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Canadian Elections

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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I've heard that Harper wants to join the Canadian Military with the US's and allow the US to control the conjoined military aswell as the War and Military budget. I've also heard Ignatief wants to raise taxes to help pay for it which as we all know ends up flowing down from government to corporation and Jack Layton does too. However I can't find evidence of this. There are also alot of anti-Consevative,Liberal, and NDP but none against the green party. so what are your takes on this?




posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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It doesn't matter who we vote for or who gets elected. They will all do the same in the end. Election promises are never upheld. It is all a smoke show. We got a few idiots to vote for... yay for us



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Canadian politicians have done the same thing as so many other Countries. Bowed to the US because of their influence and money.

Guess that's coming to an end so maybe the ^%^I& Canadian Politicians will realize it's time to stand up for Canada instead of Obama.

Soon, the US will have no influence anywhere, even over their own people.

Wonder who's going to blink first?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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Harper said he would cut crime, he did, Harper said he would cut tax, he did(by 1%) Sad thing is Harper still wants to put our money towards prison, and all he talk about is the economy..They always get the main campaign done, harper keeps saying the same tired BS..Jack Layton wants health care to be improved, he has my vote
I hope he gets that done because its at the top of his to do list, which is usually the one that does get done, I just wish liberals and conservatives stop using Jack Laytons 4 year 65 billion dollar platform against him, considering Harper spent over a Billion dollars on the G20, wich only lasted a day or 2, Harper needs out hes nothing but a bully and the younger generations see that and are sick of his tired politics! and if you say its all the same in the end, wouldnt it be worth it to see a new face?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by ShellyBoo
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
 


Harper said he would cut crime, he did, Harper said he would cut tax, he did(by 1%) Sad thing is Harper still wants to put our money towards prison, and all he talk about is the economy..They always get the main campaign done, harper keeps saying the same tired BS..Jack Layton wants health care to be improved, he has my vote
I hope he gets that done because its at the top of his to do list, which is usually the one that does get done, I just wish liberals and conservatives stop using Jack Laytons 4 year 65 billion dollar platform against him, considering Harper spent over a Billion dollars on the G20, wich only lasted a day or 2, Harper needs out hes nothing but a bully and the younger generations see that and are sick of his tired politics! and if you say its all the same in the end, wouldnt it be worth it to see a new face?


I just watched a campaign commercial stating that Harper reduced the GST.

Really? When did this happen?

Was I asleep?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:27 PM
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When he first got elected how many years ago, he did that as soon as he got voted in...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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I'm going to vote NDP, although there's a bunch of things that I worry about that the NDP stand for. I'm all for raising pensions, and spending like crazy in health care and education, and giving tax cuts to small businesses, here's my question, whose gonna fund all of this? Corporations won't sit by idly and get taxed out of proportions, they'll leave, then we'll be stuck with no jobs what so ever. Then we'll enter an economic crash and who'll be to blame but socialist ideology, making neo-liberalism even more popular and option, and even more powerful than it is right now. Another thing I'm not down with is the candidates that run for the NDP, they're all inexperienced kids. I'm in university, but even I would be smarter than to, say, go on a vacation to Vegas during elections, or write on my facebook and twitter account that I love alcohol with pictures of parties that I attended. Or better yet, candidates that were communist party members in the past, great promotion campaign right there... From what I'm getting, the NDP are run by Inexperienced ignoramuses with no idea in hell as to what they're doing. Maybe it's just me, but I come from Quebec, anything is possible here. Hey, suppose university student candidates beat fresh high school graduates that the Bloc propose as candidates...

My platform would be different, don't tax corporations, save our damned jobs >_



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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I second that.

Harper did lower taxes when he got elected.
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by ShellyBoo
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When he first got elected how many years ago, he did that as soon as he got voted in...


Right, I remember that now. And since then...???

Everything is back to business as usual.

Just a political ploy and it worked.

Now we are worse off than ever.

GST went back up, HST across the board.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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I take offense at what Steve is doing to Canada. He makes the Progressive Conservatives look like the 'Good Old Days'. Time for him to go...but any way you cut it...get out and vote!



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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get out and vote!..
against



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by Radekus
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I second that.

Harper did lower taxes when he got elected.
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I think it was for 6 months. Have to check.

Just a ploy IMO



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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Where do you expect the government to make it's money from? They're not taxing corporations like they should be, and they privatized natural resource exploitation as well as support companies like Monsanto. Who else are they gonna tax but the population, watch for food shortages, monopolies like to play the market to make more money, expect Monsanto (and similar competitive farming corporations) to do the same. End effect? Everyday food prices will soar through the roof. it's already happening, noticed prices of food going up lately?
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:59 PM
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Pray tell, and I can't wait for this answer, how did Harper cut crime when none of his "tough on crime" bill ever got past the House of Commons? Exactly what did Harper do to cut crime?

Fact is, violent crime rates have been dropping for years. Harper doesn't want to acknowledge this, that's why he got rid of the full census. Who can argue with stats when there are none?

Now, please elaborate, how did Harper cut crime?

I just have to add this. Harper's Conservative government is in the process of negotiating "deep integration" with the US government. If Harper gets a majority, this deal gets passed. If he gets at least a minority, we can stop this deal. Read up on "deep integration" by the well-respected Ralph Nader, and then vote accordingly:

rabble.ca...




