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Obama's NEW Birth Certificate proven to be fake hours after release

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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There is no such place in Hawaii as listed on this fake Birth certificate...In 1961 - and according to the said Birth Certificate the hospital where BO was (allegedly)!! born was named :- KAPIOLANI MATERNITY & GYNECOLOGICAL HOSPITAL.

Now let`s go to Wikipedia for the history of the hospital.

Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children is part of Hawaii Pacific Health's network of hospitals. It is located in Honolulu, Hawaii, within the residential inner city district of Makiki. Kapi'olani Medical Center is Hawaii's only children's hospital with a team of physicians and nurses and specialized technology trained specifically to care for children, from infants to young adults. It is the state's only 24-hour pediatric emergency room, pediatric intensive care unit and adolescent unit.This clearly shows (but is subject to `citation` on Wiki) that as of 1978 (up to the date of the actual merger) the maternity part of the hospital was still known as the Kapi`olani Maternity Home.

Therefore this would have been the case in 1961 when BO was born !!!!

So, where did they get the name : KAPIOLANI MATERNITY & GYNECOLOGICAL HOSPITAL ???????????

We no longer need to be concerned about any lack of citation on Wiki, because we can go to the HOSPITAL`s own website and read EXACTLY THE SAME HISTORICAL ACCOUNT REGARDS ITS NAMES !!!

A Century of Care for Hawaii's Women and Children

This is the story of two hospitals: Kauikeolani Children's Hospital and Kapiolani Maternity Home. The two hospitals joined in 1978 to become Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children.

Thanks to DevvyKid for this information...but I still don't care about a birth certificate as he is just not elligable to be president of the U.S. because of his father and also because of his Indonesion citizenship.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Had you guys read the other thread, you would know it was a scan and the layers are from running it through the OCR (Optical Character Reader in Acrobat Pro). The OCR replaces the characters it can read with the same or similar font to make it searchable. That is done with all old documents these days. I do it myself all the time.

Somebody above asked how to get to the layers, you do so in Adobe Illustrator. Or you simply open the document in Photoshop and open only the image instead of rasterizing the whole thing to open in PS. When you do that it removes the characters before opening.

Here is the image portion of the document where you can clearly see an OCR was used to make it searchable. The document is a scan. Period end of subject. Some so called experts are far from being experts. The remaining text you see are characters the OCR could not identify.



I am however as anti-Obama as a person can get, but this craziness has to stop or it will cause him to get more votes, not less.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by STL0913
Elementary my dear Watson.
It seems Hawaii scanned all of their birth certificates to a computer database that has OCR (optical character recognition) which automatically reads the typewriter text and generates "layers". Most government documents have been transfered to computer databases using OCR. It makes it possible to search for certain phrases in their databases. So if i had access to the Hawaii Dept. of Health database or whichever branch of the government birth certificates are stored, I would be able to search for Barrack Obama and instantly see every Barrack Obama born in the state. Pretty handy eh? Considering we used to have to dig through file cabinets and folders to find a document, this makes it way easier and faster. I can guarantee that any birth certificate in .pdf that is currently on a computer database will have "layers", and if they added a background it will have the white borders around letters, in fact the white borders around the letters actually proves that it wasn't tampered with.

I am not an expert on this and am just assuming they are using OCR to make searching for documents easier but i just think it's more logical than "Oh they forgot to turn OCR off".

Hopefully that explains a couple of things. private message me if you want because I probably won't be returning to this thread.


You see. Sceptics always assume there's not a reason for things. This makes perfect sense to me and I don't even like Barak.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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Had you guys read the other thread, you would know it was a scan and the layers are from running it through the OCR (Optical Character Reader in Acrobat Pro). The OCR replaces the characters it can read with the same or similar font to make it searchable. That is done with all old documents these days. I do it myself all the time. Somebody above asked how to get to the layers, you do so in Adobe Illustrator. Or you simply open the document in Photoshop and open only the image instead of rasterizing the whole thing to open in PS. When you do that it removes the characters before opening. Here is the image portion of the document where you can clearly see an OCR was used to make it searchable. The document is a scan. Period end of subject. Some so called experts are far from being experts. The remaining text you see are characters the OCR could not identify.


That sounds reasonable, and fits well with my findings in my previous post in this thread.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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hahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahh!

This is why I believe Obama should not have released anything. The small lunatic fringe will never believe anything he says.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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I agree with the poster who said if the government wanted to get it perfect they easily could, I mean at least something that could not be found out with a simple program, my guess? America needed another Charlie Sheen, and all the attention we are giving it is exactly what the aim of this whole thing was, soon its going to be on the news nonstop until the next big distraction pops up. I admire the poster for pointing out the discrepancy but I'm sure people like you are exactly what they counted on.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Just trying to be the (non-Obama fan) voice of reason, here...

The combination of my scanner and Photoshop has the ability to automatically create different layers depending on the settings for the scan. I can tell it to say, give me 3 layers: One for text, one for background, and one "other". 70% of the time, it does a pretty good job of selecting text from the background. Other times, I get random layers with bits of text in each. It all depends on what the scanner sees as the differences between the text and the background.

