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Obama signs executive order putting sanctions on Syria

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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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The United States is not a Democracy, it is a Representative Republic, and there is a huge difference between the 2.

Also, check the link above for an overview of executive orders, what they are and how they work. It also gives you the locations in the US Constitution where EO foundations exist.




posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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Although there is no Constitutional provision or statute that explicitly permits Executive Orders, there is a vague grant of "executive power" given in Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution, and furthered by the declaration "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" made in Article II, Section 3, Clause 4, that has been construed as justification for the legal weight of Executive orders.


Sounds to me like an EO is technically against the constitution and they have found a minor loophole to get around it..



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
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The United States is not a Democracy, it is a Representative Republic, and there is a huge difference between the 2.

Also, check the link above for an overview of executive orders, what they are and how they work. It also gives you the locations in the US Constitution where EO foundations exist.


Most processes in Government are democratic..
Elections and the passing of laws..



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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Executive authority (IR Executive Orders) are in the Constitution in several places.

A democracy would be where the citizens directly vote to pass legislation and what not. At the FEderal level, Congress represents the people (house) and the states (senate).

No loopholes, EO's are legal, they dont violate seperation of powers because it only applies to the executive branch.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
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Executive authority (IR Executive Orders) are in the Constitution in several places.

A democracy would be where the citizens directly vote to pass legislation and what not. At the FEderal level, Congress represents the people (house) and the states (senate).

No loopholes, EO's are legal, they dont violate seperation of powers because it only applies to the executive branch.


What, you didn't read this?
It's from your link..

Although there is no Constitutional provision or statute that explicitly permits Executive Orders, there is a vague grant of "executive power"



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Yup...

in addition to

* Article II, Section 2, Clause 1
* Article II, Section 3, Clause 4

The President is not empowered to make law, however it is within his authority to interpret how laws will be enforced - up to and inculding treaties with foreign governments.

Again, this is pretty much a moot point because even though President Obama is the one who announced the sanctions, it was discussed with the appropriate cabinet secretaries as well as congressional leadership.

Congress is not the public face of the country, the President is, and as such, he makes those announcements.

Here is some more info talking about it -
Foreign Policy Roles of the President and Congress



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