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Obama's NEW Birth Certificate proven to be fake hours after release

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by ipsedixit
These are very good questions. In the video debunking OCR as a cause of "layers" in the document, the video maker traces the tracks of additions made to the document, even to the point of noting the trail of commands to "rotate" the additions for aesthetic purposes, i.e., so that they will fit into the document better.

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Exactly.
Finally someone has acknowledged and understood this. This is undeniable evidence. It shows text was inserted using software and not as a result of OCR scanning. It also shows the commands performed on the text to position it appropriately.

The question now is. What the hell is going on here?




posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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Showing any BCs later the Obamas is not going to prove anything, The world was a different place then.

The only way to tell either way is to find the BC of another Black or Black/white parents from that period or earlier.

Till then Race is Race and Nationality is Nationality until specified otherwise.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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They should have hired a real "old school" forger, or a team of them, experts in engraving and calligraphy, in two words technical artists. Then they would have a document that could stand scrutiny. Keeping people quiet would be the problem. Not a really big problem.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by ken10
The only way to tell either way is to find the BC of another Black or Black/white parents from that period or earlier.
Which you haven’t that says ‘Negro,’ ‘Negroid’ or ‘Mongoloid.’ Or presented any supporting evidence or documentation that there were “only 3 options.”


Till then Race is Race and Nationality is Nationality until specified otherwise.
Correct. And until you prove otherwise the DOH policy was to accept what the parents told them.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 08:59 AM
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I haven't seen discussion of the serial number on the "birth certificate", 61 10641.

This would be very difficult to fake. Obama's father is already suspected of identity theft in procuring a Connecticut social security number for his son, I believe. The birth certificate number may be an example of a case where operatives working for Obama, looked through the serial numbers for that date, hoping to find someone, deceased and with no surviving relatives, whose number they could use. That number would be available.

The down side is that there may be other traces of that number elsewhere. Maybe Trump's people are looking for those traces. If they turn up, the whole house of cards is in a shambles.


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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroPointEnergy
This absolutely prooves it. Do you understand what is being said. It proves software was used to insert text. It was not due to OCR scanning




Well this obviously proves its a fraud beyond any reasonable doubt.

There is absolutely no way separate elements could have come in with some turned 90degrees right and some 90 degrees left. The lights would have to be flickering and windows would be folding up lol.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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IMO...What I think they mean by accepting what the parents told them is accepting what race they say they are, but it still has to be a race that was recognized at that time as a race. As far as I know african was not considered a race in the US in 1961.
If what you are saying is true the mother could of said the father was any number of made up things or place names and they would have to write it on there? Antartican? Martian? Bostonian?
I could be wrong, this is only my opinion. There hasn't been any proof of either posted here yet that I have seen.
BTW your first "American" link does not work. The other two are from 1981 and 1995.... Much different than 1961.
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by ipsedixit
I haven't seen discussion of the serial number on the "birth certificate", 61 10641.

This would be very difficult to fake. Obama's father is already suspected of identity theft in procuring a Connecticut social security number for his son, I believe. The birth certificate number may be an example of a case where operatives working for Obama, looked through the serial numbers for that date, hoping to find someone, deceased and with no surviving relatives, whose number they could use. That number would be available.

The down side is that there may be other traces of that number elsewhere. Maybe Trump's people are looking for those traces. If they turn up, the whole house of cards is in a shambles.


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Trump is a weird one and that skinned out possum on his head doesnt help much. But he is also damn smart and he isn't stupid enough to play all his cards this early in the game.

He certainly has the goods and he isn't ready to throw down until Obama is the confirmed choice and both sides are a couple months away from the vote. He likely will sell what he has if he isnt selected to run.

Its called 'profit on your investment'. Trump likes huge profits......



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by Shadowalker

Originally posted by ZeroPointEnergy
This absolutely prooves it. Do you understand what is being said. It proves software was used to insert text. It was not due to OCR scanning




Well this obviously proves its a fraud beyond any reasonable doubt.

