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Enough Already!!!...Libya disabled children school hit in NATO strike...

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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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This article I found seems to shed some light on why the school was bombed. I believe they have these statements from NATO all lined up and ready to go at a moments notice.


Before dawn Saturday, warplanes hit beachfront government buildings in Tripoli. Libyan officials alleged the strike was meant to kill Gadhafi as he spoke live on state TV, but the broadcast building was not damaged and Gadhafi spoke from an undisclosed location.


So we see by the statement above that they wanted to kill Gadhafi so badly that they indiscriminately bombed an area where they guessed that he might be located at the time. They saw him speaking live on the television and I'm sure ordered any available assets that were airborne to converge on the area where they thought he might be broadcasting from. Apparently he must have been broadcasting from an area that looked very much like a beach. So any beach like areas became fair game for the eager justice league.


The strikes badly damaged a two-story building that Libyan officials said housed several welfare and human rights organizations. A school for children with Down syndrome and the offices of parliamentary staff were also damaged.


So we see that it wasn't only the school that was damaged in their zealous efforts. The Welfare and Human Rights buildings needed to be eliminated from the complex equation that the sinister Gadhafi formulated for his opposition to decipher. I thought our electronic warfare capabilities would have targeted the transmission with god like precision. My that Gadhafi is a clever fiend!


NATO said the target was a command-and-control center. A TV transmission tower and a large cell phone antenna stood nearby, and a third strike gouged a crater just 50 meters (50 yards) from the TV building. Foreign diplomats and local church leaders inspected the airstrike damage in a government-escorted tour. "Bombing is not a solution," said Bishop Giovanni Martinelli, the senior Catholic clergyman in Tripoli, adding that he was giving his personal view.


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Yes, now we see that the actual target was a T.V. buiding, a T.V. transmission tower, and a large cell phone antenna.

The transmission and cell phone towers remain standing as does the well concealed T.V. building.

One of the weapons dropped gouged out a nice crater though. High fives all around.

We do more before nine a.m. than most people do all day...(Enjoying a good laugh with fellow soldiers as we sip some piping hot coffees.)


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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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I think another goal might have been to destroy the building when children were NOT present in order to keep children out of the compound in the future.

I do not condone this war for resources and I do not condone the previous propping up of dictators either. America has become far too imperialistic for my liking. We have far too many problems of our own to be meddling in the affairs of others.

These pseudo revolutions are nothing more than the NWO on the march,nothing good will come of this for the masses in the end but a wider police state of overtaxed controlled slaves.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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**** NATO. They're full of ****..



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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JHC!!

Guess I won't voting for another year... Sick SOB's... Every damn one of them.

Just a few days into the strikes the coalition stated and I quote "This is not an invasion"

Really...

Really...

You think that you feed us BS on the boob tube that you think you are smarter than us? We are well into the 2nd month of this so-called "non-invasion" anyone else want to elaborate what constitutes an invasion then... Cause obviously these egostistical morons have no idea or failed to look up the meaning of the word in a dictionary!

Hell.. The news can't be bothered to report anything like this unless it is for TPTB's gain.

I'm praying to God right now that the muslims turn round and say "enough is enough". Really damn hard!

It seems my prayers may be about to be answered if Gaddafi goes through with his threat on Italy.

Enough said.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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I found that article disgusting A school that specialises for kids with downs syndrome NATO should not of hit it no matter what they thought was there. imaging if gadaffi hit it they would be an uproar its like what the libya goverment spokesman said its the law of the JUNGLE the whole no fly zone has gone to far .



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Not really saying anything with this post as I don't know the full details (and neither do you), but what I can gather from this article is that:

-Libyan officials claim Gaddafi was present at the location.
"...though Libyan officials said it was Muammar Gaddafi himself, who was giving a live television address at the time...

-The school was not severely damaged, rather a single office was destroyed
"...The missile completely destroyed an adjoining office in the compound that houses the government's commission for children...

-The bombing happened when there were no children present.
"...There were no children at the school when the missiles hit early on Saturday morning, since Friday begins the weekend in Libya. Children had been due to come in on Saturday morning...

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And the most important part is this
-There is no access for journalists to cover the aspects of damage and casualties from the NATO strikes
"...The Libyan government has repeatedly said that NATO airstrikes have hurt and killed civilians but has not responded to requests by journalists to visit the hospitals, making it tough to verify casualty figures...


An unbiased POV will see that NATO bombed this installment when it wasn't operational (empty). No kids were hurt, nobody died, not a word of a hurt staff person or anyone else, and Libyan government don't allow journalists to visit the place.

Isn't it a-bit- early to yell out TYRANNY and scream your hearts out at American imperialism?



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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You don't feel that the article you're speaking of is trying to establish an agenda laid down by a tyranical and imperialistic influence?