The designs of "deep integration" are reflected in your interest in purchasing F-35 fighter jets (already estimated at $29 billion by a Parliamentary office) that has no Canadian defence rationale but serves to help bail out the Pentagon's procurement mess with Lockheed-Martin's delayed, troubled and way over budget aircraft.



www.thestar.com...
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Once the U.S. government’s national security scaffolding surrounds Canada, many policy matters will become “national security” priorities. Canadian energy, water, the Canadian Arctic, anti-monopoly enforcement, and Canadian foreign investment policies could be subsumed under “national security” imperatives.

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:59 PM
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Who to vote for?

Conservatives?
Neoliberals that benefit the super rich, and US business.

Liberals?
Corrupt Neoliberals that benefit themselves (cause they steal money), the super rich, and US business.

Green party?
Crypto Neoliberals that benefit the super rich, and US business and use the word green
as a propaganda tool for environmentalist voter sway.

Bloc Quebecois?
Xenophobic racists, at least they have a notion of developing local businesses,
even if it's french related...

NDP?
Ran by inexperienced kids, immigrants and leftists with no realistic notion of economics...

Pick your choice... hahahaha.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Radekus
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Where do you expect the government to make it's money from? They're not taxing corporations like they should be, and they privatized natural resource exploitation as well as support companies like Monsanto. Who else are they gonna tax but the population, watch for food shortages, monopolies like to play the market to make more money, expect Monsanto (and similar competitive farming corporations) to do the same. End effect? Everyday food prices will soar through the roof. it's already happening, noticed prices of food going up lately?
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East Coast, Nova Scotia, Super Store, Yesterday:

6 chicken breasts 29.95

Yup, noticed.

I'm tired.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:11 PM
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Food wouldn't cost so much if we didn't allow food producing corporations to destroy farmers the way they do (example is court cases, Monsanto vs farmer cuz the farmer's crops got inseminated with Monsanto's, get this, patented genetic code, what a joke), not to mention that these same companies have grown too much out of proportions, we cannot allow anyone, or any group of people to own one source of food, it's like asking to starve to death. Reminds me of Communism, except it's not the government that starves you in the name of paranoia, it's the corporations in the name of profit. I very much support individual farmers as well as small farming businesses, but corporations? No way.

Would help if we finally upgraded our infrastructure, you know, the TransCanadian railway system? our trains still run on diesel when we have a ton of electricity. We should have Maglevs by now, and I thought we were so far advanced cause we're westerners, freakin' Japanese got better infrastructure than we do, and they got nuked twice to the stone age by our southern bully of a neighbor. Makes you think...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by Radekus
Who to vote for?

Conservatives?
Neoliberals that benefit the super rich, and US business.

Liberals?
Corrupt Neoliberals that benefit themselves (cause they steal money), the super rich, and US business.

Green party?
Crypto Neoliberals that benefit the super rich, and US business and use the word green
as a propaganda tool for environmentalist voter sway.

Bloc Quebecois?
Xenophobic racists, at least they have a notion of developing local businesses,
even if it's french related...

NDP?
Ran by inexperienced kids, immigrants and leftists with no realistic notion of economics...

Pick your choice... hahahaha.

What's important is that we have the choice...and each party would take us in a different direction. Laugh away...but others in this world are dying for the privilege of voting.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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those "inexperienced kids" could still have a chance to do better than the experienced old ones that havent done much good which is why every one is arguing about it, what have these older politics done? Bailed dealerships and given big tax cuts to big corporations?? Jack wants to tax the oil companies and banks the way they should be, thats where the money will come from, money is something to ploy, every country is technically in debt and if everyone in the world paid back there debt we'd all still be in the hole, so if we go further indebt for these plans to arise who gives a crap because no matter who is charge we are still going to be in the hole, especially if these worldwide natural disasters happen, we will donate to them putting ourselves into debt, I think someone new deserves a chance is all I am saying..1 doctor to 50 000 like Harper thinks is ok is a bucnh of BS..I live in a town that can't even get new docters and have been forced to 2 when we usaully have 6, because they are stuck in immigrations, and the ones that go to school in Canada go elsewhere because they make more money in other countries..I am not all knowing on everything in politics, but its pretty obvious that Harper doesnt even want to work with the opposition which doesnt look goo don his behalf because he walks around with a big head thinking he can intimidate everyone, hes very unffair and oesn't give 2 craps about the metis and aborginals, where as NDP does, nothing is ever going to change as long as Harper is in control, because hes nothing but a control freak...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:25 PM
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Totally agree...

Did you ever see this?

Monsanto invades Canada:

www.percyschmeiser.com...


"Percy Schmeiser was mad as hell, and decided he wasn't going to take it. Schmeiser has been growing canola -- the yellow-blossomed oilseed that used to be known as rapeseed -- for 40 years, and he knows his stuff. He's been experimenting, developing his own varieties, using his own seed and generally prospering with canola. reaping the benefits derived from growing an increasingly popular crop. So when Monsanto, the giant multinational agro-chemical company that is at the forefront of developing genetically modified foods, accused him of patent infringement and demanded restitution for its seeds, his pride was hurt. He chose to fight rather than roll over and take it."



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