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Mexican Narco-Trafficker's Revelation Exposes Drug War's Duplicity

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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Mexican Narco-Trafficker's Revelation Exposes Drug War's Duplicity


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Zambada Niebla’s allegation of U.S. government complicity in his narco-trafficking activities is laid out in a two-page court pleading filed in late March with the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois in Chicago. The pleading asserts that Zambada Niebla was working with “public authority” “on behalf of the U.S. Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration (“DEA”); and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”); and the Department of Homeland Security and others
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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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from the court documents filed he claims


UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS
EASTERN DIVISION
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA )
) 09 CR 383-3
v. )
) Judge Ruben Castillo
JESUS VICENTE ZAMBADA-NIEBLA )
NOTICE BY DEFENDANT JESUS VICENTE ZAMBADA-NIEBLA PURSUANT
TO RULE 12.3 OF THE FEDERAL RULES OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
Please Take Notice that Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla, by his attorneys below,
hereby gives notice pursuant to Section 12.3 of the Federal Code of Criminal Procedure
to the attorney for the government that:

He intends to assert the defense of actual and/or believed public authority, and or
entrapment by estoppel, on behalf of the United States Department of Justice,
Drug Enforcement Administration (“DEA”) and the Federal Bureau of
Investigation (“FBI”); and the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration
and Customs Enforcement (“ICE”).
2. The members of the DEA and ICE included the Regional Assistant of the DEA
for South America, the General Director of the DEA for Mexico, DEA agents
from Monterrey, Hermosillo and Mexico City, including but not limited to those
named Eduardo Martinez, “Manny” LNU, “David” LNU, and Esteban Monk,
a/k/a Steven Monk, and others including FBI agents whose names are unknown to
defendant but are known to the agencies.


so there we have it...proof that the US has had a hand in all this right from the start...

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edit on 26-4-2011 by DaddyBare because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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As like the guy accused iun the article, the US and Mexican Governments are innocent until proven guilty in court. I wonder if this guy has any reason what so ever to lie to investigators..

Gee, let me see....

An accusation is not proof by the way...



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
As like the guy accused iun the article, the US and Mexican Governments are innocent until proven guilty in court. I wonder if this guy has any reason what so ever to lie to investigators..


In what court could any government as big as the US be proven guilty of anything?

Good luck!



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by Xcathdra
As like the guy accused iun the article, the US and Mexican Governments are innocent until proven guilty in court. I wonder if this guy has any reason what so ever to lie to investigators..


In what court could any government as big as the US be proven guilty of anything?

Good luck!




The US Government has had its own butt handed to them in US Federal court on more than one occasion. Simply insinuating they are to big to be held accountible by the Courts is naieve and ignores case law. And again, the narco baren has been captured and charged with a crime... I dont place much stock in his allegations since he has nothing to lose by lying. He has to prove his allegations that he was a government agent in order for his defense to use it.
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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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The whole Drug War is a sham anyway. It is kept in place as a money racket and an inroad into private lives. Ounce for ounce drugs are more valuable than silver and gold but if they were in a free market they would have little value. What do weeds cost? Even cultivated ones don't have to cost that much more yet drug trafficking is used to raise billions of dollars and to prop-up and topple governments.

Drug prohibition subjects the people to all manner of violent crimes in their streets and provides a free passage by the governments into peoples' homes. They crumble our rights and expectations of privacy. By turning up the heat of Drug War it all becomes more intrusive by both the police and "criminal" then the people become more willing to trade off any freedoms they have left for a little security though gain nothing in the process except more crime and more violence. They lose their rights and whatever expectations they may have.

People in the US are clamoring for an invasion into Mexico to put the traffickers in their place and anxious to call them terrorists while the perpetrators of this madness, our governments, just go along with anticipation of further dividing and conquering their citizenry and depriving them of any expectations of peace, privacy, or security.

Proving anything or making a difference is another matter altogether. No end in sight to the madness.


edit on 26-4-2011 by Erongaricuaro because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:51 AM
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Humor me, if you have the time or compulsion, and cite a case where a foreigner, or foreign body or government has proven the US government, agencies, officials and/or leaders guilty of complicity in cross border criminal activity, or serious crimes?

I'd really like to believe that is possible, and if there is someone out there with the ability to do this, and is interested in proof beyond any doubt of corruption and criminal activity within US federal agencies, I'd like to contact them.

