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Holy Mother!!! I have Proof the Birth Certificate Has Been Edited!!!!!

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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That's not my hand

Lets try this again, here is a visual explanation.



Click this link to see it clearly as a whole from MSNBC.




This means the white house version is not the original and the original may not even be authentic

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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by brilab45
I'm in the "I don't care" category. Regardless of Oboma's birthplace, he has changed America fundamentally on a level that forgoes race.

America needed that important step for us to get past the idiocy of race.

I'm with Arnold S. Does it really matter where the president came from? We live in a very small world.

If the president is qualified by his or her resume and has the interests of Americans at hearts............who cares?

Looking forward to Ron Paul as our next POTUS. However, I am not put off if the next president is Chinese.

This premise that we need to be full blooded Americans is silly to me. We are a fast paced world. Who cares!



Yes, it matters where the POTUS came from. If Arnold wants to be president of something, let it be where he came from. Otherwise, I'm taking over China. They need help. If you have spiritual values, they put a hole in your head. Especially so if you have healthy organs. Or use anti-carcinogenic herbs.

The only reason arnold is not at this moment potus is because God and nature snowed the frack out of the continent two seconds after he started in with the climate change global warming crap, as his intro. He even had to cancel his global warming conference. Wake the frack up.
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 01:23 AM
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The copy with the white background is obviously a bad photo-copy. The seal is there on the left hand border as someone already pointed out. Light tones disappear when you photo-copy images with the wrong contrast setting. I've seen it a million times before.
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 03:10 AM
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Where is that one post that has a lot of stars that says this is true or not? Ahh im not in my happy place on ats anymore



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 03:24 AM
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My post will not respond to anyone directly, but I will state the following considerations of my juxta. I have not checked as to whether or not anyone has stated this already - but I do not care to check. Further to this, I have chosen to reply in this thread based solely on that it was at the top of the list of most current threads..

Anywho.. back to the point.

Has anyone ever thought that perhaps the certificate is in fact real and then pieced together just to play with the minds of 'conspiracy theorists'? Perhaps there is a logic in creating a divide in the group. Divide and conquer? Anyone ever heard of that maxim before? Jeeze..

I think it is of relevance. It is at this point in which I will separate myself from conspiracy theorists. It has gotten too silly now and ignorance is great - of course referring to the maxim of ATS "Deny ignorance". Some claim to be awake, but what kind of awake are you if you are blind to the many varying possibilities of anything and everything? Consideration must be given to everything, yet the close-mindedness of some being displayed especially within the realm of the birther issue is grotesque. I was not a personal fan of Obama, but believe that he has pulled a rabbit out of a hat just to tease the idiocy of some. That alone makes me fond of him. Of course the birth certificate is real. You are being played like the keys of a piano. Take that in what ever fashion you may.

How much time has been spent on researching this birther issue? Could the time not perhaps have been devoted to something of a good cause, be it in your own life or to contribute to the lives of others in need? The world needs good people. Step outside. Enjoy the summer sun mixed in with the radiation.

One thing I have noted is that there is a loss of balance. Stop clutching at straws.


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edit on 28-4-2011 by whatdahill because: I ran out of toilet paper.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 03:27 AM
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Im not sure why people are flocking to prove this is fake, even if it is proven fake, he's still the president and still did whatever he was put into the White House to do....It really makes no difference now.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 03:48 AM
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I find interesting that the family of the doctor who's name appears on the BC, didn't know anything about this. Apparently, the son at least, was quite surprised.

www.newser.com...

They have attested that the signature is their dad's, however. I am curious about the timing of this release.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 03:59 AM
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You and many other people this morning



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 04:21 AM
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One thing I can not believe on internet is about paper prints. specially as you are showing it as a photo , not even as piece of video file ( I wouldn't believe that neither )

regards.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by Nobama
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Im not sure why people are flocking to prove this is fake, even if it is proven fake, he's still the president and still did whatever he was put into the White House to do....It really makes no difference now.


How bout you fake your own BC and go to Lockheed Martin and let them vet you for high security clearance on their defense contracts, and see where you get with it. Then come back and tell us why it's not important if the sitting POTUS fakes his BC. Or are you trying to say that no one will do anything even if it's fake and all the stuff he did while NOT really POTUS would still be legitimate? All the EO's he's signes as non-POTUS would still be in operation?
Then of course if he was arrested for forgery and whatever else they could drum up, Joe Biden would be next in line. ( No one wants that I think) (and besides, Joe co sponsored that stupid Global Poverty Act with Barry in the Senate and it would still be the same agenda different person).
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 04:27 AM
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I also see that there is not attendant name printed on Obama's. Would they be consistent?



