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Obama's NEW Birth Certificate proven to be fake hours after release

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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The 'TRUTH' has these anti-American socialist 'talking heads' really agitated:All they can do is 'talk the talk' ..can't document anything...Makes my day!
...They can't stand the truth!

The "TRUTH"

Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama was born at Coast Hospital in Mombasa located in Coast Province. Obama's father was a Kenya citizen and Obama's mother a U.S. citizen (WHO WAS NOT OLD ENOUGH TO REGISTER OBAMA'S BIRTH IN HAWAII AS A 'NATURAL BORN' UNITED STATES CITIZEN). The laws on the books at the time of Obama's birth required the U.S. citizen parent to have resided in the United States for ten (10) years, five (5) of which were after the age of fourteen (14). Obama's mother was only eighteen (18) years old when Obama was born in Kenya.(NATIONALITY ACT OF 1940, REVISED JUNE 1952. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA V. CERVANTES-NAVA. 281 f.3d)

This is a little hard for liberals and other [[snip]] to understand...Not enough pictures?

Here's some pictures:Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama: Born in Kenya

End of story...IMPEACH THIS CRIMINAL, POUS!
edit on Fri Apr 29 2011 by DontTreadOnMe because: MOD EDIT: Reaffirming Our Desire For Productive Political Debate (REVISED)




posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Fact is......there IS no crime.

The bottom of the second fake clearly defines it as an abstract or other copy. Why else would anyone sign that steamer?


edit on 29-4-2011 by Shadowalker because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by ipsedixit
It's a legalistic thing. The Constitution bars the office of President to people not born in territory of the United States.
I’m aware. But you’re miles away from even having a serious case to argue that he wasn’t.

You’re caught up on irrelevant details, like what race you believe was acceptable back then, discarding that DOH officials said their policy was to accept what the parents told them. Believing the hospital wasn’t named like it was when Obama was born, when it clearly was. Raising questions about the order of Obama’s certificate number, when there’s a plausible explanation they numbered them alphabetically.

You have not proven a single of your allegations. You raise questions, many not even good ones, and you have suspicions. That’s not a case.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by aptness
You have not proven a single of your allegations. You raise questions, many not even good ones, and you have suspicions. That’s not a case.


To be precise, I haven't made any allegations. In order to make a case against the Obama long form birth certificate, one has to ask questions and investigate.

Everyone should be willing to help that process along.

It is very possible that Obama, himself, doesn't really know what is going on, with regard to his birth certificate. His passport application, the original one, might be revealing in that respect.

This is a legal and legalistic area of enquiry. It is picky and finicky. Legal questions like this are often decided on technicalities. If it was possible for someone not born in the US to fool election officials and get elected President, people interested in upholding the intent of the constitution should be expected to take the matter seriously.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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YES

www.henrymakow.com...

ASK HIM how these pixels are different in various places..

Ask him does he think the document has been altered.

And if IT HAS does this mean ANYTHING..

WITH ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE DOCUMENT FOR ANY REASON PRO BHO, OR, TRAP FOR TRUTHERS..

EVEN IF EVERY SINGLE FIELD ON THIS PAGE WAS %100 TRUE AND ACCURATE

- ALL PARTIES INVOLVED IN THE RELEASE OF THIS DOCUMENT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH FRAUD, MANIPULATION, DISHONESTY, AND DEEP IN THE MIDDLE OF PERPETUTING SOME TYPE OF POLITICAL SCAM AT THE PRESIDENTIAL AND NATIONALLEVELS..

- THE CHARACTER IMPLICATIONS OF DOING SO ALONE WILL LOSE THE ELECTION



edit on Fri Apr 29 2011 by DontTreadOnMe because: Mod Edit: All Caps – Please Review This Link.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by ipsedixit
To be precise, I haven't made any allegations.
My apologies if I lumped you in with the nuts.


Everyone should be willing to help that process along.
Your premise. though, is based on the assumption that everyone would reach the same conclusions you did when analyzing the same data and information.

I have looked at the other allegations, and I’ve looked at this long form certificate pdf. I remain unconvinced the ‘artifacts’ we’re seeing on the pdf put out by the White House isn’t the automatic result of the software, either when the document was initially scanned, when it was converted to pdf format.


His passport application, the original one, might be revealing in that respect.
So you want the passport now?


Legal questions like this are often decided on technicalities.
But they are always decided on some founded case and arguments.


If it was possible for someone not born in the US to fool election officials and get elected President, people interested in upholding the intent of the constitution should be expected to take the matter seriously.
I’m one of the interested parties. But I’m not seeing any evidence of what you are suggesting has happened.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by Opspeculate
Let me guess... you can't walk and chew gum either.
If you didn’t get the joke, there’s no point in explaining it.