Bah, been there, done that... It's futile, but I am always open to exploring new opportunities.




posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 10:09 AM
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Hamdi Vs. Rumsfeld / US Government
Hamden Vs. Rumsfeld / US Government
Sandalio Gonzalez Vs. DEA / US Government
Pentagon Papers
Supreme Court overturns Government exepmtions on FOIA
Several States Vs US - Health Care
Supreme Court rules against the US Government re: Money Laundering

I can provide a bunch more but you get the idea.. I am sensing from your view that you are wanting a court case where the government as an entity is held accountible, and all I can say is good luck finding that, because it does not exist. Its going to be an agent acting on behalf of the United States Government.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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Bummer, and none of those cases prove complicity in criminal activity, or serious crimes.

Bottom line, it's impossible... I am already very aware of this... Painfully so.

There is always the court of public opinion, and that option will always remain on the table.

Never know when or where that could happen.




posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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As mentioned the drug trade provides the very organizations mentioned with a LOT of "off book" funding and only a fool would believe that this multi-billion dollar racket was not buying it's way in. It provides a two face income. The "off book" money from aiding the trade and the dollars all of us "consumers",and yeah I lump us all together as the legal drug dealers contribute and support the whole structure significantly, pay for "enforcement"
So I will not be too quick to discount the allegations despite the source.And I doubt that there will be any serious investigation as to the veracity. So unless this guy drops a bomb like a recording of incriminating conversation or some hard evidence that can not be dismissed even if true it will come to naught.
The real fact is legalization and taxation would never provide the massive exchange of funds that prohibition provides. This will not change until the main perpetrator of the scenario can no longer continue the massive expenditures needed to continue the flow ie; The gov goes insolvent or can no longer continue the resource expense due to multiple foreign wars. Or not much longer if things keep up.... I pray any way.With 2million in jail something has to give.
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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
reply to post by Xcathdra
 


Bummer, and none of those cases prove complicity in criminal activity, or serious crimes.

Bottom line, it's impossible... I am already very aware of this... Painfully so.

There is always the court of public opinion, and that option will always remain on the table.

Never know when or where that could happen.



Hamdi and Hamden is very much a serious issue, and the US Government lost its case on both of those issues. Again, you are wanting to see an entity and not the individual held responsible, and I am telling you that is impossible, since culpability must reside with a person who has the authority to act as part of that orgaziation.

There are MANY court cases dealing with criminal issues and the culpability of a US entity through the actions of its officers / representatives.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Yeah, but how does it usually work out?

One of the cases you cited:

Sandalio Gonzalez Vs. DEA / US Government

narcosphere.narconews.com...


And as evidence of the veracity of Gonzalez’ claims in that OSC complaint, it is worth noting that he emerged victorious in 2007 in a civil lawsuit he brought against the DOJ.
The U.S. Attorney General (at the time, Alberto Gonzales) agreed to pay $385,000 of the U.S. taxpayers’ money to settle the discrimination lawsuit Gonzalez filed against the government in federal court in Miami. That lawsuit stemmed, in part, from the ignoble treatment Gonzalez received from DEA and Justice after he brought to light the U.S. government’s complicity in the House of Death mass murder case in Juarez.
Sadly, though, to this day, the House of Death cover-up continues, with no one at DOJ yet having been called to account before Congress or in the U.S. Justice System for their actions, or lack of actions, in the mass-murder case — and the lone known investigative report on the matter, known as the JAT, remains buried deep in DEA's cellar. The lone individual connected with DOJ to pay a price in the case was Gonzalez, who retired early from DEA after agency officials killed his career.
And now, with individuals like Ashton and Leonhart promoted to top posts at DOJ, it seems even less likely that anything will be done in the pursuit of justice in the House of Death case.
Their appointments, in fact, likely will prove convenient in assuring the continuation of the House of Death cover-up, even as the informant at the center of the case, now in hiding in the U.S., prepares to file a lawsuit alleging that U.S. government officials violated his constitutional rights as part of their efforts to deport him back to Mexico — where he would certainly be permanently silenced at the hands of the narco-traffickers he betrayed.


There is absolutely no point in pursuing legal actions against US federal government, or corrupt federal agencies when that corruption goes all the way to the top.

You can't bring justice to the department of justice, or any of their agencies.


A civil suit maybe...


There are other options, not good ones, but better than nothing.



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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
reply to post by Xcathdra
 


Humor me, if you have the time or compulsion, and cite a case where a foreigner, or foreign body or government has proven the US government, agencies, officials and/or leaders guilty of complicity in cross border criminal activity, or serious crimes?

I'd really like to believe that is possible, and if there is someone out there with the ability to do this, and is interested in proof beyond any doubt of corruption and criminal activity within US federal agencies, I'd like to contact them.

