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What would it take to appease some of you Birthers? (last birther thread)

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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by micpsi

Originally posted by Skerrako
reply to post by welshbeliever
 


His birth certificate was printed on a computer.

Thus, it is scanable, but that doesn't mean it was tampered with

Oh look! when you move everything but the words, they line up too perfectly it means it was edited! No- it means it was printed from a computer

Birthers are like the U.S. economy, they've already hit the wall, just haven't realized it yet.


The very fact it was printed from a computer means it's only as good as the information in the database. That's why it is not proof - Obama's mother could have "embellished" some of the information she (or whoever) gave to the Department of Health for very good reasons (e.g., hide the fact that Obama was born in Kenya, as his grandmother says). Only the original crinkled piece of paper signed by doctors in ink will suffice. Anything else can be forged or be based upon false information.


Geddit it now?

Even this too, would be considered fake... Would it not?




posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:10 AM
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by atomicn
Did black people ever request the long form birth certificate of former president Bush? lets all masquerade and talk like this has nothing to do with his color of skin. No. Because he is a "Muslim", a "terrorist" a "racist" a "communist", a "socialist".

All which Obama has been called.

"birthers" code word for "racist"


the only people who seem to be towing this line, are the non-birthers.

i have yet to see anybody deemed a "birther" even so much as mention race.

*open challenge*: please link me to any commernt from a so-called "birther" basing their views off of race.

you have the entire website. ready set go.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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HEY EVERYONE: LOOK!

www.guardian.co.uk...




A memo dated August 31, 1961 from William Wood of Immigration and Naturalization Services indicates that Barack Obama, Sr, was attending the University of Hawaii on a student visa and that a son, Barack Obama, II, was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961.


The article talks about Obama's father and mother, but I cut out the important part for those I know will be too lazy to read the entire article

ATS thread HERE
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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Back up one page. I made at least 2, count em 2 posts without race involved, and for the record I am not a birther nor a non-birther. I am a realist. A dying breed in this once Great country. Hell I didnt even realize he was black.

edit on 28-4-2011 by regor77 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:24 AM
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dude, everyone is racist. it's hardwired into us. it's why you think it's gross to mate with another species. it's why tribal villages are not the most diverse places. it's an outdated survival mechanism, left over from a time when there was no global communication and you truly did not know the intent or character of other humans you might meet in the wild. if a tribe with different skin color attacks your village, you will fear the next person you see with that skin color. a statement like "most white people are not racist" is monumentally ignorant. a true 21st century Human Being can recognize their more base, primal instincts and train themselves to rise above preconceived notions. if you can't see that the birther movement stems from your own "fear of the unknown" then I feel sorry for your blood line, as it will be evolved out of the species in a matter of generations.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:25 AM
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Back up one page. I made at least 2, count em 2 posts without race involved, and for the record I am not a birther nor a non-birther. I am a realist.


Same here buddy, this whole thing is a sham, I don't even know why Im wasting breath on it, but I figured I would give it a try.

The majority of my posts don't bring up race either, because it normally devolves into a cesspool of name calling, but just like race was a reason he was elected (I am black and believe me I know dozens of family and friends that voted for him to see the "1st black president") I believe there is a race element to this as well. We shouldn't deny that. But we also should not harp on it because no one on here could prove it i=even if we talked for days. So it's better off that we don't mention it at all and just focus on the facts. (which birthers seem to have a hard time doing :lol



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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"dude, everyone is racist. it's hardwired into us. it's why you think it's gross to mate with another species. it's why tribal villages are not the most diverse places."

WOW! This couldn't be more wrong. I'm married to a black woman and I am deeply offended.

Also, the ONLY thing (and I mean the ONLY ONLY ONLY thing) that would appease birthers is that Obama stepped up and said "Hey guys, guess what? I was born in Kenya." It's the ultimate goal OF ALL CONSPIRACISTS. It's the same with ALL conspiracies. What would appease all of the people that believe 9/11 was staged?? That the government stepped up and said they were responsible and that they will be punished severely because of it. It's a conspiracy. Take it for what it is. The very bottom line is, OBAMA IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. So let's try to focus on more important issues!!!!!
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Drala
YOU SHOULD OFFER TO CLOSE THIS THREAD>>>YOU KNOW THE HOSPITAL WAS NAMED WRONG? NAME WAS CHANGED IN 1978... his BC has the 1978 name not the 1961 name....its getting overwhelming that this thread should be your "ANTI_BIRTHER" last thread...lol YOU SAID IT, SHOE IS ON OTHER FOOT NOW...its layered, when you zoom in some of the lettering pixelates and some does not, and the hospital name is 17 years in the future...COME ON LOL...took him how long to produce it?


