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Opinions needed about demonic forces regarding my son who is only 7.

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 04:42 AM
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You probably won't like this reply, but if you carry on like this your child will probably be taken into care by child protection services.

Act in the interest of your child, not your beliefs.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 04:55 AM
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Originally posted by ampar84
EDIT AGAIN because it seems nobody is READING the post... we have seen NUMEROUS doctors and specialists. We have had multiple MRI's performed. A CT scan and an EEG. All normal. He's not diabetic, or anything else. Perfectly normal, happy go lucky kid. I am mostly just curious about demonic forces with these types of scenarios. In NO WAY am I trying to blame satan for all the bad things in my life. Or this specific health issue. But when I take a step back, there just seems to be a lot of correlations between his father and what he went through and what my son is now going through. I will stick to what the doctors are telling us and I have not brought up anything spiritual to the doctors. I am not on here seeking medical advice! Just looking for opinions about supernatural influences. Also, my sons father and I were never married. We do not live together.
edit on 27-4-2011 by ampar84 because: Edit again



The best thing for you to do is avoid asking members here on ATS for any sort of "advice".

You will get mostly screwball answers that will leave you more anxious than you already are and solve nothing.

Everyone is an anonymous computer-chair expert with no real qualifications.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:04 AM
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edit on 29-4-2011 by egregor because: duplicated post



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:07 AM
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Hi,
I had similar experience with my son which is now 7 years old too - 4 years ago. Nightmares, seizures, bad moods, non-provoked crying for as long as hour etc. We used to go to best specialist in the country in Neurology, Psychiatry, made a lot of tests like EEG - and nothing. All was normal. My godmather proposed to go to one woman which practiced Reiki healing. I talked with her by phone and described the situation - she just said " OK, I know what is that just come with the boy here (in one small city some 150 km away). In that time I was very sceptic
regarding spiritual, religious and occultic staff, since we live in former comunict country where all this was forbidden. My wife insisted to try this variant.
I'll try shrotly to explain what happened after that. Reiki master lady took the kid in her knees and very calmly started to sak him about the reason for his nightmares. He started very clearly and in details to explain that he sees some serpents, but large and colourfull. He described that sometimes he sees that he is a man with big yellow shirt and walks toward big building with red ceramic roof and in bushes along the road there are these serpents. Reiki lady said in summary that he probably had a kind of birth failure and the soul didnt integrated well in the body and 3-rd eye is not closed completely. Indeed his birt was tough with alot of complications. Then a ritual for resolving that issue was performed (at that moment it was fully rudiculous for me) and we went home. After that day all the problems dissapeared instantly! I was so impressed that soon after wards performed Reiki initiation with this lady.
Some troubles with characther of tjhe boy remained - he ws naughty, oposite to everything, hard to communicate. 2 adjustment procedures with clay melting (not sure for the term) was performed and now (for one year already) everithing is fine.
Sorry if my English wasn't the best



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:14 AM
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Diet is too strict for a 7 year old, let your kid have a normal diet like all the other kids, that way he dosen't have to be too scared to tell his mom everything he eats.
Try to know more about what he sees or to whom he's talking to when it happens.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:20 AM
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Ma'am, I'd hate to confirm your fears, but demons are ALWAYS the work of Satan. You may or may not be able to accept the truth I am about to reveal to you, but please consider it in your heart. I will do my best to pass on to you what I know as Truth.

You say you are Catholic, so you must believe in Jesus Christ. He died on the cross for your sins, and was resurrected from the dead in three days. God raised him up to heaven, and he is now living at the right hand of God. What is important is this: you have also been raised up with him!

Ephesians 2:6, "And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus"
Colossians 2:10, "and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority."

You are saved through faith in Jesus Christ. In the same way, you have authority over Satan by faith - by believing in the Promise of God.

Luke 10:19, "I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you."

Do you believe it is NOT God's will for your son to be in pain? Do you believe you are God's child? Apply this truth to yourself! Give a prayer with your son, a confession of the power and authority that you have in the Name of Jesus! Bind that evil spirit, and it will be gone!

Matthew 18:18, "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
James 4:7, "Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."

Also, take a look at how Jesus handled an evil spirit in these accounts:

Matthew 17:14-23
Mark 9:14-32
Luke 9:37-45


Peace and grace be with you, and may God the Father watch over you.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 05:57 AM
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I have studied the occult and yes demons are very real but so are the angels.

This is not about anything you have done in the past or sins etc. Before a person is possessed demons will usually work on them over time.

To protect yourself pray to the arch angel michael as he is the one who will battle with them and protect you. Demons do not like insense. Burn some insense in your house, this is also called smudging. It is the closest thing you will get to clensing by fire. If your son shows physical symptoms put him under running water in the shower as this is also a cleansing element.

