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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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Functionality of the Human Brain Compared to Functionality of Basic Computer Operation





Hello fellow ATS members. This topic that I am going to share with you has been discussed on ATS in a roundabout fashion throughout a multitude of different threads and forums. However, I would like to give my depiction of how I feel the operation of the two are comparable as far as both of their functionality is concerned, more so, the similarities as well as the differences.

To begin I would like to just give an overall description of the two and a brief description of their components and basic functions.

Brain:


...like millions of little computers all working together.



Human Brain - An organ of soft nervous tissue contained in the skull of vertebrates, functioning as the coordinating center of sensation and intellectual and nervous activity. It functions as the primary receiver, organizer and distributor of information for the body.



The brain is made of three main parts: the forebrain, midbrain, and hindbrain. The forebrain consists of the cerebrum, thalamus, and hypothalamus (part of the limbic system). The midbrain consists of the tectum and tegmentum. The hindbrain is made of the cerebellum, pons and medulla. Often the midbrain, pons, and medulla are referred to together as the brainstem.



The Cerebrum: The cerebrum or cortex is the largest part of the human brain, associated with higher brain function such as thought and action. The cerebral cortex is divided into four sections, called "lobes": the frontal lobe, parietal lobe, occipital lobe, and temporal lobe. Here is a visual representation of the cortex:





What do each of these lobes do?
• Frontal Lobe- associated with reasoning, planning, parts of speech, movement, emotions, and problem solving
• Parietal Lobe- associated with movement, orientation, recognition, perception of stimuli
• Occipital Lobe- associated with visual processing
• Temporal Lobe- associated with perception and recognition of auditory stimuli, memory, and speech



The Cerebellum: The cerebellum, or "little brain", is similar to the cerebrum in that it has two hemispheres and has a highly folded surface or cortex. This structure is associated with regulation and coordination of movement, posture, and balance. The cerebellum is assumed to be much older than the cerebrum, evolutionarily. What do I mean by this? In other words, animals which scientists assume to have evolved prior to humans, for example reptiles, do have developed cerebellums. However, reptiles do not have neocortex.



Limbic System: The limbic system, often referred to as the "emotional brain", is found buried within the cerebrum. Like the cerebellum, evolutionarily the structure is rather old. This system contains the thalamus, hypothalamus, amygdala, and hippocampus. Here is a visual representation of this system, from a midsagittal view of the human brain:





Brain Stem: Underneath the limbic system is the brain stem. This structure is responsible for basic vital life functions such as breathing, heartbeat, and blood pressure. Scientists say that this is the "simplest" part of human brains because animals' entire brains, such as reptiles (who appear early on the evolutionary scale) resemble our brain stem. Look at a good example of this here. The brain stem is made of the midbrain, pons, and medulla.


Computer:


COMPUTER - A machine that processes information and performs computations.


CPU - Central Processing Unit, or "brains" of the computer


Hard Drive - The main device that a computer uses to store information.


How Computers Work


Input: Information and programs are entered into the computer through Input devices such as the keyboard, disks, or through other computers via network connections or modems connected to the Internet. The input device also retrieves information off disks.
Output: Output Devices displays information on the screen (monitor) or the printer and sends information to other computers. They also display messages about what errors may have occurred and brings up message or dialog box asking for more information to be input. The output device also saves information on the disk for future use.

Processing: The CPU or central processing unit is sometimes called the Control Unit and directs the operation of the input and output devices. The Coprocessor or the Arithmetic-Logic Unit does arithmetic and comparisons. The memory or RAM temporarily stores information (files and programs) while you are using or working on them. The BIOS or basic input/output system controls the dialogue between the various devices.


So now that we have a general concept of how both operate I will begin my comparison of how I think the two relate in regards to their functionality. A brain is just a bio-computer...yes? Well this description put's it into more perspective.


IS THE BRAIN ONE BIG COMPUTER?

Let's look at the brain using a different model. Let's look at the brain as an orchestra. In an orchestra, you have different musical sections. There is a percussion section, a string section, a woodwind section, and so on. Each has its own job to do and must work closely with the other sections. When playing music, each section waits for the conductor. The conductor raises a baton and all the members of the orchestra begin playing at the same time playing on the same note. If the drum section hasn't been practicing, they don't play as well as the rest of the orchestra. The overall sound of the music seems "off" or plays poorly at certain times. This is a better model of how the brain works. We used to think of the brain as a big computer, but it's really like millions of little computers all working together.


So in essence, it is a network of a bunch of little computers responsible for oodles of connections and computations at any given point in time. A computer, is comprised of a binary system of ON & OFF, or more technically, a language comprised of a constant stream of 1's & 0's to generate the desired effect from a given user. The multitude and speed at which computers process this information is growing more every day.



