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Feds Stop Amish From Selling Milk

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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Wonder if I am allowed to chop off my pinkie toes, Those things are about useless and just gets in my way, always stubbing it on the table causing me more trouble than it is worth, so can I just get rid of them. Should I set up an appointment with a judge to get permission.

Think of the money I would save in medical costs because I broke the stupid things.

edit on 29-4-2011 by Skewed because: (no reason given)




posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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I was born and raised on a farm and I drank milk straight from the farm for 18 years and I turned out fine. Store bought stuff tastes like crap and is watered down tremendously, not to mention it is severely overpriced. Such a shame this has happened.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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LMAO
I'm totally serious about this...
I just so happened to be drinking milk when I was reading this thread...
read your post, and yeah-
thoroughly cleaned out my sinuses with the moo-cow juice.

*And on topic- Yeah, this is ridiculous- on so many levels.
But not surprising.
And just another example showing that the TRUE supreme court,
is not the Federal one...
but Pennsylvania.

DAMN THE MAN!!!



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by moogins


Best not breast feed then. They will break down your door with a tank.



I'm crying I'm laughing so hard



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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this is due to the codex alimentarius regulations.

people you are not even allowed to collect rainwater anymore...

all hail this brave new world unfolding.


 
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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between this post and the overall theme of the thread...

I'M IN THE YARD...
NOW WHERE THE HELL IS MY MILKSHAKE?!?!

(for those who don't know the reference- it's to the song "Milkshake" by Kelis)
lol



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Wait till you see what they have in mind for women who breast feed
oh wait...
my bad,
thats the TSA



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
Whether you like it or not, there are standards when it comes to selling food...


The people buying it are adults they should have a choice weather to assume the risk or not.

I agree with the prior posters 'This is about control not safety'



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:21 AM
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Alright....
I have to do it.....

THE TWO COWS ANALOGY...


ANARCHO-COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.

COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both cows. The government sells the milk in government stores. You can't afford the milk. You wither away.

COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The state takes both, and gives you a little milk ... once.

COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both and gives you spoiled milk.

COMMUNISM - CAMBODIAN: You have two cows. The government takes both and shoots you.

COMMUNISM - CAMBODIAN: You have two cows. The government sends a teenager in a red bandana to shoot them, then he shoots you.

COMMUNISM - MODERN CHINESE: You don't have any cows. The government sets up a joint venture with McDonald's.

COMMUNISM - CHINESE: You have two cows. You have 300 people milking them. You claim full employment, high bovine productivity, and arrest the newsman who reported the numbers.

COMMUNISM - CHINESE: You have two cows. You take care of them. The government takes all the milk, but you are encouraged to steal some of it back (before someone else does).

COMMUNISM - MAO: You have two pigs. The government launches a campaign to convince you to donate them "voluntarily" to provide meat for workers in the city. The government then declares that people don't need pigs to make pork. Quoting the correct phrases from your little red book, you and your neighbors try to create pork from sheer willpower. Your local party leader reports that you have exceeded all expectations. Your neighbors starve.

COMMUNISM -- MAO: You have two bulls. Several people are killed while attempting to milk them.

COMMUNISM -- CASTRO: Fidel Castro has two cows. They are F1's, a cross between the Cebu cow and the Holstein cow. Only one cow, "White Udder," works. When she dies she is stuffed and placed in a museum by Castro, "The Dictator of the Cows," where "future generations could admire her magnificent udders." You have not seen cow milk since 1985.

COMMUNISM -- CUBAN: You have two cows. Fidel tells you some undercover CIA agents have infected all of the cows in your region with a foreign disease that kills the cows. You and your family become malnourished. It begins to occur to you that Fidel doesn't know what he is talking about.

COMMUNISM -- CUBAN: You no longer have any cows. They sailed to Miami. You still have no milk - but you do have Fidel.

COMMUNISM -- "PURE": You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

COMMUNISM -- "PURE": You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk. Well, maybe the local bully gets more, or a few neighbors band together to kill you so that there is more milk for everyone else.

COMMUNISM - IDEALIZED: You have two cows. The government takes them both and provides you with milk.

COMMUNISM -- RUSSIAN: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk. Then the government sends you to prison.

COMMUNISM - RUSSIAN: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk. You steal back as much milk as you can and sell it on the black market.

