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Opinions needed about demonic forces regarding my son who is only 7.

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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All I'm saying is, don't try and give the OP advice in an area you don't have real expertise in. The consequences could be dangerous




posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Griffo
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All I'm saying is, don't try and give the OP advice in an area you don't have real expertise in. The consequences could be dangerous


Was this a misquote? My last response was towards lemax and i keep reiterating my personal experience with the tedious task of diagnoses and being on the same end as her....watching a loved one suffer and professionals being nothing but perplexed. Im also implying that when medicine fails us like this we all naturally want to turn somewhere for an answer (we seem to be impatient beings when someone we love is hurting, and for good reason) like an unseen entity making us ill. And what i have continued to imply is that she shouldnt be going one way or another, but using her faith and medicine in a symbiotic way. Use your faith to deal with the hard path to finding a diagnoses through medicine.

I think we are on the same page here



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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I get a kick out of how convinced those worshipping at the altar of the temple of science are that their materialistic reductionism can always and in all circumstances explain the peculiarities and intricacies of human experience.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by Elbereth
I get a kick out of how convinced those worshipping at the altar of the temple of science are that their materialistic reductionism can always and in all circumstances explain the peculiarities and intricacies of human experience.


Did you buy that thesaurus all by yourself?

Seriously, add something relevant instead of denouncing medicine with as many big words as you can in one drawn out sentence. I myself have tried my best to make sure I dont tell her to denounce her faith in favor of medicine, what ive explained is that why make your life complicated and fight this big battle for no reason when religion and science can be harmonious with eachother but cant necessarily replace one or the other.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by restlessbrainsyndrome
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How long did his seizure last? Did you call 911 when it happened? Why did they say he had a seizure? How many seizures has he had? They had to give you a diagnosis. Complex migraines are often accompanied by throwing up and diarrhea, but when accompanied by seizures, it is often a sign of epilepsy. 70% of people who have partial complex seizures have migraines, but most people who have migraines do not have seizures. So he could be having seizures when you didn't even know it, like in his sleep. And getting severe migraines as a result.

Also....a persons face will change with a migraine and also with a seizure or in any type of severe pain. It is a much more likely explanation for these things than "demons". What do you do when he has a migraine? Do you give him tylenol? Did the doctors put him on a medicine for it?






She has said the child has been to specialists. If it was epilepsy they would have already diagnosed. Also asaprtame can cause it. www.naturalnews.com...

Also MSG gives me bad headaches but I don't think seizures occur with that.

The food industry is slipping both MSG and aspartame in all sorts of prepared foods. They try to hide MSG with names like "textured vegetable protein". Aspartame is considered an excitotoxin and should never have been approved by the FDA.
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by topherman420

Originally posted by Elbereth
I get a kick out of how convinced those worshipping at the altar of the temple of science are that their materialistic reductionism can always and in all circumstances explain the peculiarities and intricacies of human experience.


Did you buy that thesaurus all by yourself?

Seriously, add something relevant instead of denouncing medicine with as many big words as you can in one drawn out sentence. I myself have tried my best to make sure I dont tell her to denounce her faith in favor of medicine, what ive explained is that why make your life complicated and fight this big battle for no reason when religion and science can be harmonious with eachother but cant necessarily replace one or the other.


Ha! I like your snark, but my comment just happened to follow yours. It was generally aimed at all those who were not as measured as yourself. Sorry if you took it otherwise, but I can see why you did. The important thing is that the OP gets the appropriate help, wherever she may be able to find it.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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See if you can get a doctor to prescribe a TENS unit or a CES for the migraines. Demons don't seem to like electricity.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Elbereth

Originally posted by topherman420

Originally posted by Elbereth
I get a kick out of how convinced those worshipping at the altar of the temple of science are that their materialistic reductionism can always and in all circumstances explain the peculiarities and intricacies of human experience.


Did you buy that thesaurus all by yourself?

Seriously, add something relevant instead of denouncing medicine with as many big words as you can in one drawn out sentence. I myself have tried my best to make sure I dont tell her to denounce her faith in favor of medicine, what ive explained is that why make your life complicated and fight this big battle for no reason when religion and science can be harmonious with eachother but cant necessarily replace one or the other.


