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Originally posted by gandhi
Did the guy above me say he hopes this comes to America? Obviously not thinking before speaking...
Yeah you have the crazy, or truly sincere people trying to make predictions. Even more trying to make money off it. But, that's the cost of the complexities of freedom. Don't trade it for the simplicity of rules and regulations, please.
"Those who trade freedom for security are both ignorant and deserve neither"
Originally posted by xavi1000
Finnaly fines for prophets and good law ..... just hit them in the pocket ...i hope this law will be implemented in US soon
Originally posted by xavi1000
reply to post by gandhi
What security ? Why are you mixing things ? This law is good ... We have science and scientists which is their job to warn us if Nibiru,Elenin, or some other crap that will put us in the danger. Or you think every scientist is goverment cover up agent.Nobody can predict exact time , location and strentgh of quakes till now ,especially not some blogger who thinks he is a God and scaring ordinary people and messing up with their lifes.Just hit them in the pocket .
What security ? Why are you mixing things ? This law is good ... We have science and scientists which is their job to warn us if Nibiru,Elenin, or some other crap that will put us in the danger. Or you think every scientist is goverment cover up agent.Nobody can predict exact time , location and strentgh of quakes till now ,especially not some blogger who thinks he is a God and scaring ordinary people and messing up with their lifes.Just hit them in the pocket .
So you defend shouting "fire" in the crowded room then - after all it's only everyone's personal decision to panic and run for the exits?
prediction [prɪˈdɪkʃən]
n
1. the act of predicting
2. something predicted; a forecast, prophecy, etc.
mis·chief (mschf)
n.
1. Behavior that causes discomfiture or annoyance in another: Shouting FIRE in a crowded room
2. An inclination or tendency to play pranks or cause embarrassment.
3. One that causes minor trouble or disturbance: The child was a mischief in school.
4. Damage, destruction, or injury caused by a specific person or thing: The broken window was the mischief of vandals.
5. The state or quality of being mischievous.
Originally posted by schuyler
And, of course, I never said that. You'd be hard pressed to prove anyone who started a thread here was looked at seriously in the first place. What I am saying is that if someone announces a prophecy and people suffer damage because of it, they can be held liable. I am NOT saying we ought to make another law against false prohecies. I AM saying if you do so, you can be held liable. Civil Court would be the way to do it.
Originally posted by schuyler
For example, if my spouse became enamored with your "teachings" and you predicted the end of the world, and as a result she killed herself, thus leaving me to raise the children alone, And, of course, your prophecy did not come true, then I have grounds to sue you This done all the time. It is not unusual.
Originally posted by schuyler
Or, if I'm not prone to court suits, I might just take you out, and that would be the basis of my defense.
Originally posted by schuyler
I see no reason whatsoever that you should not be held responsible for the results of your actions. That is just so basic as to be fundamental and certainly as self-evident as the 'pursuit of happiness.'
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by dalan.
Hey I thought the flame was appropriate for the question
So there are limits to free speech then, in your world?
How about if I ran into a room shouting "there's going to be a fire in 30 seconds - the boiler is going to blow up, you all have to get out NOW!!"
that's a prediction too.....
Just trying to gauge what your limits are....
Originally posted by dalan.
Instead of fining people, evaluate each incident uniquely.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by dalan.
Instead of fining people, evaluate each incident uniquely.
and then fine them??!!
The "prophet" is now being investigated for links to a company dealing in surplus shipping containers, with a view to figuring out whether fraud is involved......
www.bbc.co.uk...edit on 1-5-2011 by Aloysius the Gaul because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by prof7
Originally posted by xavi1000
i hope this law will be implemented in US soon
free speech a bad thing for you? What other rights would you like to remove also?
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by dalan.
So you defend shouting "fire" in the crowded room then - after all it's only everyone's personal decision to panic and run for the exits?