COMMUNISM - RUSSIAN: You have two cows. You count them and learn you have five cows. You have some more vodka. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You count them again and learn you have 12 cows. You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka. You produce your 10th, 5-year plan in the last 3 months. The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have.

COMMUNISM - RUSSIAN: You have two cows. You count them and learn you have five cows. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You count them again and learn you have 12 cows. You stop counting cows, open another bottle of vodka, and instead decide to focus on how many apples you are holding in your hands.

COMMUNISM - REALITY: You share two cows with your neighbors. You and your neighbors bicker about who has the most "ability" and who has the most "need". Meanwhile, no one works, no one gets any milk, and the cows drop dead of starvation.

COMMUNISM - BUREAUCRATIC: You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides you with milk. You wait in line for hours to get it. It is expensive and sour.

COMMUNISM - STALIN: You have two cows. You are shot as a counter-revolutionary. The cows are put in the Gulag.The milk? What milk? Who are you, and why are you asking about milk, Comrade?

COMMUNISM - LENIN: You have two cows. You are shot as a counter-revolutionary. The cows are also shot as counter- revolutionary. The Proletariat gets the milk, but refuses to drink such petit bourgeois liquids.

CONSERVATIVISM: You have two cows. You freeze the milk and embalm the cows.

CHRISTIAN-DEMOCRATISM: You have two cows. You keep one and give one to your neighbor. Then you covet it.

DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. A vote is held, and the cows win.

DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. They outvote you 2-1 to ban all meat and dairy products. You go bankrupt.

DEMOCRACY -- AMERICAN: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk and then blame Japan while border guards beat up Mexicans sneaking into the country. People are outraged for a week or so and then go back to televised sports where there's no violence.

DEMOCRACY -- AMERICAN (a republic): You have two cows. The government exercises those powers delegated to it by the people, who are sovereign. The majority does not rule because the people and their representatives (elected, appointed and employed) are constrained by various checks and balances, including the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the three co-equal branches of government, and the 50 state republics (see, e.g., Article IV, section 4). So what the government does with your cows and with the milk from those cows depends on the interaction between the people and the checks and balances mentioned above.

DEMOCRACY - FLORIDA: You have a black cow and a brown cow. Everyone votes for the best looking one. Some of the people who like the brown one best vote for the black one. Some people vote for both. Some people vote for neither. Some people can't figure out how to vote at all. Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which is the best looking one.

DEMOCRACY - AMERICAN: The government promises to give you two cows if you vote for it. After the election, the President is impeached for speculating in cow futures. The press dubs the affair "Cowgate."
DEMOCRACY - AUSTRALIAN: You have two cows. The government nationalizes your herd to control the price of milk and level the playing field for consumers. Each cow has a calf and they grow into cows. The milkers union stage an industrial action (strike) to protest the increase in the number of milk cows. A new party comes to power and the economic rationalists privatize your herd to control the price of milk and level the playing field for producers. The government orders the slaughter of two cows to cut production and control the price of milk.You throw a huge beef barbie (barbecue), with XXXX (how Australians spell beer), invite the milkers union, and give a speech espousing the merits of a level playing field. You still have two cows.

DEMOCRACY -- BRITISH: You have two cows. You feed them sheep's brains and they go mad. The government doesn't do anything.

DEMOCRACY -- REPRESENTATIVE: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

DEMOCRACY - PARLIAMENTARY: You have two cows. Politicians decide who gets the milk.

FASCISM: You have two cows. You give the milk to the government and the government sells it.

FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes one away and presses it into military service.

FASCISM - CORPORATE: You have two cows. The State takes both; their cronies form a corporation, hire you to take care of the cows and sell you the milk.

FASCISM: You have two cows. The government seizes both and sells you the milk. You join the underground and start a campaign of sabotage.

LIBERALISM: You have two cows. You give away one cow and get the government to give you a new cow. Then you give them both away.

LIBERTARIANISM: Go away. What I do with my cows is none of your business.

LIBERTARIANISM: You have two cows. One has actually read the constitution, believes in it, and has some really good ideas about government. The cow runs for office, and while most people agree that the cow is the best candidate, nobody except the other cow votes for her because they think it would be "throwing their vote away."

