Video: PROOF!!! Obama Birth Certificate Fraud

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by mudbeed

 

Just reflect on the most recent threads about the LFBC on ATS, further, one only needs to scan and peruse different sources as of late to see the truth. I couldnt possibly list all the sources that are debating this topic.

You want proof, just do your own research and believe what you want to believe. let's say you believe Obama is legit, and lets say there is viable evidence to support that he is NOT a citizen. Are you going to believe said proof? Most likely not. Why? Because you have already made your mind up about what you believe and no amount of evidence will sway your thoughts.

That is why I dont believe in the " show me proof " paradigm.

No it is just that I see two outcomes.

One) We actually vote for our pres and he runs the country. In this situation I think it is safe to say he was born here at this point.

Two) Elites actually control everything in which case it really dosen't matter where he was born.

I guess I assume #1 above is fact because if #2 is the way it is, we have no chance. I need to have a chance to care.

Not everything needs proof, I agree, but there hasn't been any evidence on this whole birther claim that hasn't been debunked.

Like the Kenyan BC etc, those have been verified hoaxes. I need something that hasn't been proven false to keep me interested.

The layer thing brought up, I know for a personal fact that this is a normal process. It makes me laugh when people believe that layers prove anything.

So I am honestly looking for real facts that allow me to make a decision.

This video proves nothing but more disinformation and more misinformation using no real basis for anything.

reply to post by mudbeed


Actually I think your number 2 hit it spot on.

Here is one of the best post I have seen proving it is a fraud....

The CIA are slackers....lol.....or...they want to use this to keep our attention off an upcoming event next month...May....."The Great Central U.S. ShakeOut "...They didn't purchase hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stuff for no reason....Be prepared people.....
Cry racist, cry.....I don't believe in labels..I believe in truthful decent human beings and don't care if they a purple.....this man is a liar and has committed treason and need to be tried and convicted along with his cohorts and the paid government media...It's past time to take this country back......

I'm sorry, but only a fool would believe this is a real birth certificate.....It is fake by purpose.....You'll find out next month why, I do believe.....

Link To Best Evidence I have seen so far:

www.buzzfeed.com...

Its amazing to me that something like this has gotten the attention that it has, when such a mediocre document was presented, my wife is a studio photographer, not professional, but she is also just starting out. Even she looked at the PDF file and said, its a fake because of how it was actually constructed. Her take is..."If they were trying to fool people, they shouldve at least flattened the layers"

Originally posted by Thornography11
Its amazing to me that something like this has gotten the attention that it has, when such a mediocre document was presented, my wife is a studio photographer, not professional, but she is also just starting out. Even she looked at the PDF file and said, its a fake because of how it was actually constructed. Her take is..."If they were trying to fool people, they shouldve at least flattened the layers"

They are telling the Americans, "Look, we rule you and this planet, get over it. There is nothing you can do as time has passed you by. You will comply or you will die...We will take your homes, your land and your jobs..When we speak, you will jump...You are no better than dogs to us, and a bastardized mutt at best...We can hand you $hit and tell you it's candy and you foolish Americans will eat it up...Your not men now as we have feminized you and also dumbed you down, sprayed you, poisoned your water supply, and taken your assets...You have no way to fight us, so just give up. We are now killing you slowly, but, if you persist on acting out we will mass kill you and dumb you in mass graves where 95% of you belong anyway..WE are the masters....learn this now before we take more drastic measures to rid the earth of you useless eaters."

This is what is in the minds of the ruling elite and powers that be......Are you going to listen to them? I for one am not...They can all die and can all go to hell...If there is a hell, I for one will send them there......

So these guys can take over oil and drug rich countries with unmanned planes but they can't remember to flatten all the layers on Adobe? You guys are buying right in.

god, this story is so entertaining.

this may prove to be one of the 'silliest' debates the pres has engaged with. the net is already flooded with 'fake cert' videos.

Originally posted by hawkiye I could have told you this was a fake without even looking at it.

And that's the heart and soul of the Birther argument.


No amount of evidence will ever satisfy them, and any time MORE evidence is produced, they immediately cry "FORGERY" and go about their merry way. I thought the credo of this site was "Deny Ignorance"?

Originally posted by cagliostro

Originally posted by hawkiye I could have told you this was a fake without even looking at it.

And that's the heart and soul of the Birther argument.

No amount of evidence will ever satisfy them, and any time MORE evidence is produced, they immediately cry "FORGERY" and go about their merry way. I thought the credo of this site was "Deny Ignorance"?

