Sony says hackers have stolen information for users including passwords, birthdays and Credit card d

Might be a little off topic but AnonOps (anonymous IRC network) is being DDoS'd at the moment.

One out of nine servers is still up although its hard to connect to the said server and it keeps disconnecting after talking a bit.

I wonder who's doing this?

reply to post by MarkofCain


Have there been many people on their channel asking about the PSN? As far as I'm aware Anon have denied any involvement and stated that they weren't out to attack PSN users.

reply to post by lifeissacred


nope not "hacking" they are just DDoSing the AnonOps network where most of the attacks are coordinated.

there are other ways to communicate though so it's no biggie unless it continues for days.

oh noez

Originally posted by lifeissacred
reply to post by Skewed

 

You support the theft of the personal information of millions of people? You wouldn't be so excited if you were one of millions of people who were at risk of having their money stolen from someone who they have trusted with it

You don't exactly see the previous posters point, I do not believe.

There are casualties in war, as there was with Mastercard / Visa / Paypal - except it's a tad different this time, serious information has been obtained.

Do you know what Sony's T&C say? I'm assuming they say that your information is "safe" with them. Well is it? Maybe all you who have been compromised should take stand and action against Sony for effectively lieing to you.

Let me make a very important point - It's never the hackers fault, it's the lazy programmers fault.

reply to post by Revolution-2012


I already apologised to the other user for mising the point of his post, however I think it's pretty redundant blaming Sony for all of this, I doubt the person(s) who hacked sony would have much dificulty doing the exact same thing to any other number of companies had they decided to target them instead.

reply to post by Revolution-2012


What I do know as fact is that if dealing with credit cards, there are certain guidelines that must be met in order for Visa, Mastercard, AmEx, etc to do business and process payments. I know, I just went through a technology audit dealing with credit cards.

That said, Sony did not do their due diligence in doing as much as possible to keep the info safe, then possibly charging you all for their inept business practices.

This is one thing if it were me that was affected, I would not stand idly by listening to their cockamamy stories and BS justifications. From as far as I can tell, they have not lived by what they said they would do. Personally, I would string them up anyway that I could. But, that's just me.

EDIT:
Take this event and apply it to the things that is happening all around us in our screwed up country, it is these very things as to why it is that way. Corporations shirking their responsibility and getting away with it, it is when things happen like this is when the people have something they can sink their teeth in and actually be able to demand things from corporations. Letting Sony get away with this is a travesty, making them pay would be patriotic.

reply to post by lifeissacred


And do those other companies deserve your money?

If companies and corporations cannot hold their utmost important value to their customers(keeping their information safe), then do they deserve to have so much power?

The act against Sony is much more than a personal attack due to their blatant attack against people's freedom of information, it is a matter of ethics, as this coming revolution is - the revolution that is unfolding before our very eyes is not one of politics or oil, it is one of ethics, the foundation of government, corporation and individualism, it is a battle of prosperity, good will and intent - all of which have been violently destroyed and redacted to the global incompetence of our leaders.

Do not be surprised as this battle wages, the recent casualties are not even the beginning of the tech war that will unfold.

(edit to add)
Also, not trying to be a dick

reply to post by Revolution-2012


I do agree with you, however I don't see what value attacks like this have in defending individualism or as a battle of the individual versus the corporations and governments. Surely if they were defending individualism they would have simply erased any data sony had on their servers? If that had happened then it would be fair to agree with your description of this attack as part of this tech war against corporate/government domination. As soon as data of private individuals is compromised, any point a person may have been trying to make about personal freedom is redundant. Surely their personal data was safer in the hands of sony that it is in the hands of an unknown individual with an unknown motive or purpose for taking this info.

(edit) Just to clarify I do agree with posters 'skewed' 'MarkofCain' and 'Revolution 2012' however I question the motivation behind the theft of this personal data. (edit)

reply to post by lifeissacred


Well, what if the attacker forced transactions from Sony to their bank accounts / credit cards?

How good would that make Sony look? And you know damn well they'd be tied up in lawsuits for the next 10 years.

reply to post by lifeissacred


The reason is to expose the corporation and their faults at the foundation of their entire operation.

In this day and time, and as many pissed off people out there, I can see where there could very well be a noble hacker. If there should be such a thing, maybe we have some patriotic hackers who will in fact destroy all downloaded data, as their goal would not be for money. As you stated, it is all about the motive.

reply to post by Revolution-2012


Fair point, as I said before I agree with the points that you, skewed and mark of cain are making however my main issue here is not that sony was attacked or the motivation behind such an attack. What I am debating is whether a person can be considered as fighting for individualism yet at the same time compromise the individual liberty of millions of people who otherwise probably would have agreed with the motivations behind the initial attack against sony.

NOOOooooooooo





not our Birthdays!!!

for this reason, every time i register or sign up to something, it's always a fake name, address, country, etc.

as far as credit card info, any fraud would be easily detected by scanning your visa bill, etc and reporting it. you will be reimbursed.

Hahaha @ people who play games online.
That's why you're suppose to play games with ACTUAL People REAL Time.
I'll NEVER pay to play a game online where I could play with a few friends.

Also.
Why don't they just add a damn photo onto credit cards?
That would be much easier.

Originally posted by DuceizBack
Hahaha @ people who play games online.
That's why you're suppose to play games with ACTUAL People REAL Time.
I'll NEVER pay to play a game online where I could play with a few friends.

Also.
Why don't they just add a damn photo onto credit cards?
That would be much easier.

edit on 27-4-2011 by DuceizBack because: (no reason given)

What do you do when you love a game but no one you know IRL plays it?
[Don't think I disagree with you, RL friends >>> online anyday]





This news just sucks, well looks like I'll have to get a new credit card. I only bought one thing on the PS3 network for my cousin (who paid it all to me) and now I pretty much have to get a new CC. Don't trust them one bit after this happened; won't do business with them again, or online really for that matter. I know CC's are designed to be somewhat safe and you can stop fraudulent stuff for the most part, but still it would be a pain in the ass I do not want to go through.

Whenever the PSN network does get back online, can't we just go into their website and change our account information like; address, name, DOB, etc into fake info? Just incase this ever happens again, or if they try to take over your account and reset the password or w/e. lol

feels good to be an xbox player right now. not that i dont feel sorry for ps3 players, but thats what happens when you opt for a free online model with a poor infrastructure run by hardware specialists

Originally posted by SPACEYstranger
feels good to be an xbox player right now. not that i dont feel sorry for ps3 players, but thats what happens when you opt for a free online model with a poor infrastructure run by hardware specialists

You also miss the point. Xbox live has been down for 2 weeks before. I have both consoles and don't see why xbox would be any safer. You would be stupid to think that xbox couldn't suffer the same consequences since it is already easy enough to mod their console.

I think over 9000 users on the PSN are actualy crying

And you still believe Sony about the credit cards ?

Seriously...

reply to post by Conciliatore


I don't know, I'm skeptical about the whole thing right about now to be honest. Until they tell us exactly how they were hacked theres a whole bunch of possible reasons for the PSN being down. To me it seems unlikely they would lie about being hacked, given the bad publicity it will result in and the likely law suits they will have to deal with. What would you consider their motivation be for lying about their users' data and credit cards being stolen?