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Obama's NEW Birth Certificate proven to be fake hours after release

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by WildWorld
Anyone who is doubting that this is edited is not very familiar with photoshop. Ask any graphic designer etc... And they will tell you this edited in layers....and poorly at that.


I am a graphic designer.

Can you test the paper and ink for age and authenticity?

No - you can't.


You can view download the document right from the whitehouse so I am not sure why you are so insistent on the paper document. The document was uploaded by his administration this isn't a document from some fringe website. Unless I am totally misunderstanding you line of thinking?




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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I wonder what’s worst.

Listening to a bunch of untrained CSI misfits.
Or
A bunch of people who are racist and who are evidently lost in the system of life, knowing that no president is above the law, as the average intelligent mortal child on earth understands that the NSA, CIA, CSA, FBI and EVERY REPUBLICAN SENATOR, EVERY RACIST PERSON in the world wouldn’t of let him become the commander in the first place ,if it was even 1% that something was wrong with him as a whole.

You humans went from having a C- average student PRESIDENT ’George Bush’ ,to a President who had A+ in school.
What more do you lil mortals want?
OH YEA THAT’S RIGHT!
YOU ALL SETTLE FOR ANYTHING. FORGOT !

JESUS CHRIST ! LORD…PLEASE HELP THE HUMANS MAKE THE LEFT DECISION IN 2012.



'Functionally Retarded Adults,LOL



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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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reply to post by camaro68ss
 


I just made a thread with this question, look for Obama contradiction



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:07 PM
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Sorry if this was already mentioned here but weren't there more challenges than simply the layers? I think someone mentioned on the other thread of evidence of pasting - moving/adding things. Lines being distorted or something....and also some of the type pixelated (sp?) and some not. Could the pixelation be due to the different types of ink mentioned? I don't understand how some things could be in pixels and some not.

IMO, if Obama really wanted to put this at rest, I mean really for the sake of the country he loves and all, the only way to do it would be live with the actual record - in front of cameras - with members of both parties present and Mr. Trump. I understand that is asking wayyy too much and all of the ask-no-questions types would say that is an incredible insult. Forget the insult he slapped on us for almost 3 years by ignoring the issue only to come out with this. However, I think by doing this he simply fueled the fire. ....I suppose he did give Trump a boost and some bragging rights though FWIW.

Oh well.....



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by 2ndFUTURE

Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by Bonified Ween
 


Oh for god sake give it up.
If someone, anyone could prove it was fake, he wouldn't be president.
Do you actually think that any of the previous candidates, fox news, rush, hannity, beck, etc.. don't have the funds to prove it's fake if it really were fake?

Even fox news say everything is legit !

Give it up already and move on !!!!

Think about it for 2 seconds....if the republicans could prove it was fake, they'd wipe out the democratic party in one fell swoop...yet, they haven't done so. Why is that? Because it's NOT fake...DUH !!!!
edit on 27-4-2011 by jfj123 because: (no reason given)


when are you going to realize that there is no difference between news stations nor the two main political parties. You are caught between them just like most Americans, taking sides and feeling superior. Truth is, the people who control Obama also controlled Bush. They want us all fighting with each other so we don't see that their actual agenda never actually changes. They like puppets like Obama and Bush because they are so flawed and so controllable. Wake up to the propaganda


So if they're so super powerful, why bother with the smoke and mirrors?
They are super powerful yet they need to hide in the shadows only to HOPE they can distract us?
Makes no sense whatsoever.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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For those who do not have Adobe Illustrator, here is a youtube HD video of the breakdown of the way the groups make up a single layer in Illustrator.

Makes you think?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by mudbeed

Originally posted by BR1GAND
I'm no Photoshop or OCR expert but, has anyone tried to print this doc out (high res) and then try rescanning the hard copy doc using one of these so called layering programs? Can this layering effect be duplicated? Might be a step in legitimizing or debunking this. Hmmmm?


Yes.

Use a program like OmniPage.

Thats all it takes, but no one will listen to you anyways.


your right...nobody is going to listen now, the right-wing has been hung by their own rope. and c'mon...now you're questioning the scanning/copying process? oh please, please, keep it up till the next election, and do it real loud, so everyone in america can here you


There's a theory out there that the democrats thought up the whole birther theory. Their goal was to fragment the republican party. It's working. Not even fox news can get the lunatic fringe of the GOP back in line. Carl Rove would be proud.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by mudbeed

Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by camaro68ss
Please someone tell me where the Seal is on this copy. there is no state seal stamped on it?


yeah! yeah! that's it...please do crazy some more...put it on signs!....carry it proudly in washington around the whitehouse...i know...bullhorns in front of the FOX NEWS building!!! go crazy go!!!


why cant you awnser the question instead of mocking me?


