Nasa Issues Warning of Solar Superstorm 2012 - "One Billion Could Die!", page 3
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reply posted on 25-4-2011 @ 08:50 PM by Trublbrwing
reply to post by FarBeyondDriven69


NASA?
Didn't those guys (and gals) send people to walk on the moon 40 years ago and then suddenly stop the program for unknown reasons? They brought back rocks, shot some videos and decided there was nothing else to see there so they just stopped going. Makes perfect sense to me.
NASA has absolutely zero credibility in my opinion.


reply posted on 25-4-2011 @ 09:25 PM by OptimisticPessimist
reply to post by studio500




in the...video David Morisson from NASA says that there is no threat from a solar flare.


Thanks for posting that vid. It was factual and diplomatic, if a little elusive near the relevant end.

Genuinely, good on him for actually taking the time to attempt to allay a swath of people's fears, to succinctly address the Nibiru story and to genuinely try and ease the worries of what must be so many of the younger generation, feeding and fearing off wild stories and often without the benefit of any distinct wisdom to know better.
Likely not aided by it all being experienced in such a malleable and suggestible environment as the internet is, either.

Mind you, the attempt to 'connect to the demographic' they may be imagining by way of their reference to him in the graphic title as: "David Morrison, NASA Space Scientist" and not actually: "David Morrison, NAI Senior Scientist", could be construed as being a little patronising and 'dumbed down'...the title "Space Scientist" just seems too child-like...but I'm sure nobody would really notice, if I'm honest...!

In my humble opinion, not every collaborating factor is always considered in science, as there's just as much stubbornness as can be witnessed on the other side of the fence, that being religion.
Often scientists can be just as stubbornly against being shown their errors as can any religious apologetics, when juggling with the "Ultimate Truths of the Cosmos" and, like their metaphysically-minded opponent, or others of exceptionally high intuition but poor self-control, they can often be led by their ego to assume that what they know, actually equates to the sum of the whole, at least until they are finally proved to be wrong, as so many well-renowned, intellectual examples in our collective histories can attest to!


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reply posted on 25-4-2011 @ 09:52 PM by Ahmose
It's pretty much a given.. if NASA tells you one thing..
you can expect the complete opposite. lol

We all know that NASA is in bed with the military, the NSA, DHS, etc etc etc.....
and anyone in their right mind knows not to trust what the people from these agencies say or do...
So why would anyone in their right mind believe what NASA says?

NASA knows what's coming....
I know what's coming...
Many of you know what's coming...

and guess what?
I'm excited for it! lol
I can't wait.

I would prefer if it waited a few months at least.. maybe 6 or 7....
but if it happens before... whatever!

as my friends Crosby, Stills, and Nash once said....
it's been a long time comin....


and not everyone will perish..
Only those who are supposed to...
So why fight it?
Why fear it?
Why run from it?

Embrace it.
Gonna be sweet.

Plus..
We will have more Aurora Borealis in the skies than we've ever seen or thought possible!
Even if you live somewhere that never sees themm.
you'll see them!
and it's going to be sweeet!

Anyway....
I've got my custom made Faraday cages for my most prized/important electronics. lol

Really though..
Enough kidding around...

"The Big One" is on it's way.....
it's already been written........

and I personally, really am excited about it.


Bring it Sol!

Blessings <3

oh, found a good follow up vid...
"rejoice, rejoice, we have no choice but to carry on"
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reply posted on 25-4-2011 @ 10:10 PM by clearmind
so here is some info on damage caused by some past solar flares..en.wikipedia.org...


