US facing nuclear scare in Ohio plant?

US facing nuclear scare in Ohio plant?

news.oneindia.in

News has emerged of exceptionally high radiation levels at a nuclear reactor in northeast Ohio that has caused concern to the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The plant in question is the Perry Nuclear Power Plant that was evacuated on Apr 22 after radiation levels rose while the plant was shutting down for a refuelling outage, revealed the commission.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Apparently, the NRC have stated that:

The highest recorded radiation exposure to workers were measured at 98 millirems, which is the equivalent to two or three chest X-rays (emphasis added)

So was this alleged limit reached in the few seconds it should've took for the alarms to go off, warning the workers of the dangers?
We don't know.

They then go on to say:

...the bottom line was it did not impact the safety or health of the contractors or the public. (emphasis added)

Now, how can the equivalent of three chest X-rays have no health impact whatsoever on those receiving them??

My doctor and every other doctor I've ever met will readily attest to the fact that to even be offered just one chest X-ray, you must be in serious need of it, because it significantly increases the risk of cancer, or cancer-related problems in later life!

This facility was evacuated on the 22nd of April, but have they as of the 27th of April, managed to bring the levels back down to alleged "safe" amounts? I mean, if it was only something so minor that caused it, as they say, there will be no problem, right? Right?

The Commission started inspecting the plant from Monday and refused to divulge how high the radiation levels are and how often such are carried out. (emphasis added)

So, that would be a resounding "NO", then...

I can't help but contemplate the possibility that this could have something to do with the fact that stuxnet - the virus created by the US and israel to specifically target nuclear reactors - is being found in facilities other than where it was supposedly intended for.

Has this event got anything to do with that virus?
Probably not, but who can say for sure when the governing body that helped create the virus is the one you need to then ask?

Trying times.




news.oneindia.in
(visit the link for the full news article)

Think Perry is bad, look at the Davis-Besse plant on Ohio. In 2001 the reactor nearly blew it's lid.

These sort of incidents are tracked here;
Ohio Citizen Action

The cover-up has been described as one of the largest in U.S. nuclear history. Acid that leaked through Davis-Besse's old reactor head burned a six-inch cavity into the massive steel lid. That exposed a thin stainless-steel liner, which started to bulge and crack. Had it burst, radioactive steam would have formed in containment of a U.S. nuclear vessel for the first time since the half-core meltdown of the Three Mile Island Unit 2 reactor in Pennsylvania in 1979," Tom Henry, Toledo Blade. Published August 29th.

Penalties nixed for ex-worker at Davis-Besse

WASHINGTON, DC -- "In the most serious episode involving a U.S. nuclear plant since Three Mile Island, the Davis-Besse plant in Ohio was shut down from 2002 to 2004 after the NRC failed to spot what it acknowledges were early signs of trouble. An acid leak through the reactor vessel's lid left a quarter-inch-thick steel veneer, according to NRC reports. Because emergency pumps also were faulty, core-cooling water leaking through the ruptured lid could have led to a meltdown. The NRC identified the leak in fall 2001 but let the plant keep operating. An NRC Inspector General's report in 2002 found the agency's willingness to keep the plant running 'was driven in large part by a desire to lessen the financial impact on (plant operator FirstEnergy) that would result from an early shutdown,'" Paul Davidson, USA Today.

How risky is the new era of nuclear power?

Some scary stuff.... I'm not against nuclear power per se, just against the corruption and corner-cutting that leads to incidents like these.

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Thanks, Blackmarketeer.

One thing about your supplied information, is that it goes a way towards implying that the US facilities don't need a virus to destroy their plants...! The apparent attitude of "it can't happen here...!" seems to do the trick just as well.
Man, I don't even want to think about the fact that the US stores of spent MOX fuel rods are way bigger than those that were in the Fukushima facility...and it's only now they begin to ramp up on checking the safety of the places...sheesh.

I've got to say though, I'm dead against nuclear powerstations. For many reasons besides the health & safety aspect.

I live 5 miles west of this plant and the NRC and MSM are downplaying the threat to the general public. This plant is a disaster waiting to happen. It straddles a fault, and is constantly down due to some type of mechanical issue.

