reply to post by userid1
Perhaps you've noticed that it doesn't work with birthers.
Not at all. I know from many years of experience that if one wishes to successfully make their own case heard by the majority and, specifically,
critical thinkers (and especially
the [perhaps overly] conspiratorial minded), one must make more than the usual effort to not
debased tactics as 'derisive labelling' and crude attempts at literary superciliousness.
Tact and diplomacy
will win more followers than ridicule ever will.
Such childish attitude; you should be ashamed of yourselves if you're not at least getting paid to use such terminology towards those who
and openly question those who are well known and documented to have lied to the people on numerous occasions
, about far more
serious subjects, no less!
There is no dishonour in making an error of judgement (contrary to apparent modern ideals), if that is what you think those who see conspiracy in this
have fallen foul to, so you should treat such people with the respect and dignity you would like others to treat you with, should you ever be wrong in
your own assumptions sometime, or fall prey to any campain of political misinformation yourself.
All I see here, are a few individuals seemingly obsessed with their own self-esteem issues (to warrant their attitude or choice of employment) which
entails attacking others for wishing to investigate such matters, without bringing forth any evidence to bolster the facts themselves, save for
avoiding the issues at hand to draw the discussion towards topics they can more easily control. Again, a well known tactic of the shill.
they will deny any proof provided
Considering professional journalists
are experiencing difficulty in discerning the truth of this matter also, I shall not be holding my breath
for the definitive evidence (which should be so very easy to produce, should it not?) to prove the so-called "birthers"
But, I'm certainly not one to deny the truth to appease my ego, so please feel genuinely welcome to offer me this proof you mentioned. I'm not that
concerned either way, but seeing as you've spoken of it, I feel it only necessary you should provide it succinctly for all to be made aware of.
If indeed, it shows the truth of the matter, then it looks like so far it would be down to me alone to provide the tactfulness and respect to impart
it to those who feel something is amiss here.
I'm impartial, in so much as not only am I not a citizen of the US, I truly couldn't
care less where he was born, for as others have pointed
out in so many sentences, "actions speak louder than words [or birth certificates]".
There are more than just your 'average joe's' with a little education under their belts, who are also finding things "not right" in all of this, so
unless those professionals come up with the truth (again, why was this not put to rest the moment it arose?), or someone can direct me to their
evidence, then all I see here are shills, whether paid or self-employed, attempting to derail any online investigations related to this topic by way
of deliberate goading and derision.
R.I.P, mature debate...you are sorely missed, my eloquent bedfellow.
Editing in lieu of my removed post:
for maintaining a sense of decorum in your replies to the discourteous dissidents - it seems I failed in that task on my last
Additionally, my apologies to you Sinnthia, if I caused you to feel hurt by my apparent caustic remarks regarding your manner of conduct on this
thread. Perhaps the saying is true though...it can hurt more than physical pain!
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