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Originally posted by Lionhearte
reply to post by wearewatchingyouman
Well, based off your views, I think you're looking at it the wrong way. There's always (and always will be) a law of some kind, obviously we have a choice to obey them or not, but that isn't solely where free will resides. For example, I have the choice of eating an apple today, or eating a banana. It's my decision.
Oh, and for those of you who believe there is no such thing as free will (calling it pre-determined because God can see the future), it isn't like that at all. God KNOWS what is going to happen, but that doesn't mean he controls your actions, much less making it pre-determined.
Pretend you have a son, and you know he's going to be faced with a difficult decision, for example, to steal something or not to steal it. Now, you know for a fact (100%) what he is going to do, regardless of which action it is. Though, us humans may act and decide to prevent him from committing a theft, but that doesn't give him much free will - a perfect God, one who promised free will, would not interact. He'll be saddened by our poor choice, SHOULD we make that decision to steal (as all fathers probably would), but should we not choose poorly, well, that was our own free-choice, much reward is gained in doing what is right.
Originally posted by totalmoron
Free will to me is a farce and a non discussion. It should not be chased cause it only works if used properly.
And proper for one is a no no for another. If you say free will it means everything is allowed with no restrictions.
And i hope that is not what you want. The moment you make restrictions to free will, you terminate it.
So therefore, I think the right answer is; Free will should not and does not exist.
Free will is a non discussion.
isn't freedom to me... it's more like a dictatorship...
Originally posted by UberL33t
Your post, has added one more element to this equation. I am now going to incorporate this into the aforementioned and I suspect the results of which will be very productive in regards to spreading this energy to anyone that crosses my path. You Sir, win the wisest post reply of the day award.
I apologize there is no trophy other than the star I gave you, and the knowledge that you indeed touched another individual with your most informative post, again thank you and if I may say, you Sir, now have a place in my mind, for that, I can say that you as my fellow man, are loved for all intents and purposes