As nearly all the operating reactors are at the upper end of their lifespans these incidents will become more frequent. With no real plan to deal with the spent fuel or reactor cores, or even dealing with failed equipment (TMI) , the argument of "clean and safe" will be exposed as a monumental lie.
Can't help think that we can do better than piling fissionables up till they boil water to make power. Pretty trog if you really think about it. No real differences than 1800's steam tech.Except they must operate at zero mistake zero fail or incredible harm results. On can only pray we don't store RADIOACTIVE WASTE ON THE ROOFS OF OUR AGING REACTORS!
seed

where is this plant exactly ?? I have the northeast ohio part but....
no location is kinda strange unless i missed it .
would realy like to know I have family in that area

Originally posted by mustard seed

One can only pray we don't store RADIOACTIVE WASTE ON THE ROOFS OF OUR AGING REACTORS!

seed

.....Do I hear a collective "DOH!!!!!" - *facepalm in the distance?

Ah, it's a case of you've got to laugh else you'll cry - at the sheer stupidity and lack of any foresight whatsoever in those who thought it was an appropriate place to store their spent fuel rods.

Just to clarify for those who didn't know this, the US, like (all?) others, do store their spent fuel above the main reactors and, the US in particular, has extremely more spent fuel stored in their nuclear facilities than Fukushima ever did...

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Here you go.

It's located right next to Parmly Park on Central Road, which is off (Perry?)County Highway 112, according to Google Maps.




Due to Fukushima, many people have seemingly begun to wake up to the possible dangers and are taking steps to educate themselves as best they can to the globally devestating issues presented by such "safe" nuclear power facilities when things do go wrong and, by default, seem to also be making themselves consciously aware of the now evidently serious laxes in (costly!) safety checks these plants, in every country in the world, seem to suffer from.

I wish I could tell you you've nothing to worry about whatsoever paradiselost333, but I would consider myself to be lying if I did as, due to so much cost-cutting and clear negligence on a vast scale not limited by country, nuclear power plants are potential world destroying time-bombs just waiting to go off. Ignoring the odd radioactive leaks they all seem to get from time to time, most of which go unreported, naturally.
The fact remains that large parts of NE Japan are now completely uninhabitable and will remain so for around 25,000 years - that's TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND! years...the mind struggles to fully comprehend the true scope of that, I mean, this 'modern' civilisation we're so cocky about being a part of, is only a mere 2000 years old itself, for goodness' sake!

We're like a group of young children playing with a loaded gun - no, worse - a loaded bazooka!...we simply fail to consider the consequences of our actions, or that what we do today when we're still so 'young' and naive, will very likely come back to haunt us when (and if ) we ever reach our 'adulthood'.

I think if we survive our species will mimic ,and excuse the metaphor, the cocky young man who tempts fate for thrills and has taken his beatings doing so. As in life if we survive to "middle age" as a species we will carry the scars and aches of our youthful stupidity. Thank you for noting my irony regarding spent fuel storage IMO this is tantamount to purposely creating a dirty bomb or a serious indictment of the arrogance of this industry. Are they really so arrogant to believe putting this material above the only significant source of an explosion on a nuke site can be safely managed with a zero fail success rate?.The glaring fact is two buildings which housed spent fuel on the roof had their roofs blown completely off and not much is being said about where the spent fuel went when they blew.

Also consider that one of the reactors which blew housed MOX fuel rods which are significantly more rich in plutonium, the most poisonous substance on earth.
www.wrongdiagnosis.com...
The blown reactors represent a whole new radiation incident. They are the largest "dirty" bombs ever detonated on earth and have released as toxic particulates what is likely may times the fallout of all testing as bombs only use a few kilos of fissionable material and even given the thousands of bombs "tested" I doubt it adds up to the tons of material on the blown buildings.
As an anecdote. here in Oregon an increasing number of pleural inflammation sufferers( inflammation of the lung tissue) are occurring after rains.Some are resulting in pre-ulcerous states with bleeding tissue. I know personally 8 cases including my wife and daughter which have been diagnosed and many more which the folks are just suffering thru due to no health care.Some are claiming a bad pollen and fungal spore spring but in almost 30 yrs here I have never seen this.
seed

Thank you for this information. I regret I did not find out more about it when it happened.
These things are totally ignored by the MSM, and it's unacceptable!
It was hidden even from me for weeks....until now. That is unacceptable.

And the part that sucks, I can't do anything about it.

I can't magically make important information appear in front of me, it's totally random and I rely on other humans to bring that information to my attention. It sucks.
And I cannot magically fix the nuclear pollution problems either. I can only alert others to attempt to protect themselves.

