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Shed a Tear: The Age of Broadband Caps Begins Monday

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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by kykweer
reply to post by Beast Of Gevaudan
 


Don't bother with that idiot troll.


YES because im an idiot troll because I dont AGREE with everything someone says. Nice.

Today its a cap tomorrow they shut it down completely. Its little by little everytime something like this happens and slowly but surely people accept it. If you dont understand this by now, you truley are either stupid or blind.

Also worried about whos running my country? Its the same people that run your queen. You're just stuck with the middleman (or woman in this case).


Why do I even bother anymore. You know this is exactly why these people are winning. Someone says one thing about another's country or race and all logic goes out the window. So easily divided.
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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 07:33 AM
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I respect that you may have your own opinion... But your victim mentality is the joke...

So what if u can only dl 250gb a month? Hell 20gb should be enough for a single person. Internet won't get slower but to expand it isp need more money. Its so funny that some people make this a big dealn but "they" wanna control what you download illegally...



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by kykweer
So what if u can only dl 250gb a month? Hell 20gb should be enough for a single person.

That's true, and the real information does not need broadband to be spread.

I think people worried about losing the ability of spreading information should start thinking about the best method to do that. There's no need to post videos in which we cannot see anything useful, just write that information on the sites that you know are the best for that.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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So wait, how are we supposed to know how close we are to the bandwidth limit? I haven't received a letter in the mail, nor have I gotten a CD to install to show if I'm going over the limit or not. Is it supposed to be a guessing game?



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 09:41 AM
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reply to post by SonicInfinity
 


When I had limited downloads my ISP provided a counter that, although not real-time (I think it was updated daily) was good enough to get an idea.

As it was not accurate enough I got a meter that showed all my traffic, uploads and downloads, so I guess there are some of those still available.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Today its a cap tomorrow they shut it down completely. Its little by little everytime something like this happens and slowly but surely people accept it. If you dont understand this by now, you truley are either stupid or blind.


You're being a little dramatic. More censorship perhaps. partically regarding access to porn, but shutting it down completely? I don't think so.




Also worried about whos running my country? Its the same people that run your queen. You're just stuck with the middleman (or woman in this case).


WTF? So why even bring up the Queen then? When she's just the middle woman as you put it, to the same people that run your country?! How does Australia coming under the Queen translate to us having less freedoms than the US?



Why do I even bother anymore. You know this is exactly why these people are winning. Someone says one thing about another's country or race and all logic goes out the window. So easily divided.



The logic went out the window when you stated that your country was a "free nation" and mine wasn't when they're basically run by the same people.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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The beginning of the end........Guess what will come to save the day when all ISP charges are rampant.
Anyone?


Internet 2


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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Google

For software to monitor downloads and uploads, its pretty easy.

It'll be like 10mb won't really break the bank to download it...

I use DU meter.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by kykweer
I use DU meter.
That's the one I used, I couldn't remember its name.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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Living in the UK as I do I am with British Telecommunications Limited who not only provide me my telephone line, but also are my Internet Service Provider. BT operate a three tier system composed of OPTIONS one and two and three. I am with option three which is allowing me unlimited up-load and down-load. The other two options are restricted with limitations. For some users it is financially beneficial to buy the options that are restricted with limitations because their usage is such that they will never need the unlimited option three. I started out in option one but after being over the limit for several months in succession I decided to upgrade to option three. Now I can use the internet without having the fear of being surcharged.

SHIMONO

AVE RAEGINA CAELINA LA DEUS NOSTRA CAELI LA VERA DEUS



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by kykweer
reply to post by AndrewJay
 


I respect that you may have your own opinion... But your victim mentality is the joke...

So what if u can only dl 250gb a month? Hell 20gb should be enough for a single person. Internet won't get slower but to expand it isp need more money. Its so funny that some people make this a big dealn but "they" wanna control what you download illegally...


Might be enough for you, not enough for me.

