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The Ultimate Weapon

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posted on Jul, 29 2004 @ 05:20 AM
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Project Skyfall: (just go with it
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Find appropriate comets, meteors, or asteroids in our system that come close to Earth.

Once an appropriate selection is made, a military space journey is undertaken.

The mission is to rendezvous with the appropriate body of rock, stabilize rotation, and mount propulsion devices.

The space rock is now the ultimate weapon.

An exact trajectory is programmed into the computer that controls the manuevering. Once fired, the projectile will head toward Earth. It will impact on or near the capital of an enemy country or region.

The government that launched the space rock will never be discovered. They can have complete deniability. The destruction of North Korea, or Iran, or Syria, was simply an act of Nature.

Or, the country that discovers the approaching rock could stage a space mission to 'rescue the world.' Of course the mission would be largely staged, as they already have the maneuvering capability on the rock itself to deflect it. It could be a great propaganda victory.

And, the best part: Anyone who says a country deliberately fired a space rock at the Earth is a wild conspiracy freak!




posted on Jul, 29 2004 @ 05:23 AM
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The only problem is that a rock large enough to wipe out a capital city will also have effects on the rest of the world. Earthquakes, Tidal Waves, all that dust may cause a nuclear winter. etc etc etc



posted on Jul, 29 2004 @ 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by FredT
The only problem is that a rock large enough to wipe out a capital city will also have effects on the rest of the world. Earthquakes, Tidal Waves, all that dust may cause a nuclear winter. etc etc etc



Well you can't make an omelet without cracking some eggs. What's a little dust compared to wiping out a sub-continent? China could say "Bye, Tawain!" Russia could say "Hasta la vista, Chechnya." The US could say "Sayanora, North Korea."



posted on Jul, 29 2004 @ 08:43 AM
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there allready plans for kinetic energy weapons from space but they work different and without astroids ect.



posted on Jul, 29 2004 @ 08:46 AM
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Besides, how would you attach thrusters to somehing that is traveling in excess of 25,000 mph? Wouldn't that be sorta difficult?



posted on Jul, 29 2004 @ 01:26 PM
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... and then Richard Pryor could attach the thrusters and Lex Luthor could make sure it's really made of kryptonite!



posted on Jul, 29 2004 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by bzap
Besides, how would you attach thrusters to somehing that is traveling in excess of 25,000 mph? Wouldn't that be sorta difficult?


Well, if you're going 25,000 mph then the asteroid seems like it's going 0.



posted on Jul, 30 2004 @ 04:36 PM
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you wouldnt have enough thrust to move the rock



posted on Jul, 30 2004 @ 06:13 PM
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Yeah, become the biggest murder ever in the history of mankind, wow amazing, what an achievement. You really waste your mind/life thinking about stuff like that as if it's ok? How old are you, 9?

Jayyyzuuus. War-perv alert or what?

(Hopefully there is a little bit of 'big brother' to all this net stuff and the authorities have 'become aware of your psychosis)

[edit on 30-7-2004 by sminkeypinkey]



posted on Jul, 30 2004 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Yeah, become the biggest murder ever in the history of mankind, wow amazing, what an achievement. You really waste your mind/life thinking about stuff like that as if it's ok? How old are you, 9?

Jayyyzuuus. War-perv alert or what?

(Hopefully there is a little bit of 'big brother' to all this net stuff and the authorities have 'become aware of your psychosis)

[edit on 30-7-2004 by sminkeypinkey]


Hi... You've never met anyone who works ing the defense industry huh? This is NOTHING compared to some brainstorm weapons I've heard of.

How about a neutron bomb... kills the organics...leave no radiation. Makes a great tool for taking over space, just wipes out all the people (and other organism). This one is currently function and in the US arsenal...China might have it too.

Or how about biological weapons?

These things don't grow on trees, they grow in brains. And then people build them and sell them to the government.

He hardly sounds like he is 9...though if he is, he has a bright future in defense if he sticks with school.



posted on Jul, 30 2004 @ 08:44 PM
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Play nice in the sandpit...or I'm afraid we might have to revoke your toys...


Interesting idea. Would be an effective weapon IF it could be perfected/directed as you suggest. One problem however may be that these types of 'celestial bodies' are well tracked and watched by many an 'astro-buff', watching the skies and plotting the course of such objects...so I'd suspect the change of direction of the object would raise a few questions surely.


Peace,
ALIEN



posted on Jul, 30 2004 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by alien
Play nice in the sandpit...or I'm afraid we might have to revoke your toys...


Interesting idea. Would be an effective weapon IF it could be perfected/directed as you suggest. One problem however may be that these types of 'celestial bodies' are well tracked and watched by many an 'astro-buff', watching the skies and plotting the course of such objects...so I'd suspect the change of direction of the object would raise a few questions surely.