Most priests are crap at excorsism, if it comes to it your best bet is to find an occultist who can banish the entity or you could try performing the LBRP (lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram) yourself if you google it.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 06:15 AM
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It's true what you give attention to will grow, both spiritual and scientific, wether they are considered real or not. The things we do and repeat strenghtens the connections in the brain between neurons while those unused become weaker overtime. Think about demons, you use the wrong neurons and those get stronger, think about angels and you use the good neurons and those will get stronger. Even adult brains still reform their connections as recent scientific studies shows, I'm mentioning this because many people still believe a brain stops growing or loses the ability to change after a certain age, which is not true.

You keep the image of demonic forces in your mind and this image will just become stronger every time you think of it, establishing a stronger presence in your mind, like what you said it comes back 3 times stronger. Even if you try and fight this, your brain will just create new connections to something it shouldn't. With what you said about you believe you're not strong enough to deal with it, this is also repeated each time the subject comes up in the mind only enforcing your own self image of being weak. Once you understand your own power or force and focus on that it will become stronger, the brain doesn't recognize what thoughts will lead to the good or the bad, it's just flesh, it's the spirit or life force that the flesh sustains (you) that can make these choices, the flesh just does whatever the spirit believes is right.

So try not to give attention to any demonic forces but instead focus on your own force, if anything keep thinking of angels instead of demons. Wear some amulet to remind you of that, give your son some kind of object which represents good he can focus on whenever he feels he needs to. Other than that good luck.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 06:29 AM
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Ive been involved with demonology for many many years, since the early 90's.

Ive worked with priests and seen exorcisms etc, you name it.

Normally comes from people playing with Ouija boards.

This doesn't sound like something diabolical in my opinion, but you do have to be careful with mood changes and knockings etc, try not to encourage or recognize it in anyway.






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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 06:57 AM
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i feel you will be ok and your son too. I havent read everyones reply...however the first question i will ask is this: is your son above all, a happy person?

If so good.

When i was growing up...around the time i turned 13, i started to hear/reieve voices in my head that caused me great distress. i also prior to that, used to get migraines.

When i was 14 i got braces ti fix and over-bite and some teeth (eye) that had to be removed. Before my dental treatment, my jaw used to crack all the time and i had an overbite. After i had my braces removed at 16, the braces and over bite - gone. The jaw cracking - gone. The migraines- gone.

Now back to the voices i would hear. My aunty, my mum's only sister, was diagnosed with Schizophrenia at the age of 14 and to this day is still impaired by it and has been living in care. I was always conscious of this...so when i started hearing unwanted voices, as soon as i hit puberty or age 13, i became quite scared and distressed. I did not want to suffer the same fate as my Aunty. I would fight these unwanted thoughts. The voices would be as simple as ' Satan posses me' and immediately when i would hear this... I would suffer an anxiety attack and be so scared of being taken over. oMG... I would be so distressed and scared. I didnt understand where this came from. All i knew was that this wasnt normal and not something i wanted to happen. I remember saying to my mum, i hear voices in my head and she said...just ignore them. So i came up with an internal counter attack...'satan be gone in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, i command you to leave'. Now i am not to this day an religious person. but back then as a teenager...sayinf this in my head gave me great comfort. I was determind to not end up like my Aunty.

What caused my Aunty to become Schizo? She was bully severely in school. She was egged and locked up in her locker...after that my grandparents sais she changed.

I too was bullied mentally at high school by girls. One minute they were my friends...the next they turned on me. I to this day do not know why.

What i can say is this...for some reason i felt that part of my journey durinf that time was Karma related and i felt that perhaps i was taking on some Karma from the family. I battled internally through it all. I have come out the other end successfully. I am 33 now. It took from 13 to my late twenties to battle this internally. to me... The voices were always foreign...always seemed like not a part of me... So i battled and fought them. I am no longer bothered by them. I no longer hear them. Whatever they were, i felt they would feed off my fear. Now i am strong, and they know it...so i have fought some family karma.

In answer to your son. Remain positibe for him. If he indicates he is hearing things, is in distress by it...tell him to ignore them, to be strong. Also get your sons teeth and bite and jaw line checked out for the migraines.



 
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by raip11sniper
Demons are real and your priest will not think you are crazy. It is common for demons to haunt people do to their being occult activities in their family or due to the sins of their ancestors.


The priest will agree since otherwise his religion goes to crap, he is supposed to be one of the bigger believers...
Religion is a lie lets stop this nonsense.

Morals dont come from religion but within so lets stop the lie.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by ampar84
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Question! You are the second person to ask if I had any occult relics in my home. What exactly qualifies as that. Some peoples opinions say that anything in the home that isn't strictly Christian is satanic. I, being a strong Catholic don't have anything of that sort in my home. Nor have I ever played with a ouiji board. I grew up religious, so I always knew not to mess with that stuff. I hate horror movies and books and violent games. So... what else could it be? Anything secular? I listen to secular music. Watch secular TV, etc.


Sorry, I haven't read the entire thread - my bad, I am under some time constraints. Have you talked to a priest about these issues? I would continue medical care as everyone else suggests but also make sure you speak to a priest and voice your concern. See if you can get a priest to come to your house and pray over your son, and bless your house.

Also - pray the rosary, put one in your child's room.

I think that if mental illness runs in the family, perhaps there is a chemical imbalance that is happening - but to be safe, please consult a priest.

I was raised Catholic, my mother is a devout Catholic - but I am pretty much agnostic these days. Being from such a strong Catholic background and family - if what you describe was happening to my son, I would consult a priest.

Peace.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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Just wanted to say be very careful with the ibuprofen. I spent twelve miserable days in the hospital with renal failure due to overuse of ibuprofen. I did permanent damage to my kidneys. I know that it works exceedingly well on migraines. For me it was a miracle drug and was more effective than any prescription medication at knocking them down, and my migraines were so bad they resembled strokes. It kept me on my feet and working, but it is a lot more dangerous than people realize, and in my case was masking other serious issues.

I am well now, thankfully. Good luck and I am holding a positive thought for you both.
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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I have done battle with many forms of demons,this paticular entity your describing sounds like a body snatcher....sounds rediculous i know but there is in fact certain types of evil spirits who torment the living through negative forces,as they weaken there pray through negative energy,they then attach themself to the victim bit by bit consuming the victims spirit to a point where the victim can be overtaken by the evil will of the entity prayer helps,but some cases you may need a little more help,show no fear,show no anger,show no hate,for it is these dark emotions and thoughts feed this monster even more power.Stand firm against this force without fear or hatred,call upon the lord jesus christ ask him to remove the evil from you,ask of jesus lord Through his father god in heaven to release you,your child from the binds and snares of satan,Absolutely show no negative emotion when you do this,this includes fear,hatred,jealousy,self doubt,feeling sorry for yourself,all these thoughts are mana for the dark ones. Hope this advoce may help you in some way sincerely- Rev. Jackson Brown
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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I know this sounds random, but what about directing love towards a demon? I have heard this recommended before. Sort of like neutralizing a negative charge with a positive. Probably too simplistic to work.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:18 AM
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There is another way. What your son needs is a blessing. Now, I'm LDS/Mormon, which is Christian related, and so far it has improved my life.

What your son has when he has those "seizures" is a dark one trying to get a hold of him. They can be called shadows, the fallen ones, the followers of Satan, ect. and they don't want to let go their prey. They will rip up anyone because they long for something they missed out on in their first estate. So right now, imagine someone was jealous of you and they try to get what you have, this is the same way with the dark ones but X5 on the jealousy scale.

As well when you say that your son sees shadows in the corner of his eye or hears someone scratching or knocking, that means he's more spiritually in-tune, which works as a double-edge sword.

The good, he knows what's in there with him

The bad, They know he can hear them, and see them.

You can ask if you want more information.
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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Hi.. Just want to let you know that a random stranger on the other side of the world really cares... don't send your kid to any more doctors, chances are he will get sick from the tests.. and don't listen to anyone that says crap about mental illness..

I am studying the Kabbalah.. the same Jewish wisdom and magic that Jesus himself studied... Psalm 91 is regarded as the most potent protection spell on the planet, more powerful than any voodoo or black magic. Type or write the words out on a piece of paper and have your son carry it on his person and also recite the words to this Psalm loudly can clearly, focusing on every word. Do it as many times a day as you can.. every waking moment if you have to.. I have never felt anything like what i felt when I learnt this Psalm and recited it over and over.. If you do this, you will have God's protection...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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I can't believe this is still going.

two options, take him to a doctor see if there is anything wrong besides puberty or physical or mental issues or go exorcism.

done, no more, do the things you can do first and when you run out of option then come to a public forum which is just personal believes or personal research.
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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Something else to try:

I get migraines sometimes, too. I used to get them a lot more when I was a teenager. It turned out to be repressed anger in my case.

Journaling helped me tremendously. Feelings need to be let out, or else they can really hurt you. They recently did a study that suggests that emotional and physical pain are almost identical in the body. They are caused by the same neurons firing, etc.

Source: articles.latimes.com...

Muscle Tension / Anger are my migraine triggers. Though, occasionally I get one from changing my routine or eating habits drastically. What could be going on in the home / family / school that might be causing your son to experience tremendous stress or anxiety? Is he angry about something? You may not be aware of his anger; he may not be aware of his anger, but it needs to be released.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Cody




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