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Tornadoes in America -Lives Lost - Simple invention Could stop them - Spread the Word.

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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 04:16 AM
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Since America is being subjected to a tornado invasion with 300 dead and maybe $20 billion in damage already and more tornadoes forecast why don't the Americans use this invention to destroy cyclones,tornadoes and hurricanes?

It is simple cheap and effective.

www.theregister.co.uk...

www.wipo.int...


Given their nature, supersonic booms are potentially very efficient in hurricane/typhoon suppression, mitigation and/or elimination. This is because, while not wishing to be bound to any one theory, supersonic booms destabilize and/or destroy the two major dynamic features of a hurricane/typhoon - steady maximum rotational speed in the eye wall area and the pressure deficiency located at/near a hurricane's/typhoon's vertical axis of revolution. For example, two F-4 jet fighters flying at approximately Mach 1.5 are sufficient, in one embodiment, to suppress, mitigate and/or destroy a typical sized hurricane/typhoon. Of course, larger or smaller hurricanes/typhoons may necessitate the need for more or less supersonic capable aircraft.


Any answers why the American Air force is sitting on its hands doing nothing?



www.futurepundit.com...
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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 04:46 AM
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Depends if they can make a profit from it or not, everything revolves around money, maybe if they could hire it out for tornado season 100million a year per a state and you will incur no deaths or damage. Otherwise whats the point, they wouldnt do it just because its the right thing to do would they :/.

OR
Not sure what haarp can do but if they can make heaps of tornado's, kill lots of people then 'hey guys you know we could help you out for a fee to stop all these tornado's" anythings possible you know the government has no conscience.

It is a terrible shame all the lives that have been lost though. Was watching the footage on tv and those were some crazy tornados captured on film by the guys chasing them.
"my job involves trying to get as close to a tornado as possible and not die" guys have got some balls for sure lol.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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The 'profit' would be the number of lives saved.

That's the primary reason for everything..life.

There's also the hundreds of millions the insurance companies would save in payouts..that's more profit.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 09:04 AM
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It may be that the patent has never been shown to work. The link explains that they really don't know how long the jets would have to fly which makes me believe that they never tried it. This is just a theory and not yet an actual working process.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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A theory bears testing out. They could use various lengths of time, for instance and begin to measure the results. But they have to start somewhere if they care about their own citizens! There were under 200 tornadoes from which to chose, for heaven`s sake. People are being killed and towns destroyed. This is an abomination.

A doubting side of me wonders if this could be tied in with the North-South Corridor building and cutting off of towns. They want to restore wilderness and reduce the population. Haarp was touted as a weather modification tool, so did it initiate it? If not, then why was it not used to move the clouds away or something?



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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The theory has no basis. You could say that anything might break up tornadoes and demand a test. thre needs to be a reason to do the experiment.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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The basis was explained in the links and patent and theory.

Making fire has no basis.Yet primitive man did make fire.

Much of the most important Progress in history was made empirically.Do you know what Empirical means?

Is it really that difficult to fly a couple of old phantom aircraft and gather data on its effects on cyclones,tornadoes,etc.


It is not rocket science.

Your attitude reeks of sitting on your hands and praying to the Almighty Nothing in his Great Temple...


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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by beckybecky
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The basis was explained in the links and patent and theory.

Making fire has no basis.Yet primitive man did make fire.

Much of the most important Progress in history was made empirically.Do you know what Empirical means?

Is it really that difficult to fly a couple of old phantom aircraft and gather data on its effects on cyclones,tornadoes,etc.


It is not rocket science.

Your attitude reeks of sitting on your hands and praying to the Almighty Nothing in his Great Temple...


1. The patent is for hurricanes/typhoons, not tornadoes, and requires several supersonic aircraft flying counter to the direction of the hurricane. The idea is just a guess and there is no indication that it would work. It is up to the proposers to provide enough evidence to show that this method has merit.

2. Making fire was learned after natural fires were known. The methods were developed empirically but the evidence that fire existed was required to search for ways of making it.

3. Yes, I know what empirical means.

4. Remaining F-4 Phantom aircraft are very few and are probably not good practical choices. The inventors used shockwave data gathered decades ago from F-4's and assumed that F-4's were still abundant. F-4's are fast movers but swill fuel in afterburner. F-22 has supercruise capability and would be a better choice based on fuel consumption. If a Federal agency is shown data sufficient to fund the experiment, aircraft experts will select the appropriate aircraft.