Because unlike a regular BC this is a long form document which is generally only used internally by the hospital. The regular BC is used for getting jobs, proving citizenship, etc...but nobody believed that one he already showed...lol


Hello my friend. I don't know you but I can instantly know you are a friend. Ya know why?
Because you are not welcome in this thread.
Again, ya know why? You are a voice of reason

Starred and a big thumbs up



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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maybe the reason they did it is because now birthers who know this won't let the issue drop, yet the layman on the streets hears "obama birth certificate released not enough for birthers". and it makes everyone who questions his past look stupid. i just heard someone on CNN say that, btw.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by 2ndFUTURE

Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by Bonified Ween
 


Oh for god sake give it up.
If someone, anyone could prove it was fake, he wouldn't be president.
Do you actually think that any of the previous candidates, fox news, rush, hannity, beck, etc.. don't have the funds to prove it's fake if it really were fake?

Even fox news say everything is legit !

Give it up already and move on !!!!

Think about it for 2 seconds....if the republicans could prove it was fake, they'd wipe out the democratic party in one fell swoop...yet, they haven't done so. Why is that? Because it's NOT fake...DUH !!!!
edit on 27-4-2011 by jfj123 because: (no reason given)


when are you going to realize that there is no difference between news stations nor the two main political parties. You are caught between them just like most Americans, taking sides and feeling superior. Truth is, the people who control Obama also controlled Bush. They want us all fighting with each other so we don't see that their actual agenda never actually changes. They like puppets like Obama and Bush because they are so flawed and so controllable. Wake up to the propaganda


So if they're so super powerful, why bother with the smoke and mirrors?
They are super powerful yet they need to hide in the shadows only to HOPE they can distract us?
Makes no sense whatsoever.


Neither do chemtrails but people still swear they exist.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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edit on 27-4-2011 by getreadyalready because: Removed large quote, and repeat of same video posted again



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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You can use photoshop to argue that it's real and it's fake. The new content awareness option is amazing.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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Wait, Obama's transcripts were released? He unsealed his records?!

Please, do share. This is turning out to be quite the day!



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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This is ridiculous. Barrack Obama - the President of the United States, the leader of the most powerful country in the world - would never, ever be as foolish enough as to produce a fake birth certificate, fake as in the sense of being counterfeit.

If he is in fact not of American origin, which I personally believe he is, I am certain he would be able to have a very real and official - albeit forged - birth certificate created. If he can keep UFO's, military cash flow and secret technology hidden, then I'm sure he can have an official piece of paper created.

Face it, Obama produced the birth certificate and all you "birthers" were wrong. Now, let's see if Trump will be so willing to produce his tax returns...



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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The title is "Obama's NEW Birth Certificate proven to be fake hours after release"

It is absolutely NOT proven to be fake. The title is false. The reasoning is false.

We need some accountability here if we are ever going to move forward. Truth must rise above unreasonable illogical thinking.

This is a hoax. This thread should be closed or moved. Allowing this hoax to continue is shameful.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard

Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by 2ndFUTURE

Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by Bonified Ween
 


Oh for god sake give it up.
If someone, anyone could prove it was fake, he wouldn't be president.
Do you actually think that any of the previous candidates, fox news, rush, hannity, beck, etc.. don't have the funds to prove it's fake if it really were fake?

Even fox news say everything is legit !

Give it up already and move on !!!!

Think about it for 2 seconds....if the republicans could prove it was fake, they'd wipe out the democratic party in one fell swoop...yet, they haven't done so. Why is that? Because it's NOT fake...DUH !!!!
edit on 27-4-2011 by jfj123 because: (no reason given)


when are you going to realize that there is no difference between news stations nor the two main political parties. You are caught between them just like most Americans, taking sides and feeling superior. Truth is, the people who control Obama also controlled Bush. They want us all fighting with each other so we don't see that their actual agenda never actually changes. They like puppets like Obama and Bush because they are so flawed and so controllable. Wake up to the propaganda


So if they're so super powerful, why bother with the smoke and mirrors?
They are super powerful yet they need to hide in the shadows only to HOPE they can distract us?
Makes no sense whatsoever.


Neither do chemtrails but people still swear they exist.


Another fake conspiracy for people to latch on to

There is enough real stuff going on people...what don't need to make stuff up !



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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I say this is all a distraction from the real problems... Poison Bowl still brewing in the Gulf of Mexico (full effects take time), Radiation from Japan (full effects take time), their meddling in the middle east (full effects take time), their meddling with the economy (full effects take time)... 'Keep'em occupied, they'll never know what hit'em'

I'm good either way


To the topic, even if this is a "reprint/remake", I had to request a new BC at one point as mine was obliterated, this was years ago... And I received one that has a hidden watermark, and states along the borders to hold at angle to verify... Why is there no special identity theft verifications present on his? Seeing as how it's just now available, in 2011, it should have much more ID features/protections then what I received almost a decade ago. Perhaps as some have said, it was a premature/incomplete posting of the BC? The world may never know. It smells, so I'm running away, lol.

Foraging On... -FF


edit on 27-4-2011 by ForestForager because: forgot an if?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs
There's an army physician sitting in prison right now because Obamas B.C. was to much trouble for him to release. Terence Lakin Google it . Why is he still in prison?


I do not agree he should be in jail but wasn't this the guy who refused to leave because he didn't believe that Obama was allowed to be CO of the army?

He directly disobeyed commanding officers. That is why, he wasn't jailed because he had questions.

Once again, call it my bleeding heart (joke intended), but I don't think this guy should be in jail for that or any American.

They should be discharged, but military is different for a reason.


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