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Donald Trump's New Question for Obama

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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by MiTS1965

Originally posted by JackyMenace
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I would rather be able to own a gun. It's not cool if the people who have power over you have weapons and you don't. You truly come off to me as a racist ass.

I am anything but a racist. You don't seem to have understood me when I said those attacking Obama were doing it for racist reasons.

I'm accusing THEM of being racist you idiot!


I am just going to say I am getting sick of this being thrown up. It was okay to ridicule bush, clinton, bush, reagan etc etc. It was ok for the media to dig into all their dirty secrets. But the second anything about Obama is raised the stupid irrational answer is racism. Its not, he sucks just as bad as the others, and having to tread water about him is more racist then attacking his policies.




posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by MiTS1965

Originally posted by Danbones
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the criminals aren't carrying legal guns pal
smarten up

No-one should be carrying a gun. Legal or not.

We don't allow any guns in the UK.

Go and check the death rate by shooting in the US compared to the UK.

Surprised by the result?


And yet there's millions(potentially tens, depending on which report you read) of illegal fire arms in the UK, guess who has them all? Criminals. What world are you living in? Anyone can get a gun in this country, it really wouldn't be difficult. Just find some low level drug dealer, he'll get his drugs from another drug dealer, 2 or 3 people up the pyramid and you're talking machine gun level weaponry. And when these people break in your house and aim a gun at you, what are you gonna do?

A gun in the house should be absolutely legal. The only reason people are against guns is because the government and media have been relatively clever and tied the right to bear arms with being something chiefly American and hickish. People aren't against owning guns, they're against Americans. It's that simple. Media propaganda to remove our rights, pretty soon you won't be able to walk to the park with a cricket bat. Any form or protection or self defence is illegal, got to have us peasant folk made dependent upon government and police.

You're being daft mate. It's the one thing America has right, the one progressive law they have, the right to defend yourself and your property from intruders. In Britain you can stab a robber in the arse with a fork and will see jail time.

Pro-Establishment people like yourself need to wake up. You might enjoy your nice little OxBridge bubble but the majority of people in the real world need a form of self defence to deter criminals.

Here's something for you to check, the burglary and violent crime rate in the UK compared to the US. If you bothered to check that you'd soon realise the UK is far more dangerous, because criminals are allowed to run freely and have no fear. These are the frequent and applicable crimes the common man must deal with. You've got more chance being hit by a car than you have being shot in America. It's not a big deal, only to people who want to take away freedoms.



Also you omit the fact Britain has one of the best hospital services in the world, and free at that. This goes a long way in preventing potential deaths and keeping them as nothing more than serious injury.

And here's a fact for you, guns are legal in many progressive Democratic nations. Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world it's a requirement, actually. And here's one for the record too, their murder by gun rate is insanely low, I believe about 30 people a year in the whole country. The rate of killing with guns is about 1 for every 300,000 people. Why, because they're a Democratic nation with an educated population. And because people aren't breaking into houses with the threat of being shot with an automatic rifle.

I'm a through and through Socialist, and America politically gives me the lulz, but it's a real shame that the British media are using Anti-American sentiment to spread anti-gun propaganda and quash liberty, freedom and the right to self protection.

But hey, if you're happy depending on an incompetent police force to defend your family, do you. From where I'm sat it's just an excuse to take pot-shots at America.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by Aliensun


... Nothing worse than a nose in the air Englishman.


The good news about haughty upturned noses is a clean shot at their chin...



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 07:06 PM
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Funny how you try to pass it off that people who don't like Obama are racist when you are the one throwing the card out there. You are the racist one here.

I could care less what color he is or isn't. I do think he is an idiot who couldn't run a convenience store well much less a country. He has proven he can't run this country. Maybe when he gets out of office he will buy a 7-11 and try that.

Till then, he can spend a few hundred thousand dollars to fly Air Force One to be on the Oprah show again.


I agree it's not about the grades, it's about the classes he took and MAYBE even the fact that he was here as an exchange student?



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Well if that isn't the stupidest thing I have ever read on here.....

We don't have guns here so check your shooting statistics with ours?!?!!?

That's like saying:

check the statistics and see who had more deaths by shark attack: Florida or Nebraska DUH !

Before you spew crap from your mouth maybe you should read this.........

"Analysis of figures from the European Commission showed a 77 per cent increase in murders, robberies, assaults and sexual offences in the UK since Labour came to power. The total number of violent offences recorded compared to population is higher than any other country in Europe, as well as America, Canada, Australia and South Africa., robberies, assaults and sexual offenses in the UK since Labour came to power.[b]

The total number of violent offenses recorded compared to population is higher than any other country in Europe, as well as America, Canada, Australia and South Africa.

Source

Taking guns away from your area sure seemed to help....


As far nobody anyone questioning Bush or Clinton's citizenship status was because there was no question about it. They both did have questions raised about other things though. Was Bush's military past brought into question because he was white? Was Clintons sex scandal jumped on because he was white?



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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by MiTS1965

Originally posted by JackyMenace
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Oh.. I see. I don't care about skin color but I question whether he is a legit citizen or not too. If he could be president but not be a citizen, what is stopping other people who weren't born here? Whether white pink green or brown, everybody should have to follow the same rules. Ya know?

Your entire nation (bar the actual people who were here before you) consists of immigrants.

