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Originally posted by micpsi
Unlike those whose mentality makes them accept anything the government shows them uncritically, at least birthers think for themselves.
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
Obama has spent over 2 million dollars to cover up details of his past.
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
I tend to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but it is curious as to why he did spend 2 mill to cover things up,
Originally posted by TheAmused
I have said this a million times and will still say it.
There is no way i would spend 1.7 million dollars for lawyer's if i didnt have anything to hide.
Originally posted by Sky watcher
The simple FACT that this fraud of a President spent millions to keep anyone from getting hands on his real info should prove,
Originally posted by phantomjack
So why would one spend millions hiding something as "insignificant" as proof of birth or college grades/education?
Originally posted by mickdundee23
They are obviously hiding something. Why spend $millions to hide it. Just release and I and millions of others will eat crow.
Originally posted by Skippy1138
Yet Obama has spent thousands of dollars to prevent people from looking into his birth, his college years, on and on and on...
WHY?
Originally posted by Moodle
thanks for that wtfathon. obama pays millions to hide his background, what's that all about?
Anyone that disagrees with your kook theory must be a liberal, huh? Why do I use the Wong Kim Ark case? Because it’s the law. It’s not a question of preference.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
You lib supporters always uee the Wong Kim case.
Your post tells me that your argument rests on your personal feelings and your opinion of what the Framers’ intention was, all of them completely inconsequential to the question of what the law is.
What does that tell you?
Originally posted by General.Lee
reply to post by LosLobos
Well Einstein, it wouldn't matter if it were a country or not, the point is, it ISN'T the United States. Doesn't that make any sense you you? Would you like me to draw you a picture with crayons? How about sidewalk chalk? Something you can relate to.
Originally posted by Gixxr1rider
Aloha ATSers
Im new just signed up today and give my 2 cents on this issue. To be a Natural Born Citizen it requires 2 US Citizen parents and child born on US Soil and heres why. What if OBL or any other non us citizen father gets an american girl pregant and that child born in ohio could that child become president? Where would that child loyality be with the terrorist dad or the US? Thats why the it takes 2 citizen parents no conflict in alegiance. Read what john jay wrote to GW and what john bingham who is the father of the 14th add. on the house floor around 1862 or 1866.
Originally posted by dizzie_lizzie79
its amazing how many people don't think the government officials wouldn't do anything to cover their own A**es!
I don't know what to believe myself...but there is definitely something not right with him! I am a great judge of character and man...something about that look in his eye and the way he carries himself....so...anyway...if he isn't, get him out! If he is...vote him out...thats the way i see it!
Originally posted by aptness
And nowhere in the Constitution is the requirement having two citizen parents.
Originally posted by bsbray11
You see the word "Constitution"?
Yes, that is a "binding resolution." It's the freaking Constitution.
McCain’s birth wasn’t investigated.
No one is saying this is a law that was invented when McCain's birth was investigated.
Originally posted by vjr1113
reply to post by Gixxr1rider
you subtle racism is disturbing
but im sure your not racist right?
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
I was just sitting here wondering what the donkeys would do if someone like Arnold Schwarzenegger ran for president and produced birth certificates that said he was born in Florida. I wonder how angry they'd get for being called names like "birthers" for not accepting the obvious truth, right there in black & white.
As long as I live, I will never forget that day 21 years ago when I raised my hand and took the oath of citizenship. Do you know how proud I was? I was so proud that I walked around with an American flag around my shoulders all day long.
As you know, I'm an immigrant. I came over here as an immigrant, and what gave me the opportunities, what made me to be here today, is the open arms of Americans. I have been received. I have been adopted by America.
I am a big believer in education, because when I grew up in Austria - when I grew up in Austria I had a great education. I had great teachers.
Originally posted by Aisling
Don't look at the bc, you'll never see the real one anyway. Just look at two things, that to me speak louder than anything, his grandmother's recollection of where her grandson was born and how quickly she was corrected and hushed about it. AND the money that went into hiding it. If you are telling the truth you don't hide.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Well at least we are slowly getting somewhere.
The Constitution requires the President to be a "natural" citizen. You are correct, the Constitution does not define the term. However, the people who wrote it made it clear what definition they were using.
Made it clear where? Where are these views expressed? Any documents with the force of law?
Originally posted by bsbray11
You are correct, the Constitution does not define the term. However, the people who wrote it made it clear what definition they were using.
I didn’t say it was “nothing at all,” but it wasn’t an ‘investigation.’
Then what was all that "non-binding resolution" stuff in regards to? Nothing at all?
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by Aisling
Don't look at the bc, you'll never see the real one anyway. Just look at two things, that to me speak louder than anything, his grandmother's recollection of where her grandson was born and how quickly she was corrected and hushed about it. AND the money that went into hiding it. If you are telling the truth you don't hide.
Funny because I find it far more interesting to look at people that repeat obvious lies like the two you just did instead of offering up legitimate criticisms of how that man is doing as president. I find it far more telling that threads about his performane as president seem all but non-existant but posters repeating lies about money spent and grandma abound.