ok i am a hoosier and i have my problems with this

no money from the public money should be going to any private schools.

and i do agree with the sentiment of the education in america is everything but pro american.

history should be taught as it is history theres should be no bias just the who what where and when

and thats its.

private schools derive their incomes from that tutiton cost and that means people who are not sending their own children there should not be paying for someone who is.

if they start receiving money from the public that opens a whole other can of worms meaning they will be able to tell them what they can or cant teach and how to teach it.

there is a reason that private schools produce smarter students than public schools do and thats due to the non interference of the state.

thats my take.

means people who are not sending their own children there should not be paying for someone who is.

So, why not apply that across the board? Basically tie the money to the student, not the district. Let the parents decide where to send the students. Introduce a little competition into education. Deadwood teachers would have to get off their a$$es and do something. Otherwise that school closes for lack of attendance. Schools wanting to stay open would have to up their game and students everywhere win.

Voucher programs are garbage. Send your kids to a public school, OR send your kids to a private school on your own dime. Making the public reimburse private schools is ridiculous. This republican Carlin Yoder just ups the insanity with this "pro-American" rhetoric. Maybe Indiana families should be cross-checked against the terrorist watch list like 9/11 first responders.

The debate over whether Indiana should spend public tax dollars on private schools—is over.

The school voucher bill has now passed both houses of the Indiana General Assembly and could be on its way to the governor’s desk.

On Thursday, the Indiana State Senate approved the measure by a vote of 28 to 22. Nine Republicans joined all 13 Democrats in voting against the bill. The approval came after an amendment designed to ensure that only pro-American private schools were eligible to receive state money.

The Republicans control both house and senate in Indiana and they approved this. All the dems voted against it. All voucher programs do is allow a for-profit corporation come between the tax payers and funding public education. what makes this bill worse is it now wants to use vouchers for private schools but only those that meet these republicans "pro-American" agenda, whatever the h*** that is.

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776

means people who are not sending their own children there should not be paying for someone who is.

So, why not apply that across the board? Basically tie the money to the student, not the district. Let the parents decide where to send the students. Introduce a little competition into education. Deadwood teachers would have to get off their a$$es and do something. Otherwise that school closes for lack of attendance. Schools wanting to stay open would have to up their game and students everywhere win.

Now, don't go bringing logic and "fairness" into the equation.

I feel this will lead to the re-admittance of the pledge of allegiance into the class room in areas that have removed it and I find it disturbing as oath or pledge is a contract and children are not able to enter into contract. This is a way of conditioning children to accept that contract as adults so they don't read the fine print

i pledge alliegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands one nation under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

nothing wrong with teaching kids that this country is a republic and not a democracy

and that republic for which we were founded as stands as one united voice

under the eyes of a god from which all those rights in the constitution deems every man woman and child in america has and that they can not be abridged.

and to teach our children that there is liberty meaning freedom and justice no person is above the law.

personally i see nothing wrong with the pledge.

but thats just me

As school districts try to keep up with fewer and fewer dollars to keep going, I as a taxpayer worry that vouchers will somehow end up costing me more down the road....I can hear a cry for a new millage already

As an American, I have no problem with the American flag being displayed in private school settings, or in the Pledge of Allegiance being recited.
I went to private school for 12 years.
Said the Pledge as required.
Always had classroom flags.
When did that change......it should not have.

I don't want to go all crazy nationalistic here, but what is wrong with pride in Country???

Here in Texas, at least for a while, not sure if it still stands, parents who chose to send their kids to private school, but couldn't afford it, got a full free ride from the state. It did not, in fact, cause the public schools to get better. They pretty much stayed the same. As far as I could tell, as a kid going to school, not a whole hell of a lot changed at all except we lost a few classmates to the private schools. Indiana could be different, but mostly I'm pretty sure people are people wherever they are, and it isn't gonna help anybody but the kids who get to escape from public school because of the vouchers. Of course, Texas's schools are mostly funded by local taxes instead of any cash coming in from the state or federal level, and I do not know how Indiana does it. Whereas, I'm reasonably sure that the money for private school tuition assistance came from the state. So yeah, what didn't screw us over too much here may totally bone Indiana.

As far as the pledge and the flag and stuff... Again, some law passed in Texas while I was in high school, which mandated that every morning we had to say the US pledge of allegiance and the Texas pledge of allegiance, as well as hold a moment of silence so whoever wanted to pray could pray. Most of the teachers were gung ho about it, but the students... it was amazing how many "spontaneous" coughing fits and bouts of hiccups we had during the pledges and moments of silence, and how many people said "under [Satan, Buddha, Dog, Superman, Yo Momma, etc.]". Yeah, they can try. Oh, they can try... but school kids are a lot less docile than legislators like to think.

That isn't to say this crap isn't a bit outrageous, because it is on many, many levels. That isn't to say that the slow erosion of sanity in this country, attempted indoctrination of schoolchildren, and other tomfoolery isn't a problem, because it is.

I'm just sayin, backlash is nice sometimes when they've got your hands tied.