Peace,
ALIEN


Well, the only thing you have to protect is public minds. So if an astro buff ever noticed asteroid X39385 moving in a new trajectory, no one's really going to care until they hear it's heading for Earth. The fact that it's trajectory actually changed can be spun away with the glare of the fact that it's going to hit the Earth. "The President doesn't know how the asteroid changed direction, or if it even really did. The President does know it's headed for Earth and that's the problem we're focusing on."



posted on Jul, 30 2004 @ 09:59 PM
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you do that and like others sayed you stand the chance of wiping out the rest of the world.



posted on Jul, 30 2004 @ 10:04 PM
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Pfft.
"Space rocks"

EVERYONE KNOWS PAPER BEATS ROCK.
lol

No but really, this would be an interesting "weapon" but probably highly unpredictable and hard to aim well.

But who knows..



posted on Jul, 31 2004 @ 01:14 AM
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careful navigation through FAS.org and a link to a book being sold by the RAND institution which is called Space Weapons Earth Wars
www.rand.org...

here is a link to the meteor as weapon section

www.rand.org...

enjoy....



posted on Aug, 3 2004 @ 08:24 AM
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Never mind working out the logistics of slowing down an asteroid or comet or whatever, which is far from our capabilities.
What would be the point of doing that. The amount of money it would take to build and then maintain it would be beyond the budget of any country.

Also would other countries of the world not get a bit suspicious of another moon just appearing from nowhere? Then seeing construction occuring on it? Not to mention a huge cannon or silo on it.

To be honest, it's just a silly idea.



posted on Aug, 3 2004 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by sylicon
Never mind working out the logistics of slowing down an asteroid or comet or whatever, which is far from our capabilities.
What would be the point of doing that. The amount of money it would take to build and then maintain it would be beyond the budget of any country.

Also would other countries of the world not get a bit suspicious of another moon just appearing from nowhere? Then seeing construction occuring on it? Not to mention a huge cannon or silo on it.

To be honest, it's just a silly idea.


It's not like people are staring at all the rocks in the solar system looking for foul play.

You wouldn't have to put equipment on it, just deflected it's trajectory.

Read the FSA article, they have it way more thought out than me.



posted on Aug, 4 2004 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by taibunsuu
Project Skyfall: (just go with it
)

Find appropriate comets, meteors, or asteroids in our system that come close to Earth.

Once an appropriate selection is made, a military space journey is undertaken.

The mission is to rendezvous with the appropriate body of rock, stabilize rotation, and mount propulsion devices.

The space rock is now the ultimate weapon.

An exact trajectory is programmed into the computer that controls the manuevering. Once fired, the projectile will head toward Earth. It will impact on or near the capital of an enemy country or region.

The government that launched the space rock will never be discovered. They can have complete deniability. The destruction of North Korea, or Iran, or Syria, was simply an act of Nature.

Or, the country that discovers the approaching rock could stage a space mission to 'rescue the world.' Of course the mission would be largely staged, as they already have the maneuvering capability on the rock itself to deflect it. It could be a great propaganda victory.

And, the best part: Anyone who says a country deliberately fired a space rock at the Earth is a wild conspiracy freak!



Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Yeah, become the biggest murder ever in the history of mankind, wow amazing, what an achievement. You really waste your mind/life thinking about stuff like that as if it's ok? How old are you, 9?

Jayyyzuuus. War-perv alert or what?

(Hopefully there is a little bit of 'big brother' to all this net stuff and the authorities have 'become aware of your psychosis)

[edit on 30-7-2004 by sminkeypinkey]


x2. Dude, you shouldn't be thinking about this type of thing. Seriously.
Take into account that the billions of dollars that were spent on Americas new 'smart bombs' and their targeting systems would be effectively wasted, with the systems and technology themselves completely undermined if your new weapon idea were to be implemented. It is my understanding that it is not a common objective to 'wipe out' whole cities, killing innocent civillians, but to bomb only military and government installations and facilities...



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 10:48 PM
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Why waste all your time doing this? If you want to destroy a city or two just launch a nuke... Although, using a giant rock to destroy your apponent may be safer because they won't know who exactly put it in orbit and directed it to the enemy.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 12:13 AM
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If you did want to do this and you actually had the capabilities to go into space and land in it you would have to do alot of computer simulations and test things like is the asteroid solid and very dense and how much does it weigh or if it is kinda like a sponge (not very dense at all and has holes all around and in it. and you would have to do a carefull balance of it burning up in the atmosphere and nothing happens, to one thats no big and heavy and shoots through the atmosphere and impacts North Korea with souch force it wipes out all of North Korea and South Korea and some of Japan and so on.

Basically put. No. This would not be workable as an effective weapon, It would be unaccurate and kill millions of innocent lives.




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