5. Shock waves interacting with fluids are definitely rocket science.

6. Your comment on my supposed attitude is presumptuous.
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posted on May, 1 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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You are worried about fuel consumption in a supersonic plane when people ae dying and losing their homes from tornadoes?.

That shows small mindedness.

The F4 was just an an example.America has 50 different supersonic aircraft types.Some are used for anti-aircraft missiles tests.Who cares which planes is used.

A F4 can be remotely controlled to fly around as per patent round the tornadoes.An F4 is expendable and cheap.

Or a F22/F35 if it makes you look cool.

Anyway I am done with you as you clearly anti american and anti progress with your absurd demands.

The only way to test it is to do it.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by kaoticf8
reply to post by beckybecky
 


Depends if they can make a profit from it or not, everything revolves around money, maybe if they could hire it out for tornado season 100million a year per a state and you will incur no deaths or damage. Otherwise whats the point, they wouldnt do it just because its the right thing to do would they :/.

OR
Not sure what haarp can do but if they can make heaps of tornado's, kill lots of people then 'hey guys you know we could help you out for a fee to stop all these tornado's" anythings possible you know the government has no conscience.

It is a terrible shame all the lives that have been lost though. Was watching the footage on tv and those were some crazy tornados captured on film by the guys chasing them.
"my job involves trying to get as close to a tornado as possible and not die" guys have got some balls for sure lol.


Its called national defense and thats where money is deployed to protect and serve as that is what everyone on public purse is paid to do, and that means do the job you were put in to do and don't serve the non elected guys.

Katrina was crime, how it was done and handled.

By the way, this is all HAARP. These cylcones arent nature.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by beckybecky
reply to post by pteridine
 


You are worried about fuel consumption in a supersonic plane when people ae dying and losing their homes from tornadoes?.

That shows small mindedness.

The F4 was just an an example.America has 50 different supersonic aircraft types.Some are used for anti-aircraft missiles tests.Who cares which planes is used.

A F4 can be remotely controlled to fly around as per patent round the tornadoes.An F4 is expendable and cheap.

Or a F22/F35 if it makes you look cool.

Anyway I am done with you as you clearly anti american and anti progress with your absurd demands.

The only way to test it is to do it.


1. The F4 can't fly supersonic long enough without refueling and remote control drones can't refuel in flight.
2. Patents don't have to work and there is no evidence that this one will.
3. Read the article again. This is not for tornadoes; it is for hurricanes. Tornadoes are much smaller than hurricanes.
4. Your opinion of my "anti"-ness is worth about as much as your technical knowledge and reasoning ability. You have no clue what you are talking about, once again.
5.You are the one making absurd demands for tests without reason. The experimental imperative requires some rationale beyond somebody thinks it might work.



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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just make a supersonic siren?



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Um a hurricane/typhoon is way different than a tornado. A tornado forms with very little warning and strikes fast. There would rarely be enough time to get this invention to the exact spot.



posted on May, 2 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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nuke the darn things

no one will notice the fallout
now



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 02:14 AM
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it can be forecast.

supersonic planes fly.

in the air.


America has hundreds of plane bases.

only town/life threatening tornadoes need to be destroyed.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 02:27 AM
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They can form so fast there's either no time to launch a plane or for a plane to get to the area. Not to mention the cost of keeping a fleet in perpetual motion during turbulent weather.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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I'd say the main reason it hasn't been tried is the risk of pilot and aircraft loss. Though if someone can show conclusively that it should work, then the possibility of doing it will increase dramatically.

It's understandable that there's many losing their lives and lots of damage being done, but risking the increase of loss of life and more damage (pilot/copilot/anyone unlucky enough to get smacked by plane debris) is going to need some pretty strong evidence for success.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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They can use HAARP to alter the course or to weaken/strengthen any hurricanes or tornadoes, makes you wonder why there not bothering !



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Vanishr
They can use HAARP to alter the course or to weaken/strengthen any hurricanes or tornadoes, makes you wonder why there not bothering !

Because the idea of HAARP controlling weather is utterly ridiculous?



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by john_bmth
Because the idea of HAARP controlling weather is utterly ridiculous?


^^^^^ This ^^^^^

If they could, they would - simple as that. There would be zero reason for them not to since there is only the positive result and essentially zero negatives.

Trying to avoid disclosure wouldn't even be an issue because if HAARP could and did do it, then we'd never know that it did anything at all.

So essentially, it's proof that it can't, because it quite obviously didn't.



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