Your acting like ISPs are losing money - they are making a ton of cash. As to the requirement of capitol to expand the network, cry me a river, its called investment. Also, many of the large ISPs use government funding to expand these networks, which comes from my tax dollars.


edit:Rogers provides the information of your cap limit.
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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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We have this up in Canada too but we also have great alternatives! The big companies wanted to screw over the alternative cheap high-speed internet providers so we started a petition. We got over 500,000 votes and they stopped the screwing over of the smaller companies.

All you need is alternative companies that WILL provide cheaper internet.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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I've been on a cap for over half a year. Comcast gives out 250GB BW per month. I don't care who you are, if you go over 250GB of bandwidth per month as a normal internet home user, our obviously a downloading pirate.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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Actually they have to upgrade their router in their hardware headquarter to accommodate the speed and the amount of data they have to handle. It costs them more at least in the initial stage to accommodate the increased amount of data traffic. They can have more customers at first and the speed will slow down and they will lose some of the existing customers to the competitors. I'm not working for AT&T.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by MidnightTide

Originally posted by kykweer
reply to post by AndrewJay
 


I respect that you may have your own opinion... But your victim mentality is the joke...

So what if u can only dl 250gb a month? Hell 20gb should be enough for a single person. Internet won't get slower but to expand it isp need more money. Its so funny that some people make this a big dealn but "they" wanna control what you download illegally...


Might be enough for you, not enough for me.

Your acting like ISPs are losing money - they are making a ton of cash. As to the requirement of capitol to expand the network, cry me a river, its called investment. Also, many of the large ISPs use government funding to expand these networks, which comes from my tax dollars.


edit:Rogers provides the information of your cap limit.
edit on 1-5-2011 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)


Cry me a river exactly, if you download more than 20gb a month for 12 months a year you really need to priorities. And so what if your ISP wants to make money, its a business and someone has to do it, if everything was free we would still be in the middle ages.

In my country, south africa we started out with capped internet of 2gb a month and then you were already taken to the cleaners as we have only 2 suppliers of internet in the country and a limited bandwidth, so in other words too many users on the network slows the speed. Only in the last 2 years has internet become uncapped, but then if u go over a limit it gets throttled severely and this limit will be about 20gb. And for uncapped, unshaped, unthrottles internet (what you have all the time) you will still pay $100-$200 easily.

What I'm saying is, you still got so much competition by companies in america who want you as a client, internet will always be made an attractive an cheap option.

Anyway... 250gb of porn is insane for one person, why do u need more than 20gb, what do u need it for?



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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capping the internet use is wrong its limiting innovation and entrepeneurs for doing the new things which will create new jobs and technologies.

caps are the cause we the people will have to be in economic down turn for a few years more.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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This really isn't surprising.

Netflix use is over 20% of the bandwidth usage at night now and growing fast as they increase subscribers and online content. Bottom line is Netflix is pushing the cost onto the ISP's by forcing them to beef up their networks. Netflix's entire business model depends on this ability to shift costs onto the ISP's without that they are toast - and they know it. They even said so in a presentation they released on the companies competitive challenges for the future. If the cable companies were smart - since they also are almost all broadband providers they would set up their own streaming service and block Netflix, or at least increase the cap on their own service - they absolutely have the tools to beat Netflix if they want to. Problem is they don't want to interfere with their old cable business - but it is doomed, soon enough they will realize this. Hint if you have Netflix stock, you should sell.

The ISP's only have a couple options block Netflix, raise prices, or cap. Capping makes the most business sense, because once this is started all ISP's will cap as they see the problem is only going to get worse.

Lets face it consumers in most markets have only a few options for broadband and that is not about to change, as a matter of fact consolidation of the wireless and cable providers is giving consumers fewer and fewer choices.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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I stopped reading on page 3, but I wonder if this a piracy prevention thing. Think about this, if they are counting uploads, then who is gonna be willing to seed a torrent if it cost money to do so?



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by pcrobotwolf
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Isn't this only in Canada?


Recently we've seen threads and news articles about Canadian ISPs instituting data caps, but this now applies to one of the largest American telecom & internet companies.
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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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I highly doubt that, and besides they can kiss my ass at&t like seriously has anyone ever heard of these guys (sarcasm)



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