I've been around Photoshop, and worked with it professionally in my industry for over 18 years. My suspicions are that the original document was scanned, then placed over the "new" official background. Certain elements of text were then enhanced for readability (I mean, it's the President, you know...) knowing that they were going to be examined. Then they combined the enhanced information into a final, official document, and presented it.

To me, there is nothing suspect about this document and its corresponding layers - other than some dolt that thought they were doing the world a favor by enhancing some illegible text and forgetting to flatten the layers before outputting.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Bonified Ween
Greetings fellow humans,

After much of the excitement for everyone regarding Barry's birth certificate that he spent over 5 million dollars in lawyer fees to hide from the prying eye of the public. I stumbled upon someones investigation into how the newly released birth cert is in fact fake, and you can even do this yourself if you have the software to see for yourself. You see they left things in PDF format which can be imported into Adobe Illustrator. This is where things got interesting, see for yourself. This in itself shows that the birth Certificate given to the public wasn't scanned, it was pieced together digitally. Sorry, but you've been had! If you don't understand how Clipping Masks work I suggest you Google it to find out.

Original doc here: Link< br />













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edit on 27-4-2011 by Bonified Ween because: Fixed URL at top


Congratulations on proving this is a scan ran through Acrobats OCR reader. You do know that is what you proved?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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You misread my post. I meant they "go all white" (as in their hair turns white, their skin pale), not that they are all white guys. Reread my post with this knowledge, and see if you can understand what I was saying.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
Congratulations on proving this is a scan ran through Acrobats OCR reader. You do know that is what you proved?


So now we've got two possible explanations for the same issue. Both are equally FAR more plausible than one of the most powerful and technologically advanced nations in the world choking on making a stupid fake birth certificate.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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the newspaper listing of Obama's birth was printed
on August 8, 1961. So the ad for the
birth had to meet the deadline for print
the previous day. Usually that is 5:00 pm
when the office closes on the previous day.
Ann Dunham didn't even sign this birth certificate
until Aug. 7 and wasn't accepted by the registrars
office til Aug. 8 as was printed on the BC.

So my question is how did the newspaper
get it by the 5 pm deadline Aug 7 if it wasn't even accepted
at the registrar's office til the next day ????



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
So my question is how did the newspaper
get it by the 5 pm deadline Aug 7 if it wasn't even accepted
at the registrar's office til the next day ????


Back then, a lot of newspapers ran two editions: a morning edition, and an evening edition. They probably made the cutoff for the evening edition.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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i like how people are coming in here trying to disprove your claim without understanding what your talking about or doing it themselves. gotta love america!! good job op!



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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my question is why didnt they just flatten the image??!!?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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I believe Obama's a fraud, and given the variety of expert testimony in here, the long-form BC seems to be a fraud, too, but...since we will NEVER see the original, even if it DOES exist, what WOULD it take to convince us that he IS "natural born"?

We may be right, but like the man said, maybe this IS a "circle jerk."

Great thread. Verrry educational, in more ways than one. Thanks for everyone's input, including White House psy-op ringers. Hey, we all have to make a living. Ironically, the more light we seem to put on this, the murkier it gets.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by atlguy
Back then, a lot of newspapers ran two editions: a morning edition, and an evening edition. They probably made the cutoff for the evening edition.

lol
well I could see that if it was a big city.
but a small town paper like this wouldn't
have an evening edition.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by atlguy

To me, there is nothing suspect about this document and its corresponding layers - other than some dolt that thought they were doing the world a favor by enhancing some illegible text and forgetting to flatten the layers before outputting.
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So has the OP really found a smoking gun and provided "Proof" of a fake?

22 pages on........I say no.........certainly not conclusive "proof" of fakery........perhaps the poster was too quick to provide that judgement, based on what someone else had "discovered" about the online document.

We got more important things to discuss.............now is Mr Trump's hair real or fake?

I WANT PROOF!!!



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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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OK, is it just me?
I've read the whole thread and I'm still confused. If they scanned the white document to paste over the green for fraud protection, why does the green copy look like it was scanned from a book? I'm sure I've missed something, haven't I?
I'm still trying to figure this out, because I can't seem to move on and process the whole thing until I do.
Could someone explain please, it's driving me nuts.
ETA, and what about this hospital name, I haven't seen anyones arguement debunking that.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Caji316
So, where did they get the name : KAPIOLANI MATERNITY & GYNECOLOGICAL HOSPITAL ???????????

We no longer need to be concerned about any lack of citation on Wiki, because we can go to the HOSPITAL`s own website and read EXACTLY THE SAME HISTORICAL ACCOUNT REGARDS ITS NAMES !!!



There are other examples of this name being used for the hospital in the same time period.

CLICK ME



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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umm? What's his father got to do with it? You said he is inelegable to be pres because of his father. I dont know what you mean by that.



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