CNN verifies Obama's legal birth documents in Hawaii

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 03:56 AM
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Originally posted by Vipassana
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
 


The video said that CNN polls show that 25% of Americans still question his citizenship. Its a hot issue also because Trump brings it up as well. Any presidential candidate who believes this conspiracy will basically be committing political suicide.

There is simply no legitimacy in any of the birther arguments.


Saying so does not make it so. How about offering reasons for your BELIEF that can be scrutinized, instead of declaring your OPINION as though it was a fact beyond dispute? It ain't.




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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This is all a lie. how come on the official website, the stamp is on green paper, and the close up's of the officials signature are on blue paper, and smudged at the end of officials signatures? the copy that is being held up is on light blue paper with no signature smudging and no official seal why tell me? screw cnn i can think for myself thank you very much Mr. agent! you like CNN are brainwashed by the man libs and cons alike!



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:01 AM
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Originally posted by ibegood2
how come on the official website, the stamp is on green paper, and the close up's of the officials signature are on blue paper, and smudged at the end of officials signatures?


You should get your monitor checked, they are the same!

Oh dear, there is a smudge on a signature stamp! So what?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by ibegood2
how come on the official website, the stamp is on green paper, and the close up's of the officials signature are on blue paper, and smudged at the end of officials signatures?


You should get your monitor checked, they are the same!

Oh dear, there is a smudge on a signature stamp! So what?
Do you even investagate? i think you just spout from your bottom, like i said before i got my eyes on you,



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:28 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
The public need to see the original records


No they do not - why didnt you demand to see all the previous POTUS's records?


Because I never suspected they were dual nationality Manchurian candidates - besides there have been dozens of previous candidates challenged as to their elligibility.

If a HUGE no of people are questioning his elligibility, that congress admitts that no-one ever vetted him. That the media gave him a free pass and asked no questions.

The only concievable reason as to why he will not proove he is elligable - IS BECAUSE HE IS NOT!



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
The only concievable reason as to why he will not proove he is elligable - IS BECAUSE HE IS NOT!


Except that he has proven that he is eligible - a fact that birthers totally ignore!

You may not think that he is eligible, but you are not the one he has to show he is eligible to. Obama went through exactly the same vetting process as former POTUS's did....



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by dereks
No they do not - why didnt you demand to see all the previous POTUS's records?

dude, u r getting on my nerves something fierce.

here is a copy of John McCain's Long Form Birth Certificate

www.wnd.com...

GW BUSH and GWH Bush both had to show long form
BC to enter the military. So that accounts for them.

I am still searching for Bill Clinton's LFBC.

plus another contributing factor is that Obama
has NOT released his medical records
prior to becoming a Senator.


Nearly every candidate since the 1992 election has released detailed medical records. However, Barack Obama, a relatively young candidate who was said to have been in "excellent health," refused to release his own. Instead, he simply provided a six-paragraph note from his physician briefly summarizing 21 years of doctor visits and health information.


www.wnd.com...

so we not only lack a LFBC but we also lack a medical
history. Why you ask ???
Cuz a lot of treatment was probably given by doctors
outside of the US which would ALSO prove Obama
is not a US Citizen.

The 2 are interconnected.

Show us a long form BC
and a full medical history.

Hell, even GW Bush released his medical history
which showed he had hemorrhoid trouble.

So Derek please shush about no other president
had to show this document. They DID !!!
Obama DID NOT !!!



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:40 AM
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Fore all this years it was impossible for Obama to show his birth certificate however such situation was very difficult fore him and now everything appear to be ok and people believe in that. Lol People are blind ore just stupid.
Personally I believe this is that second option.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
GW BUSH and GWH Bush both had to show long form
BC to enter the military.


Your source for that is?


plus another contributing factor is that Obama has NOT released his medical records
prior to becoming a Senator.


So show us all previous POTUS's medical records....

Also what law states that a POTUS must show them?

