CNN verifies Obama's legal birth documents in Hawaii, page 3

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reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 10:49 AM by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by boondock-saint
They say the vault version of the BC
is no longer a valid and legal document...

"They" do, do they? Who is "they"? I have never heard "them" say this...

Originally posted by boondock-saint
it doesn't really matter anyway seeing the long form. It is fake as well.

Then why do you want to see it?:

Originally posted by boondock-saint
Just show the damn thing and let's see the pudding.

If the proof is in the pudding, why are you prematurely claiming it a fake? Make up your mind.

In 1995, the CIA did a DNA analysis of Obama's DNA and matched it against his supposed birth grandparents (Dunham). They did not match. Obama is not even related by blood to them or his birth certificate mother.

Where do you GET this stuff??

edit on 4/26/2011 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 10:56 AM by backinblack

Originally posted by boondock-saint
it doesn't really matter anyway
seeing the long form. It is fake as well.

In 1995, the CIA did a DNA analysis of
of Obama's DNA and matched it against
his supposed birth grandparents (Dunham).
They did not match. Obama is not even related
by blood to them or his birth certificate mother.
Which later in 1997 led to the CIA director
destroying all files concerning Obama's
maternal grandfather Stanley Dunham
so no future tests would reveal the absence
of the DNA link. This legitimizes the vault
version of the Obama BC.

Guess who was CIA Director in 1997?
George Tenent. Who was also CIA Director
during 9/11 and helped produce fake intel
for the invasion of Afghan and Iraq.

edit on 4/26/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)

What, no link to a source Boon??
Pretty wild claim with no proof, though I'd like to see it..

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 10:56 AM by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
"They" do, do they? Who is "they"? I have never heard "them" say this...

then you did not listen to the whole
video interview. It was stated in the
video.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 10:56 AM by Wildbob77

The most interesting part of this report is where they got a local resident to request a birth certificate.

He received the "Certificate of Live Birth" which the birthers are saying is not the real birth certificate.

It seems obvious to me that Obama was born in Hawaii and that nothing will ever satisfy people that don't believe it.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 10:58 AM by MikeboydUS

reply to post by boondock-saint

I said that.

Consider this if there really is a conpiracy, whats in the vault doesn't matter, heck the vault may not even exist. There are conflicting stories that all Certificates of Live Birth in the vault were destroyed in 2001. I wouldn't be surprised either if that happened. I have seen first hand thousands of birth certificates and military contracts at a VA office, some dating back to the Spanish American war shredded in mass.

If there are puppet masters, they have all strings and they can make the President whatever they want him to be. They don't hide anything. They make reality.

Personally I see more of a conspiracy in the "Birth issue" than anything. Someone is pushing it real hard and even has a multi billionare now leading the pack. Soros isn't the only one with an agenda. He has competitors.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 10:58 AM by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Where do you GET this stuff??

Wayne Madsen, former NSA.
See Madsen Report

www.opinion-maker.org...

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:03 AM by dolphinfan

reply to post by Vipassana

Some might be, but those are not smart folks. Just today, a CNN poll came out indicating that only 38% of Americans definately think Obama was born in the US

www.usatoday.com...

Presidential races are determined by very small margins. All that need happen is to have 3-5% who voted for Obama and not vote for him in 2012. Depending on what states those folks come from it could be as low as 2% and the election could easily swing on the birth certificate issue.

Obama has waited too long. If he has the proper documents he looks like a manipulative tool for not producing them, playing games to divert attention from the terrible job he's doing. What ever happens with these documents, the way the administration has buggered this under the notion of by not producing the documents to make the republicans look silly has back fired.

The question, as indicated in the poll, is a legitimate one to a majority of people, hence those pushing for the answer no longer look silly to voters. They look silly to the media elite, but not the voters. If the documents are produced birthers won't take a hit, Obama will for being a tool and not releasing them sooner. You can already see a subtle change in Republican candidates. A couple of months ago it was " just drop this business and lets move forward". Now they are saying "I think he was born here, but lets get the documents out there to satisfy folks and move on". Big difference

In 2013 we will find out that this was a significant issue in the election, either by swinging it or making it a lot closer.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:05 AM by crawgator406

reply to post by Vipassana

what they are showing there is a certificate of live birth. that is not a birth certificate when my daughter was born we were mailed her birth certificate. you can get certificate of live birth for the state that you allege you were born in, doesn't mean that you were born there.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:09 AM by MikeboydUS

Originally posted by crawgator406
reply to post by Vipassana

what they are showing there is a certificate of live birth. that is not a birth certificate when my daughter was born we were mailed her birth certificate. you can get certificate of live birth for the state that you allege you were born in, doesn't mean that you were born there.

Not in Hawaii.

They have had one form since 2001. They went to a computer database then and stopped using the Certificate system. If you get a form in Hawaii its a Certification, as opposed to certificate, printed from the database.

The Certification printed from the database is used for passports, military service, liscenses, etc.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:10 AM by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by boondock-saint
it doesn't really matter anyway seeing the long form. It is fake as well.

Then why do you want to see it?:

cuz hopefully, the data contained on it
can further incriminate Obama's maternal
grandfather Stanley Dunham as having
ties as being a double agent in the
FBI investigation of him and his wife
Madelyn Dunham for espionage against
the US in passing blueprints of the B-29
to foreign intelligence assets after WW2.
This investigation was halted by the CIA.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:11 AM by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by boondock-saint
then you did not listen to the whole video interview. It was stated in the video.

The reporter said it's not certified by the state and not supposed to be used for official purposes. NOT that it's no longer a valid and legal document.

I'm glad I watched the video, though. That was good.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
www.opinion-maker.org...

No mention of DNA, analysis or 1995 in that article. But that's off topic. You believe whatever you want about Obama's blood.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:11 AM by angel119

In my opinion, it doesn't matter as he ought to be impeached anyway.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:14 AM by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by boondock-saint
www.opinion-maker.org...

No mention of DNA, analysis or 1995 in that article. But that's off topic. You believe whatever you want about Obama's blood.

oops sorry, wrong link
lol

www.obamaconspiracy.org...

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:15 AM by MikeboydUS

reply to post by boondock-saint

How would the data on his Certificate of Live Birth have anything to do with that?

Its just birth form not a journal of spook stuff.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:21 AM by boondock-saint

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by boondock-saint

How would the data on his Certificate of Live Birth have anything to do with that?
Its just birth form not a journal of spook stuff.

we do not know that yet
until we see it.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:27 AM by MikeboydUS

reply to post by boondock-saint

Its just a simple document. It doesn't even have religion as a block on it.

How would that give any info about espionage?

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:40 AM by PsykoOps

Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
I am no birther but we will get the scoop once Donald Trump's billions of dollars at work come up with the official story. Like CNN can't be paid or bargained with from the freaking White House?? COME ON.....

Come up with the official story. As in make it up. I'm sure there is thousands of people now ready to testify and some even might come up with some form of proof now

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:45 AM by boondock-saint

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by boondock-saint

Its just a simple document. It doesn't even have religion as a block on it.

and how would you know this ???
Have you seen it ???

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:48 AM by PsykoOps

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by boondock-saint
www.opinion-maker.org...

No mention of DNA, analysis or 1995 in that article. But that's off topic. You believe whatever you want about Obama's blood.

oops sorry, wrong link
lol

www.obamaconspiracy.org...

Someone wrote into a blog about it. It has to be true.

reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 11:49 AM by MikeboydUS

reply to post by boondock-saint

I have seen the format of the 1961 forms.

They are available online and CNN showed one last night. Not a whole lot of detail on them.

Here's a 1962, its pretty much identical: