys are correct in thinking the Egyptian protests and the fall of Mubarak is part of a larger plan, I just don't know what or whose plan it is. Is it the CIA and Mossad? Or is it Saudi Arabia and Sunni Muslims? Or, is it the Shiite Muslims and Iran interfering?

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It's a shame that we live in so called free societies, where the largest political factions see themselves as 'slaves' to their lord.

It seems to me that the forefathers were wisely on to something when they attempted to seperate religion from State only to see just about every politician since then use their influence within the State to cater to the religious for their votes.

It's kind of like you can take the boy out of the city but you can't take the city out of the boy.

I don't think the Saudis or Iranians have the sophistication to use across the spectrum ellements like we have seen being used.

The Internet is used to ferment the seeds of rebellion, Intelligence Agencies on the ground are used to create and fund 'grass roots' organizations to steer the rebellious to in the flesh and blood brick and mortar world, the mainstream press to give them favorable news reports and to further bolster their popularity, the diplomatic core to insist that they not be challenged violently by the regimes they wish to then overthrow, majority or not, ability to govern or not, known intentions or not, then finally backed up by a huge international military apparatus.

That sure ain't the Saudis or Iranians manipulating all that.

That's the CIA, CRF, and Bilderbergers with a splash of Tavistock and a dash of the House of Windsor for flavor, all blessed by the Vatican.

To me the question is are they really in control of the emerging ellements are do they just want some wild dogs running through the neighborhood prior to the new ellections for Dog Catcher?

The map tells the story...

How does a defensive action result in the total conquest of someone else's lands? The answer is that it does not. Israel is the aggressor. The maps of Israel then and now prove it.

whatreallyhappened.com...

reply to post by TriForce


It is pretty amazing that the world has stepped back and allowed this to happen.

Even shamefully supported it in bizarre and hypocritical ways.

The question remains will the land thefts really stand the true test of time? 60 years beign a drop in the bucket compared to the greater ebb and flow of things.

Is there a straw that breaks the camels back? What happens when if and when it does?

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
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It is pretty amazing that the world has stepped back and allowed this to happen.

Even shamefully supported it in bizarre and hypocritical ways.

The question remains will the land thefts really stand the true test of time? 60 years beign a drop in the bucket compared to the greater ebb and flow of things.

Is there a straw that breaks the camels back? What happens when if and when it does?

How was this allowed to happen? Israel played the poor me, self pity, holocaust victim card like a pro.
No one dares say anything to them, for fear of being labeled an anti-semite, nazi sympathizer

Now what a problem America is going to have now! They cannot go against Israel and yet have promoted (in your dreams) peace in the region.

No way will they turn against Israel.