Some may suggest that even comparing the two would be the same as comparing apples to oranges (for lack of a better comparison model). None the less, the overall make-up of components and their functionality in comparison are not too dissimilar in my opinion.

A person, uses their built in input devices, or one of 5 senses to generate some form of output. Albeit, our output device, or body, is a little more complex than your basic home computer. Be that as it may, the foundation of the functionality between the two relate on quite a few levels.

With this comparison, one can start to delve into creation and intelligent design as being very plausible. In that the human brain, and body, is an intricate network of systems that work in conjunction with one another via one central processing unit. This unit, is comprised itself of various other intricate units that together create a functional bio-mechanical and bio-computational apparatus a.k.a. a Human Being.



After some thought I decided to create this thread and submit it to the members of ATS to gain a perspective of how they feel "they do" or "do not" relate to being a living, breathing bio-mechanical computer. I am sure that there will be those that do not share my view of similar likeness to the two and I am grateful for those replies as well as any replies to this thread from people that do happen to share this same view.

I personally feel the computer and what knowledge we have of it currently will result in possibly many forms of advanced A.I. in our future. As we evolve, technological breakthroughs will surpass anything that we have thought of thus far. Which begs the question. Was our creator, just a very advanced computer designer and are we on our way to becoming designers ourselves? Perhaps that is the design, and how life is spread throughout the universe. Only when you reach a certain level, do you begin and understand the journey that is life in this Universe of ours. If so, we are surely in our infancy.



Computers are by no means flawless. They have bugs, comparable to genetic and mental abnormalities in humans. They are susceptible to viruses, as are humans. They are susceptible to malicious attacks, as are humans. They are user friendly in some cases and some cases not so much, as are humans.

The list goes on. So in retrospect, The comparison of the Human Brain and the Basic Computer, share enough similar qualities that it is not all that difficult for one to postulate that we may very well be programmed with an OS.

All this talk lately of Ascension, is more or less, no different than an OS upgrade. I am sure we've all heard the term Human 2.0 uttered on ATS if you have perused topics in relation to this subject. Perhaps that is what is occurring. Like with any update you would get with Windows, some get it sooner than others, some do not possess the OS that receives said update. Fantastical? Perhaps, but it does spark my imagination when I start comparing the similarities of humans to the computer world.

Well, that is my view and breakdown. It's now in your hands to discuss at your leisure as a group. My schedule as of late is very busy so please forgive me if I am unable to reply to everyone, but rest assured I will be watching this thread and do my best to be as active as I can in the discussion.

Thank you for taking time from your day to read and I hope you enjoyed the experience.


Respectfully,
UberL33t




posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:56 PM
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Very well done. I'm reminded of an article I read recently in which Americans were described as having terminal illness, meaning we are so completely addicted to our computer terminals that we can't even see what's going on around us. Ascension may be possible for some, but the collective consciousness of the masses is alternately descending.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:25 AM
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Cool thread UberL33t


I think it would be fair to compare the brain with a computer, basic function is the same. But there is one important thing that we must not forget.....

The user.

With our brain, the unconscious part indeed functions like a computer. Taking in all the information, processing it and delivering the result to the user. Now the user behind the screen might entertain the illusion that he produced the output by generating the input but the actual work was done by the computer. For the brain that user is the conscious mind, the self aware part of our brain that is entertaining the illusion that it is doing everything by its self,out of free will......

A computer can be separated from it's naive user, a brain can not. I think that's the biggest difference.

Peace



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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but the collective consciousness of the masses is alternately descending.


Now if you tell me it is seemingly running rampant, more so, I am seemingly becoming more & more aware of that decline, then I would wager to say that I am not the only one noticing the utter blatantness of not only an apparent descent of select people as well as an apparent ascension of select people lately?

Sad part is, I feel this overwhelming air of remorse for them, which gives me a chill when I think about it.

I think deep down I know why I feel this, but I don't feel it would be in their or my best interest to try to make them privy, as I truly don't feel they would understand at this venture in addition to I feel it may already be too late. Just me?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:35 AM
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Aha...but if you look at it this way....

Custom Coded OS's a.k.a. DNA ....therein lies the difference with each user so to speak. We all have the same operating system platform for the most part, however, we are all custom coded. As of yet, DNA is not all the way mapped. Which begs the question, is it in fact "Open Source" throughout the life giving Universe?

Interesting to at least consider I'd say.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:40 AM
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There is absolutely NO competition between a Human brain and a computer.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by UberL33t
reply to post by operation mindcrime
 

Custom Coded OS's a.k.a. DNA ....therein lies the difference with each user so to speak. We all have the same operating system platform for the most part, however, we are all custom coded.


