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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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"It centers around the fact that two twins born in the same Kapi’olani hospital listed on the Obama document the day after Obama was purportedly born actually have birth certificate numberslower than Obama. The number should be lower on the Obama certificate if he was born before the twins. As Corsi explains, “Susan Nordyke, the first twin, was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time Aug. 5, 1961, and was given certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961. “Gretchen Nordyke, the second twin, was born at 2:17 p.m. Hawaii time Aug. 5, 1961, and was given certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.” “Yet, according to the Certification of Live Birth displayed by FactCheck.org during the 2008 presidential campaign – and now according to the long-form birth certificate the White House released today – Barack Obama was given a higher certificate number than the Nordykes.” “Note, Obama was given certificate No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the Nordyke twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii Department of Health registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.”

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Just want to add, the Certification of Live Birth states: No. 151 – 1961 – 01064 while The Long Form No. 151 – 1961 – 1064, without the 0. Is this common?
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ALSO, please see

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AP 2004 article - "Kenyan-born Obama all set for senate"

See for yourself..

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:54 PM
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:59 PM
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nvm
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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 12:11 AM
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Thank you for that.
Off in search of a trash can to put it in.
Next.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 12:26 AM
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Dereks are you implying that anyone who questions anything about Obama is automatically racist... I have a problem with Obama being a radical socialist... Is being a socialist a "Black" thing???... Come on... Obama is half white... What about that!!!



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 12:29 AM
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Have Obama apologists exhausted every excuse and all they have left is the petty race card??

That's pretty sad really....



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 12:31 AM
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You posted this in another thread and this was my reply..

I'd like that to be the smoking gun but I don't think it is..
Just seems that they did the records of the previous births on the following Monday..

And Obama's BC may have been completed on the 8th but if you note the mothers signature it was started on the 7th when she dated it..
This is the same with the twins..

Maybe Mrs Obama wasn't available and the clerk simply addressed the other birth first..

What I do wonder is why Obama's BC states "Country & state" as Honolulu,Hawaii,
yet the twins BC states it as Honolulu,Oahu...

You would think they were typed up at the same time by the same clerk and the twins BC really is the incorrect one as neither Honolulu or Oahu are a state or a country..
To be honest, both BCs should have said Hawaii,USA.....



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by EternalThought
"It centers around the fact that two twins born in the same Kapi’olani hospital listed on the Obama document the day after Obama was purportedly born actually have birth certificate numberslower than Obama. The number should be lower on the Obama certificate if he was born before the twins.


Just what do you base that claim on? It has all been explained here before, there is no conspiracy.

Just accept that a black man is the legal POTUS and move on.






Post after post and thread after thread you play this race card over and over again. Either you really are this simple minded or they need to rewrite your script.



The funniest part is if you really do believe this you do more harm then good. Gotta love irony.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 12:38 AM
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Yes, how ya know I aint black myself?
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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by EternalThought
"It centers around the fact that two twins born in the same Kapi’olani hospital listed on the Obama document the day after Obama was purportedly born actually have birth certificate numberslower than Obama. The number should be lower on the Obama certificate if he was born before the twins.


Just what do you base that claim on? It has all been explained here before, there is no conspiracy.

Just accept that a black man is the legal POTUS and move on.


I am at work right now and I usually try not to reply to threads while I am at work, but this time I have to. I am not a "Birther". I personally feel that it is all a well orchestrated distraction. Any window of opportunity that there may have been to settle this issue has past and that window is now closed.

The reason for my posting now however has more to do with these unbelievable ignorant statements concerning Obama's race. All this "your just mad cause he is a Black Man" comments, quite frankly, are some of the most unintelligent, insulting and dismissive arguments I have ever witnessed. I am just sick of it. In essence, remarks like this suggest that if a person takes issue with a person of color, they are automatically racist. Their motives have nothing to do with the issue raised and everything to do with race. That is just ignorant. Is everyone who takes issue with the Queen a sexist? Of course not, and we do not hear that argument being made. However when it comes to Obama any issue one might have is automatically about race.

It is my feeling that the real racist are not the birthers, but those who continue to put race at the front of every single criticism of Obama.



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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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it's hawaii and we are human. hang loose. probably had piles of BC in different delivery rooms. not everyone is born in the same room or level ya know

not saying its real or forged. whateva, who cares, the whole gov is corrupt... FYI~



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 03:07 AM
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No sir.. it is YOU who is playing the race card as you ignore any point made and continuously dismiss any argument presented and automatically blame race.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 03:12 AM
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Originally posted by MrWendal
as you ignore any point made


The points birthers make are what are called lies, just made up to try and discredit Obama.


and continuously dismiss any argument presented


What valid arguments has any birther presented?