The variations in the earth's magnetic field also tripped circuit breakers on Hydro-Québec's power grid. The utility's very long transmission lines and the fact that most of Quebec sits on a large rock shield prevented current flowing through the earth, finding a less resistant path along the 735 kV power lines


this is an interesting site with a list of past solar storms ect..www.solarstorms.org...

couple quotes
1972


AT&T reported a voltage surge of 60 volts on their coaxial telephone cable between Chicago and Nebraska. Another 30 minute shutdown of phone service on Bell's cable link between Plano, Illinois and Cascade, Iowa was also attributed to the storm.

march 13, 1998


March 13, electrical ground currents created by the magnetic storm found their way into the power grid of the Hydro-Quebec Power Authority. Giant capacitors tried to regulate these currents but failed within a few seconds as automatic protective systems took them off-line one by one. Suddenly, the entire 9,500 megawatt output from Hydro-Quebec's La Grande Hydroelectric Complex found itself without proper regulation. Power swings tripped the supply lines from the 2000 megawatt Churchill Falls generation complex, and 18 seconds later, the entire Quebec power grid collapsed. Six million people were affected as they woke to find no electricity to see them through a cold Quebec wintry night.


so its how the storm will affect the things that humans need now to stay alive...imagine large cities without power...


reply posted on 25-4-2011 @ 10:12 PM by BobAthome
reply to post by theabsolutetruth



Pay close attention too the date,,

I forgot how damn good this series was , used too watch it as a kid. Had too watch all three parts.

And of course logically Leonard Nimoy (Spock) would not make a mistake.

www.youtube.com...
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reply posted on 25-4-2011 @ 10:43 PM by FarBeyondDriven69
Originally posted by Ahmose
It's pretty much a given.. if NASA tells you one thing..
you can expect the complete opposite. lol

We all know that NASA is in bed with the military, the NSA, DHS, etc etc etc.....
and anyone in their right mind knows not to trust what the people from these agencies say or do...
So why would anyone in their right mind believe what NASA says?

NASA knows what's coming....
I know what's coming...
Many of you know what's coming...

and guess what?
I'm excited for it! lol
I can't wait.

I would prefer if it waited a few months at least.. maybe 6 or 7....
but if it happens before... whatever!

as my friends Crosby, Stills, and Nash once said....
it's been a long time comin....


and not everyone will perish..
Only those who are supposed to...
So why fight it?
Why fear it?
Why run from it?

Embrace it.
Gonna be sweet.

Plus..
We will have more Aurora Borealis in the skies than we've ever seen or thought possible!
Even if you live somewhere that never sees themm.
you'll see them!
and it's going to be sweeet!

Anyway....
I've got my custom made Faraday cages for my most prized/important electronics. lol

Really though..
Enough kidding around...

"The Big One" is on it's way.....
it's already been written........

and I personally, really am excited about it.


Bring it Sol!

Blessings <3

oh, found a good follow up vid...
"rejoice, rejoice, we have no choice but to carry on"
edit on 25-4-2011 by Ahmose because: (no reason given)
I hope you are right but I have something for you to think about that mite lead you to really think about your post here. What happens to every nuclear power plant on earth when a flare from the Sun shorts all or most of the wires out in them and they can't cool the rods any more, do you think there will be anything left alive on earth? If thats not enough a big enough flare from the Sun could even wipe the atmosphere from the Earth along with all life leaving the Earth sterile.


reply posted on 25-4-2011 @ 10:44 PM by UdderlyInsane
reply to post by BobAthome



December 24, 2011
I am so not even ready I thought I had more time. Well that is just disturbing. Thank you for sharing that though


reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 12:02 AM by newcovenant
reply to post by Seekeye2



I didn't see this one embedded but I might be mistaken.
FOX reporting on this news


reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 12:07 AM by FarBeyondDriven69
Originally posted by Ahmose
Originally posted by FarBeyondDriven69
Originally posted by Ahmose
I hope you are right but I have something for you to think about that mite lead you to really think about your post here. What happens to every nuclear power plant on earth when a flare from the Sun shorts all or most of the wires out in them and they can't cool the rods any more, do you think there will be anything left alive on earth? If thats not enough a big enough flare from the Sun could even wipe the atmosphere from the Earth along with all life leaving the Earth sterile.


That is a very good point my friend..
and one I cannot argue or disagree with.