We might even be working from the same platform (Carl Jung, Collective unconscious) and the custom coded part is the collection of conscious experiences.

Peace



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:06 AM
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There is absolutely NO competition between a Human brain and a computer.


Not at this venture....but 200 years from now, 500 years from now?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:07 AM
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There is a part of the brain in the prefrontal cortex that controls Executive Function.
Executive Function


Executive Function allows the brain to Override natural responses to certain stimuli/events. This helps humans make hard decisions and decide the best course of action when experiencing something new and unknown.

As far as I know, a computer or AI does not have any part of it which can override it's own programming. If an AI had something like this, it would allow itself to break Asimov's 3 laws of AI Robots...which in turn could have horrible effects upon humanity.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:14 AM
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This may be reaching....

Your internet browser is built to load certain things because you double click. So inadvertently you click something that is deemed malicious. Your anti-virus prog steps in and cancels the decision to run said malicious software. Not too indifferent as far as basic concept is concerned.

Granted it's a program preloaded with a malicious file database, but it does intervene in the decision to run said malicious file in a nutshell. Reaching? Perhaps, but an intervention in what would have otherwise been a detrimental decision in most cases.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:16 AM
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Not just you. I feel great compassion for people that I know I'll never reach. At the same time I see the beauty in it. I've been made aware that I'm not supposed to try to directly influence anyone. Part of me wants to fight that, though I know what will happen if I do. You just have to follow your path.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by operation mindcrime
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A computer can be separated from it's naive user, a brain can not. I think that's the biggest difference.


We naive users have the ability to take control of our unconscious mind. To change our beliefs and replace false negatives that hold us down with positives that work for us. Most people alive today may never realize that power within themselves. That distinction blurs the lines between human nature and conditioning.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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I find myself saying "tick-tock" a lot. It's closing in, whatever it is, if not already upon us, the beginning anyway. All I can really say to that is...Finally!!!



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by NE1911
We naive users have the ability to take control of our unconscious mind.


???......the conscious mind has the ability to take control of the unconscious mind???



Please explain.


Peace



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by operation mindcrime

Originally posted by NE1911
We naive users have the ability to take control of our unconscious mind.


???......the conscious mind has the ability to take control of the unconscious mind???



Please explain.


Peace


As I said I'm not supposed to directly influence. It's a dangerous thing. There is a middle ground which allows me to challenge beliefs with foreign perspectives. Not quite as dangerous, though there are consequences.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:50 AM
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I'll give you a good starting point, if you haven't already watched it or read the book, I suggest it. It should give you at least a baseline to run with. Absolutely re-vamped my whole approach to the way I see and conduct myself after I watched it. Eye opening to say the least, at least for me, take from it what you will, all it takes is believing.


The Secret

It is available to live stream on Netflix if you should happen to have an account, if not the first month is free last I knew



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by NE1911
As I said I'm not supposed to directly influence. It's a dangerous thing. There is a middle ground which allows me to challenge beliefs with foreign perspectives. Not quite as dangerous, though there are consequences.


I am not trying to start a discussion here, I am merely trying to understand your perspective but isn't a "believe" by definition a product, produced by the conscious mind, to accept the results presented to us by our unconscious mind which the conscious mind can not explain/understand??

What you are describing as "challenging believes with a foreign perspective" seems more like an alternative way of saying that you have the ability to switch between self perceived identities.

Peace



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by UberL33t
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This may be reaching....

Your internet browser is built to load certain things because you double click. So inadvertently you click something that is deemed malicious. Your anti-virus prog steps in and cancels the decision to run said malicious software. Not too indifferent as far as basic concept is concerned.

Granted it's a program preloaded with a malicious file database, but it does intervene in the decision to run said malicious file in a nutshell. Reaching? Perhaps, but an intervention in what would have otherwise been a detrimental decision in most cases.


In your example, the thing that is getting overridden is from an External source (malware you are browsing). What I referred to in my example of Executive Function is an Internal source being overridden by the brain internally.

If you want to find a better example of how a computer may perform different actions in similar situations with the ability to override the regular course of action, you'd have to look towards the team that programmed Deep Blue.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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Deep Blue


I am intrigued, might you have a link to start me in the right direction?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 03:23 AM
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Originally posted by operation mindcrime

I am not trying to start a discussion here, I am merely trying to understand your perspective but isn't a "believe" by definition a product, produced by the conscious mind, to accept the results presented to us by our unconscious mind which the conscious mind can not explain/understand??

What you are describing as "challenging believes with a foreign perspective" seems more like an alternative way of saying that you have the ability to switch between self perceived identities.

Peace


That's very relative and I'm sure you already understand what I mean. In essence, you can replace negative beliefs that serve as limitations with positive beliefs that allow your persona to fully develop.





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