They are all made up, or just lies, like Obama was born in Kenya, his grandmother said he was, that he was a Indonesian citizen, that he couldnt travel to Pakistan on a USA passport, his parents were CIA, he is a alien etc etc etc.
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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by MrWendal
as you ignore any point made

The points birthers are what is called lies, just made up to try and discredit Obama.

and continuously dismiss any argument presented

What valid arguments has any birther presented?
They are all made up, or just lies, like Obama was born in Kenya, his grandmother said he was, that he was a Indonesian citizen, that he couldnt travel to Pakistan on a USA passport, his parents were CIA, he is a alien etc etc etc.


And yet you've called me a birther MANY times and I've said none of that..

You're simply full of crap and would rather insult than debate because you have little facts to back up your crap..



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by MrWendal
as you ignore any point made


The points birthers make are what are called lies, just made up to try and discredit Obama.


and continuously dismiss any argument presented


What valid arguments has any birther presented?

They are all made up, or just lies, like Obama was born in Kenya, his grandmother said he was, that he was a Indonesian citizen, that he couldnt travel to Pakistan on a USA passport, his parents were CIA, he is a alien etc etc etc.
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What are you going to do if Republicans nominate Allen West?



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 04:21 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
What are you going to do if Republicans nominate Allen West?


Probably still point out the crap a new lot of "birthers" make up. Why?



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 04:41 AM
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Originally posted by Th1nker
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Dereks are you implying that anyone who questions anything about Obama is automatically racist...


No, he's pointing out that this "HE'S NOT A CITIZEN LIKE ME!" bullcrap is based on racism. No matter what proof he provides, people such as yourself will never accept that a guy with a skin tone darker than your own can ever "really" be an American. See, the only reason this is even an issue is because his father is, you know, African. Now, despite every single piece of law running counter to the birther claims, the fact that he has a black daddy is what fries their noodles more than anything. I'm dead certain that even if he were 100% home-grown African-American with a family tree from the first Africans brought to Jamestown, you guys would be calling his ancestors "undocumented immigrants" or some other crazy crap to try to delegitimatize.


I have a problem with Obama being a radical socialist...


so does Obama, from the looks of it; his political stances are pretty disappointing to the left; he resembles Reagan more than anyone else, really. Just because the American Right has gone absolutely bat-guano crazy doesn't mean this dude is far left. We're not even sure if he's on our side of that center line, to be honest. Radical socialist? Do you even know what either of those words mean?


Is being a socialist a "Black" thing???...


Not necessarily; it's more of a "brown" thing in general. We tend to lack the self-destructive impulses of white voters, and for the most part our cultures don't regard money to be the measure of another human being's worth. So we're a little more prone towards socialism than your average White American, who tends to clutch himself in fear that someone might call him a "socialist" if he dares to think maybe his kids' school could use better funding or something.


Come on... Obama is half white... What about that!!!


What about it? It doesn't count for much in America. "Half white" doesn't get you into the country club unless you're going to be pushing a lawnmower.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
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Have Obama apologists exhausted every excuse and all they have left is the petty race card??

That's pretty sad really....


The irony of this statement is that the right is pushing this stupid thing so hard, because they know they have absolutely nothing else to critique. And calling it what it is isn't "playing the race card" - it's saying what it is.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 04:50 AM
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I'm sorry but from the title I'm picturing Obama dressed in that mammoth fur bikini ala Raquel Welch


I'm not going to bother reading the entire article since its Alex Jones the guy who has been claiming for ten plus years that any day now we're all going to be in internment camps in some sort of post-apocalyptic dystopia that's obviously never coming.


If early reaction is anything to go by, the deluge of editorials in outlets like the Washington Post and the New York Times claiming the birther movement is dead are completely off the mark


The Birther movement is dead because it was never alive, it never had anything but paranoid xenophobia and racism behind it. Oh and endless reinterpretations of binding legal documents by biased sources. Of course people emotionally invested in this nonsense aren't going to admit it's legitimate, that would be against their dogmatic belief that Barack Obama is some sort of sleeper-cell anti-Christ waiting to enforce George Orwell's darkest visions (aka Alex Jone's best wet dreams).




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