Very good question(s).
Questions I cannot answer,
but you are absolutely right..
that is a BIG concern!

I guess there is nothing we would be able to do about it anyway...
Other than hope for some kind of "Divine intervention" or something.

I guess I just have to have faith that The Universe knows what It's doing and everything will turn out exactly as it's supposed to....
and if everything turns out exactly as it's supposed to (whether we understand it or not),
Then who are we to decide whether it is less than perfect, or not?

There is a good reason for everything that happens, no matter what it is..
Even if we fail to see or understand it from our own little perspectives...

I dunno...
But your thought does concern me a bit...
Thanks for posting it.. <3
Thanks I agree with you, Divine intervention is what I pray for every night for us all its scary as hell to think about what could happen to us and like you said the only thing that keeps me sane is hoping everything turns out exactly as it's supposed to even if we fail to see or understand it from our own little perspectives.



reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 12:12 AM by babybunnies
If there is a significantly sized solar flare frying all electronics on the planet, most people would be completely reduced to nothingness, almost immediately.

We are now more vulnerable to EMP than at any time in the history of the planet. We have lost the ability to do things without electronics and machines, even simple things that we've done for thousands of years, the last 2-3 generations have forgotten how to do.

As much as many people on this site have bravado in that they say "this won't affect me as I'll just go live in the woods somewhere with a mountain of supplies" I wonder how many people can actually do this if they had to? Have you tried doing this for a year to see how you do in your chosen "habitat"? Likely you'll have to last much longer than a year.

Most people would be at a complete loss if they weren't able to call 911 in an emergency. Hey, we even see that people complain that they don't know what to do when the power goes out for a few hours in the winter.

People don't have common sense any more, and have a huge sense of entitlement that "someone else will be responsible for making sure I'm ok".

In the first few weeks of a national emergency, millions would die simply from lack of medication. Many medical ailments can be fixed without medication, but people tend to prefer to become reliant on pills instead of diet control or exercise to fix maladies.

Millions more would display symptoms of withdrawal as their electronic devices were forcibly removed due to the EMP, and would be completely useless without their electronics.

Millions more will die simply because they lack any sort of emergency plan, and lack the common sense to realize that a central help point would likely be setup at community halls, schools, fire stations, police stations, etc.

Millions more will die because "no one checked to see if they were ok". This happens every time there is a heatwave, sometimes hundreds of people die because they think they'll be fine if they save money by not turning on air conditioners.

Common sense ain't so common any more, and is your best friend in a survival situation.


reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 01:22 AM by midwest
All it takes is one 1859 Carrington Event type storm to wipe out modern technology. The earth today is far more populated than it was in 1859 (most sources say around 1.2 billion) and much more reliant on technology to sustain that many people (currently nearing 7 billion). Once you remove farming equipment, water treatment, medicine factories, and automobiles from the equation, you begin to realize the potential for problems. And that's not even talking about potential nuclear meltdowns!

Warring over resources is likely, first on a local level. Rule of law will quickly break down. Once the local population is thinned out by riots and the like, those left will soon form treaties and ban together to invade neighboring countries for more resources. Limited nuclear attacks are possible if governments have properly secured them in hardened facilities, which is likely.

In the end, whoever controls the clean, non-radiated water supply is king.

These solar storms are real. They have happened before. They have never happened when humanity is living off of technology. The Carrington Event saw aurora as far south as the Caribbean islands and caused telegraph poles across the U.S. to catch fire. Imagine what that would do to the massive grid that we have now? Or our tiny circuited microchips? Ask Canadians living in Quebec in 1989. That was a baby solar storm and it knocked out their grid for half a day.

Like they always used to say about New Orleans and the "big hurricane" that would someday come, and like they say about LA and the "big one" earthquake, you can also say about the next massive solar storm: It's not a matter of if, but a matter of when. Be prepared, deny ignorance. These are real events. You can't speculate that they won't happen. Only when, and they are very unpredictable.


reply posted on 26-4-2011 @ 01:40 AM by Seekeye2
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