Ha! I like your snark, but my comment just happened to follow yours. It was generally aimed at all those who were not as measured as yourself. Sorry if you took it otherwise, but I can see why you did. The important thing is that the OP gets the appropriate help, wherever she may be able to find it.


I do apologize, i did think back on this thread...bad day and it happens. I will agree with you to a point...which is dont hold entire faith in medicine. That i completely agree, I still distrust doctors and question anything they do involving my mother (unless its a treatment ive observed that works on her and is not detrimental). Education is the key, dont let either control you. Again apologies, may we both hope OP has forgotten about us and this site lol



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:21 PM
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No apologies necessary for a simple misunderstanding, toperman420, but thanks nonetheless.

I am not anti-science or anti-medicine. I owe my life to some wonderful doctors, amazingly compassionate nurses, and cutting-edge, hi-tech medical technology. I used to be a devoted materialist, but the experience of living in three different haunted houses has left me absolutely no other option than to accept the reality of invisible forces or entities that can act on people and even physically harm them (my wife was struck by an entity, raising a hand-shaped welt on her back.) I tried to explain away and deny my experiences for some time, but at a certain point a phenomena can be so persistent and affect so many people that to deny it would be no different than to deny the rising sun or the bedpost you have just stubbed your toe on.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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My suggestion to you is to start reading the bible with your son. The bible contains truth although it's hidden in a sea of perversions.

Since apparently the doctors (science) could not find anything on him to help him, try the spiritual side, and maybe it will help him.

Mark 9:14-29 (King James Version)

14And when he came to his disciples, he saw a great multitude about them, and the scribes questioning with them.

15And straightway all the people, when they beheld him, were greatly amazed, and running to him saluted him.

16And he asked the scribes, What question ye with them?

17And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit;

18And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not.

19He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.

20And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.

21And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child.

22And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.

23Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

24And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

25When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.

26And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.

27But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.

28And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out?

29And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:53 PM
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I do not discount the problems you are facing with your son. There is a real spiritual battle that occurs on this earth. When your husband got better, did you just give birth to your son? I'm wondering if the spirit quit bothering your husband and moved on to your child since children are more vulnerable. I would seek the advice of the Catholic church. I would also take your child to church as much as possible. I do not advise communication with the "spirit".



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:28 PM
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Sorry I have to dismiss your lack of faith and spiritual knowledge here.
I have 50 years of experience in this field and can tell when it is an illness and when it is demon oppression, My Uncle and I have being doing exorcisms since 1974 and have seen Hundreds if not thousands of oppressed people being delivered as well as houses and buildings.

The Mechanisms of Hasatan are many.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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I hope your children are taken away from you for their own safety. I'm afraid you might end up hurting them or worse because somewhere in the Bible or somewhere along the lines of schizophrenia, you've been told by God that you must slay them.

articles.cnn.com...:LAW



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:57 PM
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You do not need to be giving this advice. You have no right in this world to tell this Woman her SON should be taken from her. You dont know her. You are NOT a psychologist. If you were , you deffinetly wouldnt have said something like that over the internet.
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:52 PM
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Sorry to say that but It sounds like Schizophrenia symptoms





Schizophrenia Symptoms and Diagnosis


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People diagnosed with schizophrenia usually experience a combination of positive (i.e. hallucinations, delusions, racing thoughts), negative (i.e. apathy, lack of emotion, poor or nonexistant social functioning), and cognitive (disorganized thoughts, difficulty concentrating and/or following instructions, difficulty completing tasks, memory problems).


Any of those ?




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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by laiguana
I hope your children are taken away from you for their own safety. I'm afraid you might end up hurting them or worse because somewhere in the Bible or somewhere along the lines of schizophrenia, you've been told by God that you must slay them.

articles.cnn.com...:LAW



You beat me to it. Thats right its a hard disease.
Even just to diagnostic it properly its hard



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 12:16 AM
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There are no demonic forces at work here. You are so worked up by your religion that you nearly are going insane. Give up the notions that some invisible force is out to get you or your son. You are feeding this predilection!

There is no such thing as demons and you are so out of your mental jurisdiction, that you must find psychological help. Truly, I feel helplessly unable to coerce you to see a real professional.

