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Assange: WikiLeaks Revelations Only Tip of Iceberg

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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by PsykoOps
 

He didnt stop the war


He did the best he can. It's not his fault that the world is so apathetic.



He didnt expose any wrong doing wiht Gitmo


So none of the revalations of gitmo are "wrong" in your book? Like hauling kids there without any reason?




He didnt end the Iraq war
He didnt end the Afghan war
He didnt bring down a major bank


Same response as the first one would suffice. What you expect him to do? Pick up M60 and go Rambo on them? If the truth about corruption and real reason for wars don't stop them then nothing will. Also the bank issue is still ongoing.



He claims he wants transparency, only to threaten to sue the Guardian because they had all the wiki files leaked to them, and assange threw a fit, saying he owned those files, and if they printed them he would suffer financial hardship.


He owns the publishing rights to them. You might wan't to check out what that means. Also WL doesn't run on air. Of course he is worried about the income so he can keep the servers running. You make it sound like he is filling his own pockets.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by PsykoOps
He did the best he can. It's not his fault that the world is so apathetic.


If by the best he can means make money off the leaks, then yes, we are in agreement. The world is not apathetic in the elast, I chalk it up to a vocal minority that doesnt know thier history, especially when they think its the most recent foreign policies that caused these issues.

Look up Pirates of the barbary coast, or ask a Marine about it..


Originally posted by PsykoOps
So none of the revalations of gitmo are "wrong" in your book? Like hauling kids there without any reason?


If you are going to play stickball in Brooklyn, you beter know the rules. Maybe the kids shouldnt have picked up a weapon to use against allied forces. Maybe the Taliban / Al Queida shouldnt use them as human shields. Also, just because you think its wrong, doesnt make it wrong. As of yet, there has been no violation of US law.

The Supreme Court rulings and Congress fixed those initials questions.
Also, its perfectly allowable under UN law / charter / agreements to hold enemy combatants / pows / spies / terrorists during a time of armed conflict. The notion these people must be charged with a crime is something anti war opposition dreamed up.

I refer you to history to support my argument, namely all the wars where people were taken captive. When the war on terror ends, we can repatriate these people to their countries. If the Taliban / Al Queida want to exchange some people from Gitmo for the safe return of the American they are holding, that is acceptable under UN treaty also.


Originally posted by PsykoOps
Same response as the first one would suffice. What you expect him to do? Pick up M60 and go Rambo on them? If the truth about corruption and real reason for wars don't stop them then nothing will. Also the bank issue is still ongoing.


Quit reading into it. He stated his release of documents would end the war because it would expose government / and military corruption / crimes. Turns out he decided to bury those files, with a few hundred thousand more. If he were intent on stopping the war, then dont throw the important information out with 9k tons of other usless info.


Originally posted by PsykoOps
He owns the publishing rights to them. You might wan't to check out what that means. Also WL doesn't run on air. Of course he is worried about the income so he can keep the servers running. You make it sound like he is filling his own pockets.


LOL thats a good one. He doesnt own those files, the US Government, by extension of the US people. He stole the documents, and now is ilegally distributing them. Again, for a person to claim he wants to change the world by exposing corruption and forcing transparency, its pretty hypocritical to turn around and do what pissed him off in the first place.

The files were leaked to the Guardian after Assange gave them the files. This freed them from the agreement with Assange. His own greedy response spoke volumes as to what his true intentions are = Money.

Assange has made a lot of promises, and has not followed through with any of them. What funnier is how he does exaclty what he accuses government of doing.

Yeah... apparently what the US Ambassador thinks of Sarkozy personally, is more important that exposing government wrong doing and corruption.

He is a fraud, a hypocrite, and to date a liar on several promises he made and failed to deliver on. Why does he do this you may ask? Because if he released the documents that showed wrong doing, he wouldnt have anything left to gain attention and donations. If you cant see that, then please go back and do a little more research on his interviews, promises, press conferences. You will see what I am talking about.



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