Even if he did show them birthers would just claim that they were forged!

Obama is the legal POTUS, even though birthers hate that fact, whining about it here will make no difference at all, Obama will even serve a 2nd term
edit on 27/4/11 by dereks because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:50 AM
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A second term? Are you sure you're not Michael Jackson? Because I could swear you're living in Never Never Land.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:56 AM
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Useless thread.

Do you honestly believe that people who claim Obama is not born in the US will EVER change their view? Even when a legal birth certificate is released, Donald Trump could easily claim it's a fake one...and then the disbelievers will disbelieve even more passionately. Who's right? God knows, but I know one thing for sure:

The guy is president of the US.

Get over it.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by boondock-saint
GW BUSH and GWH Bush both had to show long form
BC to enter the military.


Your source for that is?


ME, I was in the military and I had to show mine.
Matter of fact I had to send off for my long form
cuz they would not accept my short form.
And I trust the US Military a hell of a lot more
than I do you.
However, this was changed this past
Feb 2011 to include short form BC. But the LFBC
was still in effect when both Bush's were in the
US Navy.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:59 AM
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You know, it's funny.

I've seen so much weird stuff lately that I don't even know what to believe in anymore. Skimming through this quickly put a strange thought in this warped mind of mine... I'm sure plenty - if not all - of you have heard of those "tabloid" magazines like The Sun, Weekly World News, or The Globe, and how incredibly ridiculous they are. But, here's the thing - wouldn't it be just as easy for ANY of our reliable, credible newspapers to print completely made up stories?

Now, I'm not going completely off the deep-end here, I'm just saying it WOULD be possible to do, and it's sort of funny to me that everyone simply lives by whatever is printed in the main stream media and just laughs at the stuff printed in the tabloids.

Hell, for all I know, maybe in reality it's really the other way around - let's hope not.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:02 AM
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Originally posted by dereks
Obama is the legal POTUS, Obama will even serve a 2nd term





in ur dreams buddy

Obama has already lost the election
by waiting 2.5 yrs to produce something
that should have been produced before
the election.

and how bout that medical history too.
would like to see that as well.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
and how bout that medical history too. would like to see that as well.


Like previous POTUS's, you will not see it!



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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Give me a break, He will find nothing and hes just a BIG fool like all of them are.....He is all talk and SO full of himself its almost sickening i cant even watch him now....Mr.Big shot who thinks he knows it ALL.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by boondock-saint
and how bout that medical history too. would like to see that as well.

Like previous POTUS's, you will not see it!

dude, can't you f'ing read ???
or either you are deliberately lying !!!


Nearly every candidate since the 1992 election has released detailed medical records. However, Barack Obama, a relatively young candidate who was said to have been in "excellent health," refused to release his own. Instead, he simply provided a six-paragraph note from his physician briefly summarizing 21 years of doctor visits and health information.


www.wnd.com...



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:15 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
or either you are deliberately lying !!!


You are the one lying here, so show us all previous POTUS's medical records....

You claim that they exist

I dont know how Obama can sleep at night, knowing some birthers are desperate to see his medical records just so they can claim that they have been forged!
edit on 27/4/11 by dereks because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by skeptic_al
I'd challenge anybody to try and get a driving licence with a "Live Birth" Certificate as proof of your Identity.


Very easy to do, here is one example

"Please bring photo identification along with your original U.S. social security card and original or certified birth certificate"
www1.honolulu.gov...

How about showing a state that requires a "long form" birth certificate to get a drivers licence!


Exactly, a Original Birth Certificate, not a Certification of LIVE BIRTH

So you can be a President with a Certification of LIVE BIRTH, but you can't
get a Driving Licence with one.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by dereks
I dont know how Obama can sleep at night, knowing some birthers are desperate to see his medical records just so they can claim that they have been forged!

well I am def interested in seeing his past
medical history. But my main focus is trying
to pinpoint how Obama got those scars on
his head.





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