Your are letting too many folks sway your opinion on this issue. It does not exist! Period! Get help. You are going down a path that in inevitably going to destroy you.

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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 12:17 AM
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I think Auggie was spot on with their comment on page 18. Demonic possession is typically inherited from our ancestors. Did you ever stop and wonder why bloodlines are so important in the history of earth and especially to the aristocracy? It is because the most richest and powerful families in this world are actually being controlled by the most powerful demons in the spiritual world. Since not every demon is powerful enough to control the most important people, there is a hierachry similar to our world where the less powerful demons have to settle for regular people or simple pawns.

Parents with demons are used by them to influence their children at a young age to become mentally, emotionally, and spiritually in sync with the type of demons that are associated with the family. It is a great deception to think that all demons are like what you see in the exorcist or stupid horror movies. They are as diverse in terms of personality and goals as we are as humans.

My father's demons were angry, hostile, violent, argumentative, and liked to curse. I would say these are the type of low level demons that are depicted commonly in movies. Like so, he tried to prep my siblings and I to be just like him so that we could be in sync to host some of them. Eventually humans die so demons will always need new bodies and they prefer the best they can get. Sounds like your son is an ideal host.

Your son will have to fight for his spiritual freedom and you will have to help him and focus on getting yourself right as well. If you keep harboring negative or evil thoughts, you will not be much help to your son.

It is never too early for children to start building a relationship with God. My mother took my siblings and I to church every week and kept coaching us to be good people and obey God. I struggled for many years between the negative spiritual and emotional forces that were after me and the opposite righteous way of life. My brother did not make it and sucuumbed to their forces. Close to the end he began to hear voices and experiencing unexplained paralysis. I believe the only difference between him and I is that he rejected God and wanted to improve his life by his own will. I realized that I could not survive without God and prayed and fasted for him to deliver me from evil. God's presence is with me and I pray that you will seek him out not just for the sake of protection, but for the benefit of your eternal life.

I would also like to point out that my grandmother was raised by an evil step mother who practiced witchcraft abused her badly physically, mentally, and emotionally. My grandmother has always felt that she was cursed. It might have been the reason why my mother ended up or attracted to my father. My mother has consistently said that my father appeared to be normal until the day they moved into the house they bought after getting married. When they moved in there was a tenant who was practicing witchcraft in second half of the house. So its pretty hard to elevate yourself out of the demonic world when their are strong ancestral ties. I find that most of the people I meet have severe spiritual problems. It's either because demons are attracted to my family'ss energy or I am just more aware of their presence and influence in the lives of regular people because of my life experiences. I don't know.
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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 12:25 AM
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Migraines can include hallucinations:



Complex. Any recognizable imagery such as faces, people, landscapes, panoramic vistas, animals, inanimate objects, cartoons, etc.

-www.migraine-aura.org... index_en.html


There are other sources of migraines that US doctors don't commonly recognize. I had migraines for years that stemmed from having Celiac's disease. I was diagnosed with everything under the sun, including hypochondria, until a pharmacist recommended a strict elimination diet and we found it. I haven't had a headache in 8 months (or any of my other symptoms).

The elimination diet I did started me on rice only for 1-2 days, then slowly added salad vegetables - cucumber, carrots (all raw). One thing at a time. For me, I felt better within 24 hours, and when we added in something with flour on about day 7, it was a night-day difference.

Not all food problems (mine is auto-immune!) can be diagnosed with allergy tests.

I'm not saying he has C's, just saying there are other options that US doctors ignore.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 01:13 AM
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Well this thrad struck me

I live in Colroado. I have issues.
It's from the surrounding corrupt culture.
Life is real yo, and feelings are for purpose.

Your son was made the way he is for a very special reason.
Chemical imbalance*? NOPE! It's for a reason. Life is fragile

I moved to a very small town after living in denver for several years. I had to get away from all teachings, coorporations*, civilization. Most of my problems still exist, but can cope in a very peaceful way, due to that there is nobody around to judge me wrongly, which is pure EVIL!

Denver is powerful, EXTREME to say the least.

Life is just very fragile. EVIL exist, DEMONS are real. WE ALL STRUGGLE, some have a special power of "realization of evilness"

It's time for change, to be a father. LOVE PEACE, STREGNTH.

I RABBLE




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