The idea that you should shun someone as president because they did not originate on your shores means the whole bloody lot of you should sod off back to the countries your anscestors came from.


I am not a birther, but you are so far off base on what you're suggesting. The Constitution of The United States is the most important legal document that we adhere to. To dismiss it, or disregard it's contents is not only seriously unacceptable, but treasonous. The issue is not about where he is from, but that one MUST be a natural born American citizen. That in itself is the only issue. The laws of the United States can be ratified. Until done so, we must abide by them. There is nothing wrong with that.
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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I fear Trump will probably become president because he offers what most of America loves, good reality TV.
These are dark days for America,the population is turning into zombies,and it wouldn't surprise me to see the cast of Jersey Shore on congress. Meanwhile,people like Ron Paul is trying to make actual change,showing steps and actions to take,instead of demonizing and attacking opponents. it's not about the opponents!!!

By the way,if Trump does win,America is doomed,the man looks like he cares more about tv drama and money than the nation's needs. He's in for the money.

Good luck America!



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by MiTS1965
This is becoming pathetic.

You have a black president.

Live with it.

DING DING DING first "RACECARD"!!!!in the thread award.
"Half black" as if it matters.Bill Clinton was called the first "black president..."( but he was all white
)



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by MiTS1965
This is becoming pathetic.

You have a black president.

Live with it.

Can we trade "oh-bama" for Morgan Freeman;, Danny glover; Bill Cosby; Colin Powell ?????
THEN YOU'D still FEEL SUPERIOR FOR VOTING FOR A" BLACK" MAN AND WE'D STILL HAVE A "COMPETENT" MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE.????(see I feel "superior" for NOT letting race affect my vote eitherway.)
What's pathetic is :
vladimir putin hunts bears with a"gasket scraper"for fun ;while Obama wears abicycle helmet peddaling a "girl's (frame) bicycle"...



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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 03:40 AM
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Nothing worse than a nose in the air Englishman.


Oh i don't know...bamboo spikes hammered under your fingernails is pretty worse...so is red hot needles jammed into your eyeballs.

Starving to death...dying of thirst...being raped...seeing someone you love die in pain...yeah, lot's of things are worse than a hoity English person.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 03:55 AM
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Originally posted by tnhiker
I am just going to say I am getting sick of this being thrown up. It was okay to ridicule bush, clinton, bush, reagan etc etc. It was ok for the media to dig into all their dirty secrets. But the second anything about Obama is raised the stupid irrational answer is racism. Its not, he sucks just as bad as the others, and having to tread water about him is more racist then attacking his policies.



Yesterday I heard a lot of Obama bashing. Just about none of it had anything to do with policy, the man, or his job as president. It was all "he is different," hiding something, mysterious, scary, needs to get off the basketball court, etc. Then good Old Sally Kern gets on the House Floor and announces that black people are just lazier than white people and I come to ATS and see these posts about how there is NO RACISM, and he is only half black, and the race card is tired and old, etc.

Well you know what they say. You gotta dance with the one what brung ya.


Originally posted by 46ACE
DING DING DING first "RACECARD"!!!!in the thread award.
"Half black" as if it matters.Bill Clinton was called the first "black president..."( but he was all white
)


Like this nonsense right here. I would really like someone to tell me that they honestly believe a racist person sees a person as dark as Obama and then takes the time to find out just what percentage of him is actually black before deciding whether or not to hate them based on race. I think people like this go out of their way to pretend that racist people just LOVE MIXED RACE people.
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 03:58 AM
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Well you know what they say. You gotta dance with the one what brung ya.


So who's your dance partner at the WH ??



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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Don't lie to yourself.

Birthers are some of the biggest liars around.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 04:01 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
So who's your dance partner at the WH ??


I had no idea I was at the whitehouse.
I thought I was on ATS.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 04:07 AM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by backinblack
So who's your dance partner at the WH ??


I had no idea I was at the whitehouse.
I thought I was on ATS.


You're anonymous..
Who knows where you work..

ATS isn't your job right?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 04:11 AM
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Shouldn't you be more worried about Julia?

After all, Barack Obama isn't the PM of Australia.

What's your problem then, mate?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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Shouldn't you be more worried about Julia?

After all, Barack Obama isn't the PM of Australia.

What's your problem then, mate?


Personally I think they both have a bit in common..
Julia wasn't born in the country she leads and she sucks...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 04:59 AM
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Originally posted by ChicagOpinion
www.examiner.com...

Now that Obama 'thinks' the 'birther' issue is silenced, Donald Trump is challenging him with a new question regarding his academic records which have yet to be unleashed to the public.

I say Trump is missing the reason that Obama wants his academic records kept private. It's most likely not due to his low grades, but likely due to his associations (political and otherwise) and the names of the classes he was enrolled in.

Knowing Obama's organizational alliances during his advanced-education years, as well as the types of courses he took, could tell us much about him that he doesn't want us to know. That information could very well be image-damaging.

www.examiner.com...


Where is Trump's birth certificate?
Where is Trump's academic records?
Are they fake or forged too?
Why isn't Trump up for the same scrutiny that he places Obama under?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:05 AM
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:08 AM
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Trump's just a caricature of a person. He's not even a real human. He's a ventriloquist dummy whose string is stuck on "d-bag".

/TOA



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