NAZISM: You have two cows. You reengineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk which they milk themselves, and run a hundred miles an hour. Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year.

SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes one of them and gives it to your neighbor.

SOCIALISM -- BUREAUCRATIC: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and eggs as the regulations say you should need.

SOCIALISM - COOPERATIVE: You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor. You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his.

SOCIALISM - FRENCH: You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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Dang, there goes my idea for taking over the world with bacteria-ridden raw milk. Sigh.

Seriously, if you know the health of the cow, the conditions of it's living space and trust the cleanliness of the hands, teats, and container the milk is put into- raw milk is fine. And you only make cheese from raw milk! Ack! No more mozzerella!

The reason why the FDA made the rules in the first place is because of the big dairy farms. More chances of bad stuff happening - poop covered teats, etc.

Edited to add
ancer, your Two Cow Analogy is hilarious!
edit on 4/29/2011 by Lolliek because: ps added



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Lolliek
poop covered teats, etc.


There is a demand for every fettish.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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[color=deepskyblue]How sad is that?

Isn't there any actual crime out there for them to investigate??

Good grief.
edit on 29-4-2011 by daryllyn because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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I don't see what the problem is..
now all the milk is safely sterilized by radiation
which is nutritious and good for you...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by Romanian
I am so glad the governments are taking care of us, telling us what we are allowed to do with our own bodies that apparently we do not fully own..


damn right, this is about ownership. Like I always say, if you don't have ownership of your body, then who does? Do I need an allodial title for my body?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Can we say 'enough' yet? A year of taxpayer dollars to stop something that has taken place for thousands of years. Why does the FDA care? Our government no longer operates in the interest of the people.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by SmokeandShadow

Originally posted by Romanian
I am so glad the governments are taking care of us, telling us what we are allowed to do with our own bodies that apparently we do not fully own..


damn right, this is about ownership. Like I always say, if you don't have ownership of your body, then who does? Do I need an allodial title for my body?


Yes, because all those overweight people are so able to control their bodies.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by Danbones
Wait till you see what they have in mind for women who breast feed
oh wait...
my bad,
thats the TSA



Even the TSA doesnt go that far...I have gone through many times with pumped breast milk. They wave some kind of wand over it. They did not confiscate the original source.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Oh good God



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by ltinycdancerg
reply to post by Vanna
 


between this post and the overall theme of the thread...

I'M IN THE YARD...
NOW WHERE THE HELL IS MY MILKSHAKE?!?!

(for those who don't know the reference- it's to the song "Milkshake" by Kelis)
lol



Source of any and all milkshakes have been taken by the feds, sorry



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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Every Coin Has Two Sides

On the one hand, people should be able to eat what they want, even if there is a slight risk of infection. This seems like it is a case of the feds working against entrepreneurialism and FOR big dairy.

It is not simply the case that the FDA guidelines for dairies are focused solely on heath. They seem purposefully designed to discourage small start-up business from going into the milk market. If you have ever worked in a commercial kitchen, you've seen the same thing. Most restaurants are NOT cleaner than mom's kitchen; they just have a laborious protocol in place that mom cannot mimic, and so she doesn't open her own restaurant. It's the same deal with milk.

On the other hand, pasteurization has helped end tuberculosis as a major health threat in the united states, and pasteurization contributed directly to that improvement.

The problem isn't the mom-and-pop farm. The problem comes when milk sits idle for longer and longer periods on its way to market. The transport has a tendency to "churn" it and make it go sour faster; requiring homogenization, which in turn requires pasteurization.

This is part of the larger "vaccination debate" (vaccinus is the disease that causes cowpox, which was eradicated by Pasteur when he invented the concept of vaccination.)

While vaccination has very limited value for any given individual, it benefits society as a whole by limiting the mass effect or "pandemic" of one pathogen sweeping through the population. In other words, one dairy that does not pasteurize is no big deal. But if several cease at once, the next thing you see is Tuberculosis in the milk-drinking population----just like in most developing nations.

Wikipedia article regarding "raw milk debate"

When my family acquires milk, it has not been specifically "pasteurized," but that is simply because it was going to be cooked when we got home anyway, and so there was no point in destroying any more long-chain lipids than required for the making of cheeses.
edit on 29-4-2011 by dr_strangecraft because: for cheesy comments.



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