You stated that you do not know and neither do I. The other thing you said is that they will not let anyone in to see for themselves. That in and of itself is establishing the tyranny and imperialism. Do we really know who isn't allowing access?


In a rambling pre-dawn speech, Gadhafi said "the door to peace is open." "You are the aggressors. We will negotiate with you. Come, France, Italy, U.K., America, come to negotiate with us. Why are you attacking us?" he asked.


In the quote above the author describes Gadhafi's speach as rambling before halfheartedly relaying what the speach was about. He could have been begging for foreign journalists to come in but we're not even sure about what was said because we are relying on what the imperialistic tyrannical forces, as you so eloquently put it, are telling us. Although it does conjure the image of an incoherent and desperate lunatic that is begging for mercy. The Colosseum goes wild as the predators are clearly guiding their prey into a classic kill zone.


A rebel spokesman, Jalal al-Galal, called the cease-fire offer a publicity stunt. "We don't believe that there is a solution that includes him or any member of his family. So it is well past any discussions. The only solution is for him to depart," he said.


Now they tell us that a rebel militant of no actual significance believes that this is an orchestrated publicity stunt to coerce the public into siding with Gadhafi and this person does not believe that there is a way to diffuse the situation at all. So let's perpetuate the costly campaigns to kill this person we have thrown into the arena because this is actually a thinly veiled public execution going on. So sit back and enjoy the cool breeze swirling around Colosseum and watch the helpless prisoner try to run some more.


"The regime has announced cease-fires several times before and continued attacking cities and civilians," the official said. "All this has to stop, and it has to stop now," the official said.


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Well we are still relying on their word because as you said, no one gets in. That is convenient too. This official informs everyone of the ultimatum. This has to stop and it has to stop now. Yes, the prey cannot run forever and the beasts are nimble and fast and do not tire so easily. Let's everyone show our enthusiasm by displaying a big thumbs down for the quarry and watch the inevitable happen. The excitement is palpable!


-The school was not severely damaged, rather a single office was destroyed "...The missile completely destroyed an adjoining office in the compound that houses the government's commission for children...


That should put the parents who frequent the school with their disabled children at ease. It's not severely damaged, just a little. The other place is really destroyed but the school only wee bit. Don't sweat it.


NATO air strike hits Libya disabled children school Shattered glass litters the carpet at the Libyan Down's Syndrome Society, and dust covers pictures of grinning children that adorn the hallway, thrown into darkness by a NATO strike early on Saturday.




www.worldbulletin.net...



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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What if they had gotten Kadaffi? Isn't hitting the school a risk worth taking?

Would you have risked the lives of 30 children with autism for a chance to prevent countless more deaths, or would you have aborted the operation?

Just curious..

Eliad.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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Rubbish that school should not of been targetted even if it was empty If been the other way round america france britain would of milked it in there favour



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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What if they had gotten Kadaffi? Isn't hitting the school a risk worth taking? Would you have risked the lives of 30 children with autism for a chance to prevent countless more deaths, or would you have aborted the operation? Just curious..


You have some serious issues. No, hitting the school and the whole of Libya with mult-million dollar weaponry in the hopes that we actually kill the villain that has been established for us is ridiculous, and the whole venture grooms us to accept killing and murder as alright as long as it is a sanctioned killing that the PTB approve of and have made sure that we too agree and eagerly await the demise of this villain they have fabricated.

You can justify it in your own mind by telling yourself along with the hypnotized masses that what you've done actually saved lives, but you and I know better don't we Eliad? Who says vengeance is mine? That's not the God of Israel I attempted to quote was it?




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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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you are very brave...i had stop to talk with people who think they have world on the palm of there hand and they can teach you life...they live on a pathetically Manichean world , all this guy has watched too much star wars and spend their time in front of halo, there is necessarily a vilain and a a hero,the dark force and the jedi and obviously they are on the right side...disconnected from reality ... otherwise they would find no excuse for the inexcusable ... and they make you a lesson and tell you that you are a naive ... What I find even more regrettable is that there are enough crazy people who are agreed with them and give them star .

this world is pathetic ...

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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
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No kids being killed dosen't take away from the fact that NATO targete a school for the disabled. NATO's mission is suppose to be humanitarian, they are suppose to protect civilians. How does the fact that there were no children killed substitute away from the fact that
a) Gadaffi has been targeted for assasination
b) Civilians have been killed as a result of NATO attacks
c) Civilian infastructure has been destroyed as a result of NATO attacks
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d) Rebel soldiers have been killed in incidents of freindly fire by NATO forces


You are familiar with what war is right?

War isnt pretty it doesnt matter how you cut it, this isnt the movies and its dirty and ugly.........you people would have an aneurism if you witnessed the collateral damage during the first two world wars........

