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Should All "Birther" Threads Go Directly To Hoax Forum?.....Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200

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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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When I open Recent Posts and have to sift through the birther BS to see the important threads, it makes me want to just log off.


Many members consider them important threads..

So if you don't like them then do as you say, log off




posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Absolutely.

The birther claim has been proven false time and time again. Even the proclaimed "Fake BC" has been explained. Nothing will satisfy the birthers. Ever.
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Flatfish
Now that the President has released his official long form birth certificate from the state of Hawaii and exposed those 'birthers" for the absolute nut jobs they are, isn't it time to relocate these "Birther" threads into the Hoax forum? After all, the Hoax forum clearly states that it is the proper place for "Lies, Scams & Fakes." If these threads don't qualify for that forum now, they never will.

It's bad enough that these people are dead set on destroying what little bit of credibility the republican/tea party had left, it seems that they are also dead set on labeling ATS as "the place" to gain unlimited access to spew their Lies, Scams & Fake accusations regarding the birthplace of the President of the U.S..

Actually, I think it may be time to create a new forum called the "Garbage Forum" which would be an ideal location for placement of this type of thread. Now that the proof is out, what are you waiting for? Put this crap where it belongs.
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Or...... maybe the birth certificate is as phony as they come and people won't rest until this man comes clean. And maybe, just maybe, the ATS PTB know somethings up and want to see how it all plays out. I can remember a time just prior to the presidential election that an unkind word could not be uttered against the one within the halls of the ATS, but those days are gone like the dreams and visions of supposed hope and change. So, you see, the issue won't go away because Obamma won't allow it too, because then he can't be president anymore.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
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A digitized image on my comp is proof??


So your digitized image is proof but the one provided by the state of Hawaii is fraudulent? Just because you say so? Well that's certainly good enough for me.



Who has actually held this piece of paper in their hands??


Seeing how you ask the question, www.factcheck.org...



FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.




The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.




Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."


I know, there all a bunch of liars, right? I realize that for you birthers to admit you were wrong would violate the republican/tea party policy of never saying you're sorry but in the end, this policy will do nothing other than to permanently secure your place in the nut job hall of fame.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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Sorry anti-American New Party comrades...Your being out-numbered by the "TRUTH!"

Go get a life...In Iran!
You want last long there!



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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Seeing how you ask the question, www.factcheck.org...


Who are you trying to fool??
That's the old short form..


So no one has held this long form?

A couple of Hawaiian officials have said they've seen it, that's all..



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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Yeah, I can't wait for November 2012 just to see the look our your faces when he wins re-elction to 4 more years. At this point, I don't think it would matter if he produced the actual afterbirth and mucus plug from his delivery, it wouldn't be good enough for the "birther" nut jobs. Good luck with garnering enough support to remove him from office, I'll believe it when I see it.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Flatfish
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Yeah, I can't wait for November 2012 just to see the look our your faces when he wins re-elction to 4 more years. At this point, I don't think it would matter if he produced the actual afterbirth and mucus plug from his delivery, it wouldn't be good enough for the "birther" nut jobs. Good luck with garnering enough support to remove him from office, I'll believe it when I see it.



With Obama still at the helm I personally doubt that the Good Ship USA will make it to November 2012..



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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I think the question is; Who are you trying to fool? Due to the fact that the "birthers" would not accept the short form "Certification" Of Live Birth, Fukino was sent to verify that the supporting long form "Certificate" of Live Birth did indeed exist and that is was on record with the state of Hawaii. After going into the actual records and viewing the original document, Fukino verified the existence and authenticity of the "Long Form" on record with the state. So who's trying to fool who?



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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" Now that the President has released his official long form birth certificate from the state of Hawaii and exposed those 'birthers" for the absolute nut jobs they are, isn't it time to relocate these "Birther" threads into the Hoax forum? After all, the Hoax forum clearly states that it is the proper place for "Lies, Scams & Fakes." If these threads don't qualify for that forum now, they never will.