Bah, been there, done that... It's futile, but I am always open to exploring new opportunities.



so....the U.S. pretty much controls large swaths of afghanistan especially in the area of air superiority...but the poppy production and heroin trade out of that country is at an all time high. some well placed weed killing aerial spraying, say, over a 2 month period would pretty much wipe out poppy production, and halt the millions of dollars made for the taliban, and save thousands of lives in the western world. since the american military has free reign over there, this is something that needs to be explained to the american people about the ongoing war on drugs.
but all we get on the news is some local guy getting caught with a 1/4 ounce of pot in his car, when he got stopped by the police for a busted out tail light.
yeah...no corruption there...right?



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

so....the U.S. pretty much controls large swaths of afghanistan especially in the area of air superiority...but the poppy production and heroin trade out of that country is at an all time high. some well placed weed killing aerial spraying, say, over a 2 month period would pretty much wipe out poppy production, and halt the millions of dollars made for the taliban, and save thousands of lives in the western world. since the american military has free reign over there, this is something that needs to be explained to the american people about the ongoing war on drugs.
but all we get on the news is some local guy getting caught with a 1/4 ounce of pot in his car, when he got stopped by the police for a busted out tail light.
yeah...no corruption there...right?


The Drug War is not about stopping millions of dollars from changing hands, nor is it about saving lives - to the contrary. It IS about arresting small-time casual users and putting them into the judicial system and milking the people for the costs of trials, incarceration, probation and parole, and whatever little costs that add-up and make the American judicial system a great institution.

The Taliban put a production halt on opium production and The Powers couldn't let that happen, not a shut-down of the world's prime producer of the product. Do you realize how many fat cats and players get their payday from that? When you think Drug War you need to think like Gas Wars of the 50's and 60's where it meant competitive pricing and mass sales, just minus the competitive pricing is all.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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You think it is coincidence that the opium trade is booming as a direct result of US military activity in Afghanistan?



Hundreds of billions of dollars... Nice!


It was like yesterday that over 500 afghan prisoners escaped from an afghan prison, literally under the nose of the US military.


That too was coincidence, or at a minimum a case where everyone just looked the other way while it happened.

Lots of good heroin out there now, bargain prices, super high quality, abundance... No advertising required!

Buy in bulk today from your federal government, if you have the proper contacts and pay off the right people to get it, of course.




posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Since when does US Domestic law apply to another country?



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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Certain factions of the U.S. government have been profiting from the drug trade for generations. This is nothing new. It's also nothing anyone can prove. Though if you look at what's going on in the world and what's been going on in the world with regards to the drug trade it isn't hard to connect the dots. Nobody seems to want to know, though. So they continue business as usual.

Afghanistan produces more poppies than any other country in the world. In the past they would grow them there and then export them to other areas in the region where they were refined into opium, morphine, and heroin. In the last 10 years or so since the U.S. has controlled the airspace, and if you control the air you control the ground, they have actually started importing the precursor chemicals needed to refine the poppies. So they are cutting out the middle men and making the drugs right there. The U.S. government controls production and distribution of all opiates coming from Afghanistan. Most of them end up in China. There are an estimated 150 million Chinese citizens addicted to opiates right now. Heroin use in Russia has grown to epidemic proportions. Pat Tillman was planning on telling the American people what was going on and taking over the anti-war movement when he returned home. He was killed 2 weeks before his tour of duty was over.

In the past, the good people of Mexico were satisfied with smuggling coc aine and marijuana into the United States. Everyone was happy. Well, mostly. In recent years someone, possibly the DEA, has helped them set up the most efficient and productive methamphetamine labs the world has ever known. There is a river of pure meth running into the U.S. right now and the borders are wide open. The streets of Mexico are running red as the cartels battle it out. The old school coc aine cartels are being rounded up and executed because coc aine from South America competes with methamphetamine from Mexico and cuts into the new cartels profits.

In Mexico you will see one of the oldest themes in the world. Divide and conquer. The U.S. caused a problem, teaching them how to make meth. Then they provided a solution, selling the cartels guns so they could sit back and watch them kill each other. This is all fun and games to some members of the CIA, and DEA. They have been playing these games for years all over the world. They are making money from the meth sales. They are making money from the gun sales. They are making money off the prison systems in America. A few years down the road after the cartels have had enough killing and made enough money they will move in and help bring whoever they can control to power.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Oh, you are so on "the list" now.

You even mentioned Pat Tillman, how dare you?

Shame on you.





posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
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Since when does US Domestic law apply to another country?


US and international laws never apply to the US in any country.

The will and commands of the US government do apply to the puppet regimes in both Iraq, and Afghanistan, and to a degree in Pakistan as well. The laws are irrelevant to these subjects of the US empire.




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