Sorry, its not sunshine and lollipops and unicorn farts, but thats the way it is......its not nice, its not suppose to be......

however im NOT saying i agree with whats going on over there......

2..........Soooooo can we take Obamas Nobel Peace Prize back now?
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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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As I said, I'm merely curious to see what people's responses would be, this is regardless of what I think of this ridiculous "war".

I often find myself being the devil's advocate, that doesn't necessarily mean I hold the same opinions as it does, I'm simply trying to encourage people to think outside of the black/white, right/wrong way of thinking.

At any rate, they aren't exactly carpet bombing Libya to hit this one guy, they had intl on him being around, they took the shot, didn't they?

The question still stands for anyone willing to answer it- What if they had managed to hit Kadaffi (whether or not that'd really matter is up to you) and end the war, but it'd cost the lives of innocent disabled children, would you consider this to be acceptable?

Consider the fact that the next day Kadaffi might kill hundreds more of innocent civilians (or not, who knows).

With respect,
Eliad.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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What I find even more regrettable is that there are enough crazy people who are agreed with them and give them star . this world is pathetic ...


There are some who are pushing an agenda. The military industrial complex needs to be ever present to influence public opinion and justify the enormous amounts of money and resources that it consumes. It must continue to grow unimpeded and it appeals to subjects who are enchanted with its weaponry and technology. They steadily coerce such subjects into a yearning desire to behold these fantastic technologies utilized on targets that the complex tells them are deserving of it as it doses its subjects with ever present hatred to maintain the subjects health.

There are some who are so immersed in the system that has been established for them that they need to maintain their own reality and cling to what they are being told in the media. They know if they begin to logically break down and decipher some of the events that are going on, their whole reality will crumble as it is being maintained by insatiable dogmas attached to illogical myths that convince them that this very power is the source of all things that are good. Upheld by vague prophetic overtones that seem to be materializing, they are further convinced that if they allow themselves to scrutinize the validity of these epics and legends that their current and future blessings that were promised to them will be lost. So they are desperately maintained at all costs.

There are more types that I believe I have come across but right now, I have to split for a little while. Thank you for the reply pitchdragon. I do appreciate it.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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blood for land, blood for oil, blood for money, blood for religion, bood for power
how many liters of blood those people will still need ? ok people are afraid to lose the grip but i rather preffer to face the reality then having blood in my hand of innocent people .
People don't get it but if we say"we are ok with all this war around the world" we are the one from our sofa who pull the trigger we have the power to stop it .

thank you for your reply ...



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Eliad
What if they had gotten Kadaffi? Isn't hitting the school a risk worth taking?

No. AFAIK, assassinating foreign leaders is against your (American) law. Quite aside from the fact that it's immoral.



Originally posted by EliadWould you have risked the lives of 30 children with autism for a chance to prevent countless more deaths, or would you have aborted the operation?


Eliad.

Prevent countless more deaths, how? I suppose you are one of the drones who believes whatever the MSM tells him, and believes Ghaddafi is the new Saddam/Hitler/Napoleon whatever...
The answer is absolutely not! Killing children can never be right, even if they do have a disability and therefore in the eyes of many (obviously not all!) are 'useless eaters'.. What if one of those children was your child? Would you shrug at her death, because it maybe would have helped the world's policeman kill a bad guy?
How revoltingly disgustingly amoral your post is!



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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"assassinating foreign leaders is against your (American) law."

since when did they follow laws they create?



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by Vicky32

Originally posted by Eliad
What if they had gotten Kadaffi? Isn't hitting the school a risk worth taking?

No. AFAIK, assassinating foreign leaders is against your (American) law. Quite aside from the fact that it's immoral.



Originally posted by EliadWould you have risked the lives of 30 children with autism for a chance to prevent countless more deaths, or would you have aborted the operation?


Eliad.

Prevent countless more deaths, how? I suppose you are one of the drones who believes whatever the MSM tells him, and believes Ghaddafi is the new Saddam/Hitler/Napoleon whatever...
The answer is absolutely not! Killing children can never be right, even if they do have a disability and therefore in the eyes of many (obviously not all!) are 'useless eaters'.. What if one of those children was your child? Would you shrug at her death, because it maybe would have helped the world's policeman kill a bad guy?
How revoltingly disgustingly amoral your post is!



Ageed Vicky32.
I am disgusted too. Killing children for freedom is got to be the weakest thing a Human could do.
But judging from Eliad comments ...... he would fit in well with hitler and stalin or even Israels way of thinking.

And maybe Eliad would have condoned the Killing of President Bush Jr on Sept 11, as he was hiding in a school too. And killing him would have prevented countless more deaths to.
Eliad needs to Wake up to the world out side of Israel and he might see the real world is out there and we think alittle different to him.
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