Believe me, if I could turn into a super-hero and fly around Earth all day collecting all nuclear materials and fly them to the Sun and dump them there, I would. In a heartbeat.

But I can't. I am not magical.

I can only do one thing. Pass this information on and try to help people find answers to their questions. And to help others develop disaster response plans.

Worst part is, in real life almost no one cares or pays attention to my warnings.

Thank you for the links and info though, I will research this incident further and if I find anything relevant or updates about it I will post them in this thread also. We really need to revive the topic and get people passing this information around.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Believe me, if I could turn into a super-hero and fly around Earth all day collecting all nuclear materials and fly them to the Sun and dump them there, I would. In a heartbeat.

You are helping to spread the info. But this is another case where citizens must band together to demand action. Blackmarketeer mentioned Ohio Citizens Action, for ex.

Grassroots organizations provide a voice and offer actions one citizen can do. Grassroots organizations can provide a check on actions a corporation or govt tries to get away with.

Be aware though, that for some years now, there has been a war on grassroots organizations, labeling them Communist/socialist/Marxist/ etc, and people like James O'Keefe and Glenn Beck vilify and seek to destroy/lessen what is essentially the right of citizen to band together.

Unless the organization is connected to a corporation or conservative church, the group is deemed Communist. With this degradation and demeaning of such groups for decades, and the promotion of groups following the corporate line, giving a louder voice to corporations not people, it is little wonder we are in the mess we are in these days.

We do not have to be supermen, just citizens collectively acting together in a super voice for super strength.

I live right by this. So scary

Nuclear has to be the dumbest way to get energy ever invented.

Originally posted by paradiselost333
where is this plant exactly ??

I had no idea either, so I looked it up here:
en.wikipedia.org...

There's a small map, it's near Cleveland.

To the OP, how interesting that you had to go out of the US to get the link to a story about this incident :shk:
I don't live all that fat away, and heard nothing locally.

OFFSITE NOTIFICATION DUE TO FATALITY OF A CONTRACT EMPLOYEE "On April 29, 2011, at approximately 1100 hours, a contract employee was found unresponsive in a vehicle, off the road, inside the Perry Nuclear Power Plant owner controlled area. At 1120 hours, it was confirmed by the Perry Fire Department that the individual was deceased. Notification has been made to the Lake County Sheriffs department and the Lake County Coroner. The death does not appear to be work related or the result of an accident. A preliminary diagnosis by the coroner is the individual suffered a heart attack. The Lake County Coroner is conducting a routine investigation into the death. "A press release is not planned at this time. The individuals name has not yet been released pending notification of next-of-kin. A notification to OSHA per 29CFR1904.39 will be made for this event.

not saying this has anything to do with the high levels of radiation found at the plant but am interested if anything was in local news about this workers death and the official cause

page2rss.com/page?url=www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-c ollections/event-status/event/en.html

What if Iran reverse engineered stuxnet and is now using it on U.S. powerplants, or maybe China or Russia is doing that, just pick any of the U.S. enemies and the story is plausible.

Or it's just Israel

Originally posted by mnmcandiez
I live right by this. So scary

Nuclear has to be the dumbest way to get energy ever invented.

This. I was naieve to think containments were in place that should such malfunctions occur these reactors would be shut INSTANTLY and the problem isolated. Now it seems problem after problem gets reported from stupidly simple engineering issues. And all they can do is instead of addressing the issue, wait until the levels are safe before running the plant back-up again. I mean for ffs these are nuclear stations were talking about here, not some swimming pool that got a bit of drainage blocked.

I live in Ohio and I had no clue what so ever about this incident! Sad the MSM doesn't cover it at all...drinking water contanimated possibly??? Crops???

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Once again I must agree with you MuzzleFlash, this information MUST be kept on the Frontpage for as long as possible, even if just to make those that wish to hide it see that the questions are now starting to be asked more and more everyday.
We don't have any nuclear power stations in Namibia YET but if you google nuclear power in Namibia what is really scary are the plans for up to TEN (10) FLOATING nuclear power stations to be built and kept floating off Namibias coast, which as some here at ATS may know is called "The Skeleton Coast" because of all the shipwrecks that have occurred along the coast, and some of them have been in living memory! This cannot be a good idea!? This in a country with a population of around 2 million people, one can only ask why?