There is absolutely no way separate elements could have come in with some turned 90degrees right and some 90 degrees left. The lights would have to be flickering and windows would be folding up lol.


Thanks for commenting on the video. It is clearly undeniable evidence in my book also.
However I still don't know what this means. Either way it can't be good.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroPointEnergy
OK this is for the OCR FANBOYS.

Watch and WEEP OCR FANBOYS





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This one was so good I had to rub one out after watching...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Since we all (mostly) believe it is fake, It should fit right in with this quote...





It's almost like he's more qualified for the job, you see, running the fake economy with fake dollars while the mainstream media distributes all the fake news. And then in between the fake news bits, the advertisers come on and promote their fake foods, and fake pharmaceuticals which are approved based on faked science approved by FDA regulators who are faking it, too. Learn more: www.naturalnews.com...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by ipsedixit
I haven't seen discussion of the serial number on the "birth certificate", 61 10641.


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I do remember a couple of people saying that they had found Birth Certificates of people who were born after Obama but they had a smaller number on the document.
I never saw the evidence so it is probably BS. I don't know



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by aptness

Originally posted by ken10
So, What you are saying there is no difference between Race and Nationality, isn't it ?
No. I’m saying the DOH policy was to accept what the parents told them, because that’s what the DOH officials stated and can be observed from other certificates.

I can show you an Hawaiian birth certificate with ‘American’ as race, I can show you an Hawaiian birth certificate with ‘Black’ and ‘Hawaiian/Chinese/Korean/German/English/Portuguese’ as race, I can show you an Hawaiian birth certificate with ‘Caucasian/Japanese’ and ‘Caucasian/Hawaiian’ as race.

Can you show me one with ‘Negro’? Can you show me one with ‘Negroid’ or ‘Mongoloid’ or whatever you claim were part of the only 3 options?


First link doesn't work and the second one is from 1995 and third one is from 1981. Those are relevant how?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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The fact of the matter is that there may be another birth certificate in existence, with the same serial number as Obama's, albeit of a deceased person.

One might be able to get a list of everyone born in Hawaii on that date. Through dogged detective work it might be possible to narrow down the possibilities of who could have the missing birth certificate, the number of which, Obama may be using.

If Trump's people were to do that and actually find the document and if the proof of computer manipulation of the forgery were to be accepted, I am willing to bet that Trump will not use this information or blow it up into national prominence. It would be the equivalent of sending the American political process over Niagara Falls.

Trump would prefer ambiguity. Just enough ambiguity to defeat Obama in an election. He doesn't want to show the mass of the people what the Democratic party has become.

I'm reminded of the issue of Rob Riggle as "Harleyman". We had a tentative voiceprint identification, done by an amateur, ID'ing Riggle as Harleyman, but no-one in the truth movement with money for a professional audio voiceprint analysis would step up to do the job. Not Alex Jones, not Charlie Sheen, not anybody!

The consequences are potentially terrifying for the country.

The boats are eddying in the rapids, just before the Falls. People sail close but nobody wants to go over the edge.
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:20 AM
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I would like to thank Zero Point for his video. Now I have a question perhaps someone can answer. When I saw the document with the layers removed, and Zero's video highlighted this for me, why were some letters added and others left in such as "non" on the word none? It would help me a bit. Thanks



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:20 AM
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And you won't, because the term was not in usage back then. How hard is it?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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There was a few links in this thread to that birth certificate.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by D377MC
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And you won't, because the term was not in usage back then. How hard is it?

It's not hard for me, I was just replying to someone who is saying that African is a race.

Maybe you misunderstood what I wrote?
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Nite_wing
I would like to thank Zero Point for his video. Now I have a question perhaps someone can answer. When I saw the document with the layers removed, and Zero's video highlighted this for me, why were some letters added and others left in such as "non" on the word none? It would help me a bit. Thanks


Not sure if I am answering your point but with regard to "none", I think a word such as "wife" was changed to "none".



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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Sorry, lost the plot there for a second.



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