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An Article About Ron Paul That Would Make Any Intelligent Hardcore Liberal Vote Ron Paul 2012!!

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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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Ron Paul is far from perfect, but I’ll say this much for the Texas congressman: He has never authorized a drone strike in Pakistan. He has never authorized the killing of dozens of women and children in Yemen. He hasn’t protected torturers from prosecution and he hasn’t overseen the torturous treatment of a 23-year-old young man for the “crime” of revealing the government’s criminal behavior.

dissidentvoice.org...


Put another, even less charitable way: Democratic partisans – liberals – are willing to trade the lives of a couple thousand poor Pakistani tribesman in exchange for a few liberal catnip-filled speeches and NPR tote bags for the underprivileged


This is an incredible article that everyone should share with every liberal progressive dem.
I mean where are the priorities?


Social Security’s great and all I guess, but not exploding little children with cluster bombs – shouldn’t that be at the top of the Liberal Agenda?

Seriously... where are the priorities?

I want to know what every left leaning member here on ATS thinks of this article?
I want to know what opposition do you have to this article???

How can liberals be okay with the status quo and then paint themselves as peace loving people that have open minds and care for others all while allowing this to go on just because the president is a part of the Democratic party?




posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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....he’s a no-good right-wing reactionary of the worst order, a guy who’d kick your Aunt Beth off Medicare and force her to turn tricks for blood-pressure meds.


and thats the cleaned up version

when people think of the gop they literally see red and that irrational judgement clouds their better judgement.

paul hasn't done anything which is true but good luck trying to tell that to other people,

they just simply want to hate on him because they simply cant get past the republican word.

and as MOST people know PAUL is a LIBERTARIAN.

good luck conveying that message on here tho most people will not go past the own noses and just regurgitate what the lame stream media tells them.


good luck

edit on 28-4-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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You can get my opinions about this article on my thread here


Fantastic article, everyone really needs to read and think about it - why did you vote Obama into office? Has he serious done anything to meet those expectations?

How about getting involved in your state's primary elections - switching party if you need to - to get a serious candidate with the right ideas into the primary election, so people can actually hear his views you and might end up with your country heading the direction you actually desire?

Please, educate yourselves about the issues and the people you might one way or another end up putting in charge of your country. I don't know how many more chances we get at this.

Be well.
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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Why does someone with the username "ModernAcademia" choose to pigeonhole all liberals as supporters of war/Obama?

What's so academic about the stuff you post? I don't see anything academic about it.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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"I am a capitalist. I believe in capitalism. I do not want to tell the corporations what to do at all as long as they do not commit fraud and live up to their promises..." - Ron Paul, U.S. House of Representatives,May 1, 2002


It's the last sentence that gets me... I believe corporatism is what is destroying the world, From Monsanto, to
BOFA, the goal is control. Pauls ideas give a direct path to a world where individuals are controlled by private law
and governance by the people, who have billions of dollars... I think government cannot be curtailed until
you end this relationship and the ultimate control of the government which is ALREADY PRIVATE IN NATURE.

The politician does not fund the corporation into power -

Paul has the equation off, I enjoy his stances on freedom of the body and belief. I also enjoy he anti military
stance too... But I think he does not see how his beliefs help create what he believes he is fighting against,
this contradiction is substantial.

Thanks for the Article



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by neo96


....he’s a no-good right-wing reactionary of the worst order, a guy who’d kick your Aunt Beth off Medicare and force her to turn tricks for blood-pressure meds.


and thats the cleaned up version

when people think of the gop they literally see red and that irrational judgement clouds their better judgement.

paul hasn't done anything which is true but good luck trying to tell that to other people,

they just simply want to hate on him because they simply cant get past the republican word.

and as MOST people know PAUL is a LIBERTARIAN.

good luck conveying that message on here tho most people will not go past the own noses and just regurgitate what the lame stream media tells them.


good luck

edit on 28-4-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)


We should eliminate American military bases around the world, you agree?



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:22 PM
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yeah i do when you come up with an alternative to oil and then come up with a plan to employ all those people abroad and when you find other work for all those people who are supporting those people abroad.

and then find homes for every single one of them.

when you do that i will agree.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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yeah i do when you come up with an alternative to oil and then come up with a plan to employ all those people abroad and when you find other work for all those people who are supporting those people abroad.

and then find homes for every single one of them.

when you do that i will agree.


Well then you don't agree with Paul, while I do...

He has NO exceptions, neither do I



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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paul needs an answer to that and if you agree with paul then you agree that entitlement programs need to be cut.




posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:27 PM
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Take just this opening paragraph;


Ron Paul is far from perfect, but I’ll say this much for the Texas congressman: He has never authorized a drone strike in Pakistan. He has never authorized the killing of dozens of women and children in Yemen. He hasn’t protected torturers from prosecution and he hasn’t overseen the torturous treatment of a 23-year-old young man for the “crime” of revealing the government’s criminal behavior.


Ron Paul also hasn't been commander in chief following someone as disastrous as Bush, leaving 2 wars, renditions and CIA torture prisons spread around the world, and a love-hate quasi alliance with Pakistan. Had he been elected in the last election, I think he would have found the Pentagon and CIA "convincing" him to do things their way. I think you'll find that they are the real "PTB" and run the show. Whoever follows Obama will do exactly the same thing, the CIA and Pentagon will always be in charge.