While I don't know what I believe as of yet, the hospital name has been shown as right, as per an earlier post (pg 1?) It shows the BC's of twin girls born the day after and the hospital name is the same as BHO's. That being said, why does the background go straight across when it was clearly made to look like a scanned copy. Shouldn't the background "bend" like the paper?



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by xavi1000
One of the most greatest human features is when you admit when you are wrong .

Birthers , post here and admit and let this be the last birther thread !!!
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In my mind, what is great about human beings is that we do question, and wonder, and try to make logical sense out of things that sometimes have no logic behind them.......You honestly think what makes people great is being able to admit when you're wrong?

My dog admits when its wrong, but her little brain cannot wrap itself around the notion of people wanting to know who the hell this shadowy character is who is representing us globally, and basically holding our lives in the balance.

Clearly many human beings are more in tune with my puppy than they are with people who are not content with asking simple questions and not getting simple answers.
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:41 AM
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Clinton lied about a BJ! Bush stole the election in Florida! Obama was born in Kenya!

Do you people feel stupid, yet?

Because you should. Your country is being run into the ground, and none of you birthers OR non-birthers will ever do anything about it because you're all more concerned with the smokescreens than you are with the issues.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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That's bull. I'm sick of people saying anything against Obama being called racist. Seriously, how lazy is your mind? It must be pretty lazy to assume that his nationality/color is the reason he is ever attacked. I'm just amazed. I happened to reply to your post, but you are not the only one who thinks like this. I am responding to all who think like you on this issue.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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It is not about his actual identity, it is so the white elite, gasping their last breath, can say he isn't their president. This has nothing to do with validity, it all has to do with not wanting to accept what their fellow countryman elected.
It is a sign of the changing America, and they don't like it.
So instead, they crucify it under the gaurd of denouncing his legitimacy, by denying his birthright.

and it is the most unpatriotic, embarrassing thing they can do.

So until there is a time machine built and they can witness the birth themselves, they will deny him the Presidency until another white guy is elected.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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So now you are claiming that the President was born in Nigeria? What happened to Kenya? Could you please at least try to keep your paranoid racist delusions straight.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by dakota1s2
No! This snapshot of a so called long form BC won't do for me. To much other evidence leaning otherwise is out here. For example why does it take two years to release it? Why has Nigerian officials stated he was born there?
Obviously now there is a little evidence, but meeting the eligibility requirement has been rediciously low, covered up by a partisan MSM, and If the Donald had gotten the evidence--not CNN-- it would be more beliveable.

No, I will remain skeptical until he releases all transcripts, documents, and any other evidence that he is a natural born citizen, including his transcripts from all schools he attended. I will not believe Obama is not hiding something He's stonewalled for two years. Sorry but I remain suspicious.

By the way, remember all the hullaballu about John McCain not being a citizen? His parents were both US citizens and were in the Military and the Lefties still wanted to make that an issue.


First Kenya, then Indonesia, then The Ivory Coast, now Niger, make up your minds people.

A blatant case of intentional disinformaiton here.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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All birthers should watch the Colbert report clip, and realize how absolutely ridiculous they are.

Us level-headed people will get it


www.hulu.com...

Anyone know how to embed this?
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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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The thing is. Because the white background of the paper was removed and only the letters are left, you cannot tell if it was faked or not. because if it was there, like some original text, it's been removed. So only the lined up letters would be left. This does not change the fact it has layers, and therefore was tempered with. Which begs to question why.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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Not the actual inaguration god, he released all his info once he became the president and obama didnt



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by Skerrako
 


Not the actual inaguration god, he released all his info once he became the president and obama didnt


Obama did release his info, but not publicly but to official sources who verify the information.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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I don't think the argument will end. I think this will be a continuing trend for a while. It's just my opinion, but I believe that part of this is from personal attacks on Bush when he was in office (Dumb student, Draft Dodger, coke head,etc etc). I'm pretty sure Obama will get re-elected, but I'm also pretty sure that a Republican will win in 2016. Then it will be the Democrats turn to bash, criticize, and nit pick at every decision that is made, every word that is spoken. I Truly can not stand Dems and Reps. All they do is Bitch at eachother.




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