That's because they discover the document IS a forgery. Geddit?
2nd line

There is only one certain way to prove the document is a fraud. The typewriter fingerprint. It convicted the

Unibomber and it will convict Obama. It is valid forensic evidence that can still be applied to a manipulated document. Every good investigator knows this for a fact. It was one of the prime sources of evidence before the PC became common.

I have mentioned it 3 times that there were 3 different typewriters used to make various portions of the typing.

We're back to rehashing already debunked theories again I see.
Next week it will be the grandmother again.
After that the SS number
After that he will be Re-elected

4 more years of birtherism.................

Layers layers. Sounds like a bunch of onions to me.

They spent ton's of money trying to block the media from attaining his BC........Why would they do this if there was nothing to hide. We have to produce our's when we aquire a job. He works for us....not the other way around.

They release the short form BC saying there is no long form.....Now there is. The money they spent on laywers to block any information about Obama's BC had no idea about the long form? Remember they been working on this issue for 2 years and informed the White House of what they were doing. So when they said there was no long form they had to know there was. So the White House lied. Is this acceptable to you. Is it now acceptable for your President to lie to you. .....This is pure and simple.....They lied on purpose.

The long form BC can be broken into layers from the PDF file they provided. Why is that possible? The only reason why that could happen would mean that it was Doctored. No matter what info was changed it was still screwed with. Was it done to change information and the White House is just that stupid?....I belive they are. Or was it done by a Man or Woman in the White House who still belives in the Truth and did it on purpose to expose the Liars and didn't want to be part of their anti american agenda. It might be interesting to see who "office workers" gets fired in the White House in the next couple of days for this. All the changes were made and it looked good to the White House on the surface, But subtile enhancements would prove it was tampered with.

They release this the same day the Fed is too have it's very first news confrence ever! Since the Fed is not part of the Government they have no Idea what Bernake is going to say. I know he eventually offered nothing and it was a dog and pony show. But....what are the odds? The White House played a bait and switch with the American Public. Is that how you want your Government work? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain?

This is how bad this Administration runs' things. Are you going to trust anything this President is going to put into place if he can't even produce a BC without screwing it up? I wouldn't allow this Administration do my household bills! Let alone the entire healthcare industry.

Obama says the rich are the problem "I belive that some are" he calls them the Elite. You know....he's half right. The Elite are the problem.....The Government Elite! Bait and switch again. The Democrats and Republicans have been screwing up our future for their gains and power for so long now that they didn't notice they had been infiltrated by a Shadow Socialist group that is playing them against each other for their own evil purpose.

There hasn't been a halfway decent President since Reagan!
I'm an Independent voter and I hate both party's for what they've done to this great country!

DreamVapor.........Your a very smart man.......Glad your here at ATS.......

They release this the same day the Fed is too have it's very first news confrence ever! Since the Fed is not part of the Government they have no Idea what Bernake is going to say. I know he eventually offered nothing and it was a dog and pony show. But....what are the odds? The White House played a bait and switch with the American Public. Is that how you want your Government work? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain?


This is what it is all about........They want peeps to keep their eyes "OFF The Federal Reserve"

I don't know if anybody has posted this anywhere in here I didn't look and if they did it doesn't matter. The more times the better.
Obama'a long form forgery by Outlivesheep

www.video.me...

outlivesheep.com...

DreamVapor.........Your a very smart man.......Glad your here at ATS.......

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WOW! ........Thats very nice to say....to bad it's not true.

I am very very very very average compared to some of the posters on this site. And some will tell you straight out how brillant they are compared to everyone else.

I just thought it was blatantly obvious what they were doing! I have heard better constructed lies from my kids when they were preteens!
And if I can see through these lies why can't other people?
People need to WAKE THE HELL UP! And they need to protect our childrens freedoms and their future! These people are selling our children's and their children into a lifetime of destitution and misery!
What Washington is doing is Treasonous!

send this video to the suprme court, you local senators, mayors, representatives, governors, etc

really, I mean it

just ask them if you can go on record with their response and post them here

really, I mean it

reply to post by KainRich


Dude, if he's anything like me, we don't care if he's black or w.e. It's the fact that a foreign president at ALL is in office, let alone one making horrible decisions for our country, sir. Obama has gotten us in further into 2 wars and now Libya. Our economy is tanking. He says that he's going to pull us out of Afghanistan in July, but we are nowhere near being done there. Plus the imminent WWIII will be here before we're ready to pull out anyways. Wake up man!

Discussion Already Underway

Yes, it's a long read, but this topic is already being covered in great detail in an existing thread:

Obama's NEW Birth Certificate proven to be fake hours after release

Let's please continue discussion there.

Thanks.