Answer these points
You’re repeating the same text you’ve previously quoted, and I’ve already given my answer to that.

I’m still waiting for the birth certificates with ‘negro’ listed under race. I’m not saying they don’t exist, you simply haven’t provided any.

On the other hand I have provided several Hawaiian birth certificates that show different terms used for race that don’t fit with your theory that only those used for classification purposes were allowed.

Your argument is substantially weaker.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Your right brother... I give up as well. No point me being an @hole over a silly BC issue. I yeild

I am guessing A&E will clear this entire thing up for us in the new season.


As for everything deemed to be true from the heads of the families there is extreme polarity during show and tell.

Would be easy to clear up. Just bring it to PAWN STARS for authenticity including period. Just don't expect to get top dollar.

:-)



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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I have got a bad feeling about this. I keep thinking there is something much bigger happening here.
I hope I am wrong but I have got a gut feeling this document has been intentionally made to look fake so we and others are made to look like absolute fools when he produces the original after the media accuses him of being a fraud.
This guy is definitely slick. I remember seeing somewhere someone asking him about ufo's and he had a very witty reply which made everyone laugh and it was actually a very sensible point of view, however in the process it made anyone who had a belief in ufos look very foolish.
I can just see this happening, and he will make people like us look absolutely ridiculous so as to lose credibility and take peoples minds off conspiracy theories. I think there is something even bigger he is hiding.
I know this is absolutely crazy thinking but I can't shake it off.

I actually hope it is a fraudulent document. Imagine it, we actually played a small role in bringing this out. Power to the people.

Anyway never mind me. I just needed to put that on record just in case.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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...I keep thinking there is something much bigger happening here.
I hope I am wrong but I have got a gut feeling this document has been intentionally made to look fake...


Agreed. We should be wondering why this has come out the way it did. It looks intentional.

We're all being played here, the question is why, and for what. What could they really be up to?

JR



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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The ones you provided were, if I remember correctly, 1911, 1981, 1995. The terminology was different from year to year.
I'm not saying you're wrong but I'm not saying you're right either. You can't produce a birth certificate from around the same time (other than obamas) that says African yet... and we can't produce one that says black or negro yet.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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I don't know if anybody has posted this anywhere in here I didn't look and if they did it doesn't matter. The more times the better.
Obama'a long form forgery by Outlivesheep

www.video.me...

outlivesheep.com...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by WildWorld
The ones you provided were, if I remember correctly, 1911, 1981, 1995. The terminology was different from year to year.
The first one was a 1973 certificate of a 1907 birth, IIRC.

My point was not the terminology, the point is that they’re evidence the terminology the DOH accepted was varied, consistent with the policy the DOH official said they have.

Yes, none of the certificates I posted are from 1961, but the DOH obviously accepted very different terms before and after Obama’s birth, but we’re supposed to believe they only accepted a few strict terms around the time of Obama’s birth?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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I do find it amusing that the first black President is the only pres to have his citizenship questioned. I mean seriously "birthers" give it a break he's our president and he's here to stay.

Quit with the racism, seriously it's sick



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by hawaii50th
I don't know if anybody has posted this anywhere in here I didn't look and if they did it doesn't matter. The more times the better.
Obama'a long form forgery by Outlivesheep

www.video.me...

outlivesheep.com...


Another great video of the officially proclaimed scanned birth certificate pdf.

Thanks !!!

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the King's horses and all the King's men,
Couldn't put Obama's Birth Certificate together again.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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because of these 83 pages that keep saying the long-form is faked....i have reached the conclusion that for the birthers NOTHING WILL PROVE TO THEM THAT HE IS AN AMERICAN....no matter what is presented, proven, shown, or released, they will continue to call it fake...so all this is an act of futility on the part of Obama. the birthers will NEVER ,EVER, BE CONVINCED...so why does anyone bother with these people...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:26 PM
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Have to agree with this 100%

Seriously birthers, noone ever questioned Bush's presidency and that dude was dumber then a rock



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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The integrity of a leader "pres" empowered to rage war and constitute the welfare of millions is right down to the wood.

This is not a varnish issue but glad to see you took the time today to sign up and get that off your chest.

All together now...

INTEGRITY



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Still doesn't prove to me this isn't just a race issue. I mean seriously NO OTHER president has been challenged in this way.

Seriously I knew there were racists out there I just never thought it would be this bad for the first Black President. Wow people, just wow



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