Obama's LFBC has CIA-61 handwritten on it - ATS Exclusive

Originally posted by kauskau
reply to post by WdBASH

 

i would say: i can understand they did not take u.....research more

Actually, im sort of surprised they didnt take him.

reply to post by boondock-saint



It just a wild guess here something is making me think what if the CIA .. ( I know its way out there in the Conspiracy Field ) but maybe just maybe as the majority past presidents have been proven to be linked to High Royalty Bloodlines ! and thats a Fact!! That the CIA is Kept Tracking Records of People in The United States of those Bloodlines more less like what the Mormon's do in Keeping records of just Everyone just that Some branch of CIA is doing it in the Higher level ...For the Royal Blood Line Purpose For what reason who knows!

25 American Presidents are Related


www.asis.com...

Genealogical relationships of Presidents of the United States

Thiis may be the reason for the invisible water mark AWGD CIA-61

Or it Could be from a CIA Microfilm ?

Obama releated to all but 1 of US presidents , page 1
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Obama + ALL U.S.A. Presidents are related to King of England, 12 Year Old Discovers! IMAGINE THAT!



Genealogical relationships of Presidents of the United States
en.wikipedia.org...

Cousin

7th Harry Truman and Barack Obama (three times removed)
8th Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama (twice removed)
10th Gerald Ford and Barack Obama (once removed)
10th George W. Bush and Barack Obama (twice removed)

Royal

Barack Obama (descendant of Edward I of England and William the Lion of Scotland)

Irish Royalty
Barack Obama (descendant of Brian Boru)

Well seeing the majority presidents is related to Charlemagne but.. i wont get into the Holy Blood Holy Grail..
Thing..

This is Just a Test ahh i meant GUESS!

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Blarneystoner

 

CiA could stand for Certified Internal Auditor

Or, as already proven above, faint impressions of the letters O A H ..... the first three letters of the Island of O'ahu (proper spelling), but in all caps.

I can't see the picture... the host is blocked on my end. Can someone embed it on ATS please?

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Bosko
Thanks, I think that solves the mystery. What I believe caused it to show up is in the scanning process. If the short form document was stored right behind the long form document, then a very small amount of ink may have came off onto the back of the long form.

dude, short forms are not stored
in this roll, this is long form only roll.
So how would a short form come
in contact with a long form???

And even if it did, laser printers,
the ink dries just about as fast
as it is sprayed on. How can it
rub off onto this document??

I just don't see the process as you
are describing it. These 2 should never
meet or even touch.

Oh c'mon Saint. You are a smart guy.

This is clearly OAHU.

Don't lose the respect you have over something.

You are smart, there is no shame in saying "Ahh yeah, I see ..oops false alarm"

That is an interesting 'find'. My eyes can see the CIA-61, although we all know that our senses can trick us, specially when they are conditioned to interpret things in a way. I have a harder time seeing the OAHU others talked about. Sure, I can easily see the "OA" part, but the "HU" part is just no there for me.

As a brazilian who has no reason to like or dislike Obama, who takes no sides in the republican vs democrats rivalry, I consider myself lucky, perhaps, to see all the information regarding the quesitoning of Obama's BC and be able to analyse it and reach my conclusions without any emotions involved.

To me, it all sounds fishy. I mean, it didn't have to be his birth certificate. It could be anything else. Why his BC? Why did they choose to challenge that? If it was such a dumb challenge, it would already be over. And now Obama finally comes up with the BC and it has all these inconsistencies... it just doesn't look good.

As for those who say that the government has all the resources and all the money to do a good forgery if they wanted to, if that was the case, there would be no conspiracy theories, because then TPTB could always lie to us and we would never know. Don't underestimate yourselves. That's what THEY do and that's why WE are HERE!

Finally, I have to say that those who believe the PDF of the BC is a forgery are producing a lot more elaborate posts and sound a lot more clever than those who don't believe in it. Most of the non-believers are sounding childish and provide almost no resistance to the arguments put forward by those who believe the PDF is fake. Good job and good find!