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by aero56
reply to post by clearmind
 


I find interesting that the family of the doctor who's name appears on the BC, didn't know anything about this. Apparently, the son at least, was quite surprised.

www.newser.com...

They have attested that the signature is their dad's, however. I am curious about the timing of this release.


Oh brother! The family says it distracts from all the issues. Well well isnt that just handy.

Personally, I think Barry wants it to go away so he can get on with trashing our country and turning it into a European Socialist Utopia like all the libs want.
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by brilab45
I'm in the "I don't care" category. Regardless of Oboma's birthplace, he has changed America fundamentally on a level that forgoes race.

America needed that important step for us to get past the idiocy of race.

I'm with Arnold S. Does it really matter where the president came from? We live in a very small world.

If the president is qualified by his or her resume and has the interests of Americans at hearts............who cares?

Looking forward to Ron Paul as our next POTUS. However, I am not put off if the next president is Chinese.

This premise that we need to be full blooded Americans is silly to me. We are a fast paced world. Who cares!



You don't care that we might have an illegal president in the White House?



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Personally, I think Barry wants it to go away so he can get on with trashing our country and turning it into a European Socialist Utopia like all the libs want.
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Because it has really been getting in his way so far, right?
Birthers really do have a delusional sense of self importance. You all seem to think you are doing something, accomplishing something, and have so far gotten something done. I keep checking. Obama is still chugging right along.

Just imagine what you could accomplish had you spent all this time coming up with solutions to the countries problems. You guys might have been able to produce a candidated to beat Obama. As it is, the best you have is Trump and he just quit your team.
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 05:32 AM
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From reading the multiple other threads on this topic, the story goes something like.

- 50 years ago, birth certificate on plain paper, placed into big book.
- Some time later, scanned and placed onto microfische.
- This month, hospital records person scans the microfische, manually cleans up a few dots and crap that always get in from the scanning process, prints it onto the green textured paper, adds the stamp and date, and gives this paper copy to the Whitehouse.
- Whitehouse scan it in (using software that automatically fragments it while trying to be too clever for its own good) and put it onto the web site.
- People on ATS go nuts.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 06:08 AM
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How about someone explain to me this,

Why is Obama's birth on the 4th, her mom doesn't sign for it until 3 friggin days later, and then the person supposedly attending and witness to the birth doesn't sign it until the day of registrar's entry, 4 days later. (attendant doesn't even know if he is an M.D. or not)
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Nobama
reply to post by Justice2012
 


Im not sure why people are flocking to prove this is fake, even if it is proven fake, he's still the president and still did whatever he was put into the White House to do....It really makes no difference now.


The thing is; If Obama was not born as a US Citizen.
Then all he have signed, as President of U.S.A., would become invalid.
And that, would be a heck of a lot that would be need to be reversed.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by alfa1
From reading the multiple other threads on this topic, the story goes something like.

- 50 years ago, birth certificate on plain paper, placed into big book.
- Some time later, scanned and placed onto microfische.
- This month, hospital records person scans the microfische, manually cleans up a few dots and crap that always get in from the scanning process, prints it onto the green textured paper, adds the stamp and date, and gives this paper copy to the Whitehouse.
- Whitehouse scan it in (using software that automatically fragments it while trying to be too clever for its own good) and put it onto the web site.
- People on ATS go nuts.


As far as my image editing experience goes.
Your description fits 100% of how the "new" green certificate have been created.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Tephra
How about someone explain to me this,

Why is Obama's birth on the 4th, her mom doesn't sign for it until 3 friggin days later, and then the person supposedly attending and witness to the birth doesn't sign it until the day of registrar's entry, 4 days later. (attendant doesn't even know if he is an M.D. or not)
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I don't have an answer but I can tell you that we didn't sign our daughter's birth certificate until it was time to leave the hospital, a whole 2 days after she was born, because we waited till the last minute to decide on her middle name.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Nobama
reply to post by Justice2012
 


Im not sure why people are flocking to prove this is fake, even if it is proven fake, he's still the president and still did whatever he was put into the White House to do....It really makes no difference now.


That's when my tired eyes beheld

A doggy dog! Like dog he smelled.

D-O-G is what he spelled.

And that's how I spell...

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