Maybe Ron Paul can stand up to them, only way to really find out is elect him. But keep in mind RP belongs to the party that gave us all those aforementioned problems (excepting for the Manning debacle). RP has a serious blind spot when it comes to the policies of his own party and has never stood up to them in regarding the war in Afghanistan, Iraq nor the constitutional crisis Bush put us through. Let's see if he can put his money where his mouth is.

I'd vote for RP, but that is the ONLY republican I would ever vote for, the rest are shills for the same fools that created all these crisis for the past decade, the bankers and corporate elitists and military contractors waging war for profit. I'd love to see RP team up with Jesse Ventura, but that's probably a pipe dream. If the GOP doesn't give RP a nomination then they can all rot in ****. And if RP doesn't go independent failing to get a nomination, then we'll see he is full of hot air.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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I supported the good Doctor until he quit..
it made me want to puke..
he had won every single debate, and yet I watched him be ridiculed and marginalized by the media..
at the time I did think that he was our best hope..

but then I started to think about how much he would dismantle domestically, and I had to step back and think..education and social security and the right to affordable healthcare were on the chopping block..
and I changed my mind..
I did not vote in the last presidential election..
I saw Paul tossed aside, and Obama shoved down our throats..
I will never forget how MSNBC single handedly eliminated Hillary Clinton in favor of the chosen one..
that being said I do find a few faults with this article..



Democratic partisans – liberals – are willing to trade the lives of a couple thousand poor Pakistani tribesman in exchange for a few liberal catnip-filled speeches and NPR tote bags for the underprivileged.


this is ridiculous to paint liberals this way..


And liberals are more than willing to accept a few charred women and children in some country they’ll never visit in exchange for increasing social welfare spending by 0.02 percent, or at least not cutting it by as much as a mean ‘ol Rethuglican.


again ridiculous.. a few charred women and children.. sheesh..


if there was a Republican in the White House, liberals just might start caring about the murder of non-Americans again.


just like Bush eh.. ridiculous..
lets not forget that Obama inherited this mess and ALL of the behind the scenes issues that are relevant..
you just cant stop some things immediately, after they have been initiated..


edit to add.. it is all a moot point anyway.. there is only so much he can do by executive order..
he would still have to deal with a congress..

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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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paul needs an answer to that and if you agree with paul then you agree that entitlement programs need to be cut.





I did not say I agree with him across the board, we can start by bringing our troops home



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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oh so you can do that but no one else can.

same old story different thread.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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If you'll recall, Hilary was the "chosen one" until Obama came along and mucked it up for her.

They probably still want her in office.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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oh so you can do that but no one else can.

same old story different thread.


What do you mean???

It is a starting point where factions of the right and left can agree

It is better than starting somewhere where one party is TOTALY against the idea.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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I'm a liberal and a Ron Paul sympathizer, and I know a lot of liberals that like him. He's so ridiculously conservative that he ends up being liberal. < that's how we view him.
I would vote for him, but he sadly doesn't have a chance. I'll vote in the Republican primaries for him, but I don't think I'll get a chance to vote for him in the general election.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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you misunderstood me

pull the troops out is fine with me but with the caviats of:

the economic security of this country wall street and the oil prices and gasoline prices market crash is possible and the speculation of oil driving the prices even higher and when that happens everything from food and clothing skyrockets.
the power vacuum left out there in the rest of the world and what new threats will be created from it.


i never said i didnt agree with paul bringing the troops home since the missions have been skewed to what noone recognizes.

those actions have consequences that most people are not even thinking about its just bring em home save money and then what?

i do not know you do not know and paul does not know but if he wants the job of president then he better find those answers pretty damn quick,

its one thing to promise people things and then then deliever them but whats is the real cost?.

isolationism hasnt worked out too well for the past 20 years and the last decade was proof of that but you got then answers i am all ears if paul has em i am all ears.

but someone better have a plan if not it is totally and utterly pointless because we will be right back at square one.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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I also dont agree with Ron Paul on corporations. But, I trust him to get us on the sort of track where another President, in another term, can deal with them in a way I like better. People who will only vote for someone who promises them everything they want will always elect liars.

You need to pick your battles. Right now, stauching the flow of blood and dollars in the mid east is a BIG priority. As is protecting and restoring the Constitution.

He is honest, he is willing to do what needs to be done, no matter how unpopular, he has a proven track record of doing just that, and I feel he may be our best shot at getting out of the fast lane to Fascism.

No one can fix everything in one or two terms, but I believe he will focus on making America stable financially and undoing some of the damage done to our Constitution.
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Terrorist

I would vote for him, but he sadly doesn't have a chance.


I will say the same thing I did in the last Presidential election cycle. You guys are suckers for thinking that way. Thats how they rope the disenfranchised into voting for the two party system. "Oh, I want my vote to count and such and such doesnt really have a chance. "

Vote for the right person and stop trying to end up on the winning team. I dont care WHO you vote for, but for Christs sake grow a pair and vote your conscience instead of trying to follow the herd.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 09:54 PM
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you are right.. I thought that she was too at the time..
thanks for reminding me



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