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Hawaiian Senator said Obama not releasing long-form BC to hide identity or citizenship of his father

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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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I don't care for Obama, but Trump needs to just stop. He's embarassing himself. He needs to stop playing games and just come out with the info he claims that his team of investigators found. Otherwise he's making himself look like a fool. Jmho.




posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Here is his full birth certificate




Looks like a full birth certificate

Notice as well, this has the Dr's name, the registrars name, the official stamp is signed, it also has a certificate number which can be traced, and a phone number of the issuing office if you wish to check it



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard

Originally posted by Sky watcher
Everyone here that does not hold a huge flag supporting Obama has the brains to know Obama is at least hiding his identity.

The simple FACT that this fraud of a President spent millions to keep anyone from getting hands on his real info should prove, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT HE IS UTTERLY LYING TO ALL YOU AND WAS NOT BORN IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!

ANYONE WHO DENYS OBAMA IS NOT A FRAUD needs to have their . examined or deported from this great land for ignorance.

When most Black Americans I talk to don't trust him as far as they can throw him, you know somethings up. One is my Doctor!!!








I heard he was constructed from dna of malcom x and was born on a ufo.


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I hear his toes are webbed and he has gills in his throat. How did he get that by the CIA when they vetted him? I'll bet the PTB are running CIA and NSA and hid that little gem.

I like your reasoning about Black Americans too. I trust their judgement only on things they dont like. Like Racism.

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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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There has got to be a reason when Obama, rushed to hanalulu, in 2007 i might add to get a birth cirtificate that would be legal , but it do's not have the raised seal. i have a replacment also but it has the seal from the county of deed's that is all people are wary about, Obama was a nobody back then, that is why the document smell's of N.W.O.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by ibegood2
but it do's not have the raised seal.


Why continue with that lie? Pictures of Obama's birth certificate with a raised seal have been posted in this thread....



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by PrinceDreamer
Here is his full birth certificate


Just another fake. When will the birthers stop?
www.snopes.com...



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:58 AM
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I don't think snopes is the be all grail of unquestionable truth.
I like Trump, and I'll vote for him. I find the birth stuff interesting and entertaining.
But I think Trump knows business, and this nation is failing, and I think he can help it.
edit on 26-4-2011 by tom502 because: misspell



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by filosophia

It could have to do with what his name is on the birth certificate, who is actually listed as his father, the citizenship of the father,' Slom elaborated.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

I knew it! Barack Hussein Obama's father is Bill Clinton!

I just knew it!




posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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You know I'm starting to wonder if this movement, is psychogenic like mass hysteria or possibly even memetic and viral, e.g. planned.

Turbulent periods in history are filled with this kind of phenomena, some anomalous and some man made.

Trump, a multi billionaire, has given the movement someone with Ethos to rally around. I am actually concerned how far this may end up going before the 2012 elections, especially in light of global unrest and disorder.

Its like a snowball rolling downhill.


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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by tom502
I don't think snopes is the be all grail of unquestionable truth.
I like Trump, and I'll vote for him. I find the birth stuff interesting and entertaining.
But I think Trump knows business, and this nation is failing, and I think he can help it.
edit on 26-4-2011 by tom502 because: misspell


Snopes does not have a political agenda and is a centrist organization. Their sole and exclusive purpose is to issue truth regardless of where it leads.

Snopes does not play into the "Left-v-Right" paradigm and only endorses truth.

In this case Snopes is the END ALL BE ALL AUTHOURITY.

Give it a rest and for the sake of all things good let this thread die and cycle itself into oblivion. The more The Birthers try and feed this lie the dumber the group as a whole looks.

The last thing we need now is a corporate tycoon in the White House.
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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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What HI did is after the election they changed the Policy. You can't apply for native HI programs with out the Long Form Birth Certificate. HI has a program that entitles native Hawaiians to special programs. The only way to verify that you are a native Hawaiian is to produce a copy of your Long Form Birth Certificate.


FALSE.

The long form, if the applicant still has it is helpful to the Hawai'ian Natives programs for its genealogical research.

It is not required, the information can be provided in other forms, and the applicant is not disadvantaged in anyway if they don't have one.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by PrinceDreamer
Here is his full birth certificate




Looks like a full birth certificate

Notice as well, this has the Dr's name, the registrars name, the official stamp is signed, it also has a certificate number which can be traced, and a phone number of the issuing office if you wish to check it

Since this birth certificate says 'Barack Hussein Obama', would that not make it a fake document.

His birth name is Barry Soetoro.

He changed his name to 'Barack Husseign Obama' for some reason.

I thought his mother never married his father?

Confused!?!?! Who is on first?

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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by ibegood2
but it do's not have the raised seal.


Why continue with that lie? Pictures of Obama's birth certificate with a raised seal have been posted in this thread....
Have you looked at the page that shows the stamp on GREEN paper? and the others are on BLUE? can you explain that one for me , and also the pages that show the close up's are not even on the birth cirtificate smell's like N.W.O. to me what is your reason for overlooking the fact's are you some kind of. i got my eye's on you!



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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There is another video you should all watch, I am not sure how far this investigation has gone, but someone has obtained (Allegedly) Barack's full birth certificate, only problem is, it is from Kenya.


Dude, Lucas Smith is a convicted forger. He makes a living out of scams like this. He has never been to Africa, let alone Kenya.

The document he is showing in this video is commonly called the POSFKBC on the intertubes. POS stands for exactly what you think it stands for.
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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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Obama's popularity is going down hill fast. He will run in 2012, he will spend millions trying to make himself look good and brag about the little things he's accomplished. But, in the end, Americans are tired of all the wars, economic woes and being ignored in favor of big business. He will lose.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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POS= Piles of Snuggies?


Is this the same guy who took altered Commonwealth certificates and tried to pass them off as legit?



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:18 AM
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The copy of the COLB from Fight The Smears is missing two things. No raised seal and no signature.


FALSE. The image of the COLB on Fight The Smears shows only the front, the signature is on the back. The raised seal is difficult to see due to the flat scan but has been shown to be visible.

FactCheck examined the original document, and took photos from many angles, front and back. The signature and the raised seal exist.

And you know it.



Secondly show me any of the secondary evidence.


Since he has a valid birth certificate, there is no need for corroborating secondary evidence.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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I agree with you there buddy. Read my mind.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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Unless we get some drastic alternatives we are all going to lose. Ron Paul is like Obi Wan. Where is our Luke? We need someone who can face Darth Vader, metaphorically speaking of course.

Right now both parties look like trash and I don't see how we are going to get out of this.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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But, anytime they refer to a "Birth Certificate" they are referring to a "long form" raised seal birth certificate,


False. This is just silly. They want a certified document that contains specific information, presented in the format that the State specifies as proper and correct. The Hawai'ian COLB is exactly that.



If they wanted or accepted a "Certificate of Live Birth" they would state that clearly. The words, "Birth Certificate" and " Certificate of Live Birth" are not interchangable and are referring to 2 completely seperate documents,


False. This is even sillier. The words "Birth Certificate" are a generic term that refers any certified document issued by a legal jurisdiction (city, county, state) that contains information about a birth event.

At the top of Obama's Birth Certificate, it says "CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH". At the bottom it says "ANY ALTERATIOINS INVALIDATE THIS CERTIFICATE".

A certification is a "CERTIFIED STATEMENT". A certificate is a document that carries a "CERTIFIED STATEMENT". The "CERTIFIED STATEMENT" on the COLB certifies that the information about the birth event described on it is guaranteed to be correct by the State Government.

You are being willfully ignorant and the forum demands that you deny ignorance, not willfully embrace it.



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