It's bad enough that these people are dead set on destroying what little bit of credibility the republican/tea party had left, it seems that they are also dead set on labeling ATS as "the place" to gain unlimited access to spew their Lies, Scams & Fake accusations regarding the birthplace of the President of the U.S..

Actually, I think it may be time to create a new forum called the "Garbage Forum" which would be an ideal location for placement of this type of thread. Now that the proof is out, what are you waiting for? Put this crap where it belongs. "


Geez , to Bad you waited to Long to Delete this Thread , now you have to Live with your inability to Deny Ignorance..........







" There are a great multitude of individuals who are like blind mules, anxious enough to kick, but can’t tell where " .........Josh Billings


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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack

With Obama still at the helm I personally doubt that the Good Ship USA will make it to November 2012..


If that is the case, its not just on Obama, but the simple minds who ignore all the real dangers we are facing as a nation in favor to some ridiculous argument that has been demonstrated to be a HOAX.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack

With Obama still at the helm I personally doubt that the Good Ship USA will make it to November 2012..


We'll make it to November 2012 alright. The only ones I see fading into obscurity before that time will be the republican/tea party and their "birther" supporters. They may believe that the rest of the nation is crazy enough to support their agenda but I assure you that the great awakening has begun. Thanks to the republican governors and Rep. Ryan, the republican/tea party has laid their agenda out there for all to see and in case you hadn't noticed, it's not garnering that good a reception.

Buyers remorse is in full swing and come November 2012, the republican establishment will be looking at one another with a stupid look on their face asking each other; "What The Hell Just Happened?" Might look something like this;



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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I actually think these new birther threads server a very good purpose.

You can easily identify people who choose to be ignorant and deny facts. It's useful to be able to mark someone as being completely detached from reality and then know for future reference that anything they may say is suspect to being insane.

I would even suggest a "I'm still a Birther" badge...just so we know that we are dealing with an unstable mind so that we can send out an alert to all hospitals to see if any of their psych patients are missing.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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Should All "Birther" Threads Go Directly To Hoax Forum?


No, but I think all Rant Threads that are posted in the wrong forum should....



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
I actually think these new birther threads server a very good purpose.

You can easily identify people who choose to be ignorant and deny facts. It's useful to be able to mark someone as being completely detached from reality and then know for future reference that anything they may say is suspect to being insane.

I would even suggest a "I'm still a Birther" badge...just so we know that we are dealing with an unstable mind so that we can send out an alert to all hospitals to see if any of their psych patients are missing.


Great ideas, while we are at it, we need a special "I'm a Paid Government Shill" or "I Believe The OS Regardless" badge for some members too.

Maybe then they would remember this is a conspiracy site...



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Great ideas, while we are at it, we need a special "I'm a Paid Government Shill" or "I Believe The OS Regardless" badge for some members too.

Maybe then they would remember this is a conspiracy site...


A conspiracy site doesn't mean you should ignore FACTS.


Not everything is a conspiracy...sorry.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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How about we move the Hoax forum to the trash and let members make up their own damn minds, instead of mods doing it for us




 
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:38 AM
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A conspiracy site doesn't mean you should ignore FACTS.


Not everything is a conspiracy...sorry.


True, and not all conspiracies are false...

So which ones do you choose??



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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I never cared if Obama was born in Hawaii, Indonesia or Olympus Mons. The whole birther issue is a distraction from the main issues America faces, mainly its economy. I wish the MSM would pay more attention to that, along with America's intervention in Libya and the crisis in Japan.


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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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Lol. You know, I hadnt thought of that, but you are absolutely right. It DOES allow you to know with fair certainty if the person you are dealing with is irrational or emotional vs someone who makes decisions based more on data and reason.

I do have to say too, on a more positive note, that I also have nothing but the highest regard for those who used to believe, but actually let facts change their mind. Thats no small thing for many people to admit they were wrong and move on. But this issue is the recent equivalent of the WMD believers. Its just been shown by any reasonable standard NOT to be true.

(Of course I feel the same way about those who can admit they were wrong about Obama having the peoples best interests at heart, too, in light of the fact that corporations are making unprecedented gains against people on his watch.)



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