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Yeah rejection always hurts a little, (maybe thats why I tend to lash out) but to be honest it's their loss not mine.

It doesn't say CiA-61, it says OAHU.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by boondock-saint
I need your eyes. do u see what i see?
handwritten over Ann's address
is Kenya !!!!

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a554075a9688.jpg[/atsimg]

It say ( To me ) as it is HAND written

O

B ( with the K blocking the bottom part of the lower 2nd curve of the B )

A (way outof place as the Trangle top of the a is mostly shown)

M ( rewritten Twice and darker on Top written wide! )

A ( a little faint )

No way does it say Kenya !


to add I think the hand written ! was written before the typing !! and the hand written was used with a Lead Pencil! just a guess !

reply to post by boondock-saint


Couple of more tidbits from Michael Rivero at www.whatreallyhappened.com to share:

Kenya (listed as Obama's father's nation of birth) wasn't called Kenya in 1961. It was the British East Africa Protectorate. It was not known as "Kenya" until 1963.

In 1961, the hospital Obama was born in was NOT named the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital , as shown on the above certificate. In 1961, the hospital Obama was born in was named the Kauaikeolani Children's Hospital. It did not change its name to the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until it merged with the Kapiolani hospital system in 1978.

What the hell is going on here folks?

This just has to be a distraction. Now comes the big question: a distraction from what?

Originally posted by boondock-saint
well I think I have figured out what the CIA-61 stands for now.

That would be CIA Class of 61.
As in graduate from the farm.
And I'd bet ya money that's where
Obama's daddy went.

Ann was too young at the time to meet
the age requirement.

edit on 4/28/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)

do you have any examples of children of CIA agents having their birth certificates modified or authorized by the agency? because it sounds like you just made that up, scraping the bottom of the birther barrel for any last shred of "evidence."

assuming your theories are correct, why on earth would CIA mark the document? why would they leave any paper trail at all? what do you think is at the heart of this conspiracy? what are the motives for official government agencies aiding in the creation of a false identity for a member's child?

Originally posted by General.Lee
It doesn't say CiA-61, it says OAHU.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Very good! The image in the thread linked by you shows it a lot more clear. It does say OAHU!

reply to post by henriquefd


I really don't buy that they couldn't fake it.

One could argue that the reason we have conspiracy theories is because they fake it so! well.

MOST CTs start by word of mouth and stay that way. There really is never that much smoking gun evidence for anything. Not government docs I mean.

I understand you will have your view on this and I mine, just retorting. I do not expect to change your mind on that issue, but it's all good.

You have to remember you are looking at a scan of an original document and said original document was keep with other original documents of the same type. Thus over time you are going to get ink from the other documents onto the original, and all kinds of crazy ghost ink information is going to appear. It happens all the time.

Sorry no stars, no flags. Non issue.

If you think that says CIA-61, then I have a slice of toast for you that if you squint long enough resembles either Jesus or Donald Trump. Give me a break!

I'm perplexed as to how the Hawaii Governor couldn't find the BC and no one at the hospital could either?
So were was it?

I have been playing with this in photoshop and noticed a few things. First thing I noticed was were the signature of the attendant is, there appears to be a paragraph of text behind it.

Second thing is a LOT of the blanks are obvious copy and paste. Different textures and what not.

NEW UPDATE:
Yes some of you were right,
there is a bleed over from Obama's
short form BC on the long form.
But I can't help but wonder, how
many of these birth certificates
Obama really has. Cuz the short
form underneath this scan
appears to be void and it's got
Obama's name on it.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/469d0e131ab8.jpg[/atsimg]

or once again my eyes may be seeing
something not there.

More drivel...


Those marks are from other birth certificates in the book above it...

Originally posted by Joe Slops
If you think that says CIA-61, then I have a slice of toast for you that if you squint long enough resembles either Jesus or Donald Trump. Give me a break!

Hahaha ! Sooooo true!

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This is the reason why I come to this site. (S+F)
And yes, I'm still voting for you.