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Originally posted by Eastern_Diamondback
Originally posted by SiCkBoY
That was a comment on the post he made, or did you not see that. Have you seen Israel lately, is it working there?
The Israeli wall has been working very well. Now rather than suicide bombing offensives, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Al-Aqsa Martyrs have taken to launching inaccurate and ineffective rockets into Israeli territory.
You sound like a combination of Sinead O'Connor and Bono (that's not a compliment).
[edit on 7/29/2004 by Eastern_Diamondback]
Originally posted by SiCkBoY
It�s working so well that they can now go into the Palestinian areas and take more of their land, kill a few people with American Gun-ships and then back off to their safe place, because of a wall.
And as for �You sound like a combination of Sinead O'Connor and Bono (that's not a compliment)� you don�t know how I sound as you have never heard me, so wtf?, Ooh I see! You mean I seem like a cross between them two people, hey kid; we share a common language called English, let�s both try and use it in the future, as I do hate carrying people.
Originally posted by SiCkBoY
I strongly suggest you go read some other news channel and stop listening to the propaganda being spooned to you by FOX.
Go and kill the enemy in their own country and then construct a big fence around your own, Wise up.
Originally posted by Eastern_DiamondbackThe barrier between Israel and Gaza strip has pretty much, if not totally, eliminated suicide bombers coming from that territory.
Originally posted by SiCkBoY
Originally posted by Gazrok
why, how very Jew-erican of you.
Oh please...that is crap. Would you rather have these illegals OF ANY NATIONALITY coming over here illegally and no one knowing who they are or why they are here? This is 2004 and we are at war with terror. Our borders are going to be the death of us yet. The reason being if we don't do something about the flow of illegals into this country....the BAD GUYS are gonna get in. How smart do you have to be to realize that? HMMMMM?
Originally posted by sosuemetoo
Originally posted by Eastern_DiamondbackThe barrier between Israel and Gaza strip has pretty much, if not totally, eliminated suicide bombers coming from that territory.
I agree with you diamond.
If we were to put up a wall (either physically or with our military) this might eleminate the illegal immigrants. I have come to the conclusion that I don't care where they are from.
Originally posted by hideous_toejam
would do it but the walling wouldn't stop there. We'd soon have a plethora of walled communites, walled corporate parks, walled shopping facilities, etc. Isreal needs to come up with a better answer. I don't think they realize they're building a large ghetto in Palestine. I'm not talking NYC or DC ghetto, I'm talking WW II Warsaw Ghetto, where Jews were the kept and not the keepers. It's not the answer. And we certainly shouldn't emulate it on our border with Mexico.
Mining isn't the answer either. It would only create an entire generation of severely pissed, one-legged Mexicans. The ultimate solution would be to make life as good on the Mexican side of the border as on the US side of the border. Of course, if you can't move the border, you can move the people living nearby. I would speculate that that's what we're experiencing now. The US has always absorbed the best and the brightest the world has to offer. Now, we're absorbing everyday working people and allowing them an opportunity as well.
As these folk assimilate with American society and culture, will they someday long to return to Mexico? Will they conspire to split-off the American Southwest as a seperate country? Hardly. They will become Americans. Just as the Italians, the Polish, the French, the Irish, the English and all the other nationalities that have immigrated here have become.
Yes, they are getting in the "backdoor" so to speak. Yes, they are entering our country illegally. But, these people only want what those that came before them wanted...to live with the freedom to worship the god of their choosing, to be able to speak their mind in an open forum such as this one and the freedom to build a financial future for themselves and their families. After a few generations, we won't be able to distinguish between "Mexican" and "American", they're blood will run with our blood as one.
Speaking of blood, there are young Mexicans serving in our military now, fighting, perhaps even dying, in Iraq for the opportunity, the priviledge of becoming a citizen of the USA. God bless them and keep them safe. May their god (more than likely the Christian God) give them a peaceful and bountiful life when they return. I humbly thank them for their service and for their bravery.
Back to the most recent wall, the wall in Isreal. Roger Waters just declared open season on it. I think Waters is in his 50's now. I would put my money on Waters outlasting that wall. As Ronald Reagan might have put it, Mr. Sharon, this wall must come down!
So, I have digressed mightily from the initiating comments on this thread, the concern about terrorists entering the US via the Mexican (or, for that matter, the much, much longer Canadian) border. What can be done? I would hope that we're watching the ingress points in Mexico (and Canada) such as ports of call and airports and electronically tagging those individuals that appear suspicious so we can track their movements inside Mexico (and Canada) and the US. I would hope they would lead us to even more suspicious individuals and we could then study them and perhaps turn some of them. I'm not sure of the technology involved but I'm sure we're capable. If not, we could simply intercept them, torture them to learn where they're going and what they're doing, assume their identities (if deemed wothwhile) and start working on the inside. Or, we could just torture them, extract as much info as possible and give them a one-way to Gitmo, track down any leads here or abroad and keep on hunting down their vermin brethren.
Originally posted by hideous_toejam
It's not the answer. And we certainly shouldn't emulate it on our border with Mexico.
Mining isn't the answer either. It would only create an entire generation of severely pissed, one-legged Mexicans. The ultimate solution would be to make life as good on the Mexican side of the border as on the US side of the border.
Of course, if you can't move the border, you can move the people living nearby. I would speculate that that's what we're experiencing now. The US has always absorbed the best and the brightest the world has to offer. Now, we're absorbing everyday working people and allowing them an opportunity as well.
As these folk assimilate with American society and culture, will they someday long to return to Mexico? Will they conspire to split-off the American Southwest as a seperate country? Hardly. They will become Americans. Just as the Italians, the Polish, the French, the Irish, the English and all the other nationalities that have immigrated here have become.
Yes, they are getting in the "backdoor" so to speak. Yes, they are entering our country illegally. But, these people only want what those that came before them wanted...to live with the freedom to worship the god of their choosing, to be able to speak their mind in an open forum such as this one and the freedom to build a financial future for themselves and their families.
Speaking of blood, there are young Mexicans serving in our military now, fighting, perhaps even dying, in Iraq for the opportunity, the priviledge of becoming a citizen of the USA. God bless them and keep them safe. May their god (more than likely the Christian God) give them a peaceful and bountiful life when they return. I humbly thank them for their service and for their bravery.
Back to the most recent wall, the wall in Isreal. Roger Waters just declared open season on it. I think Waters is in his 50's now. I would put my money on Waters outlasting that wall. As Ronald Reagan might have put it, Mr. Sharon, this wall must come down!
Go and kill the enemy in their own country and then construct a big fence around your own, Wise up.
It means you sound like those whiny one world Irish activists always protesting against some "injustice" like Sinead O'Connor and Bono did/do. Let me ask you, are you some IRA sympathizer? It wouldn't shock me if you were given the bond the IRA has felt with the PLO.
Mining isn't the answer either. It would only create an entire generation of severely pissed, one-legged Mexicans. The ultimate solution would be to make life as good on the Mexican side of the border as on the US side of the border. Of course, if you can't move the border, you can move the people living nearby. I would speculate that that's what we're experiencing now. The US has always absorbed the best and the brightest the world has to offer. Now, we're absorbing everyday working people and allowing them an opportunity as well.
As these folk assimilate with American society and culture, will they someday long to return to Mexico?
Originally posted by SiCkBoY
Lets not get into that, as I don�t want to humiliate you with your lack of world knowledge. Just keep in mind that America is the whole world, and the rest are just wee Islands, brains #2