A response to the claims that the Tea Party is racist.

Originally posted by jimnuggits
reply to post by incrediblelousminds

 

Are we all sexist and homophobes too?

How about all of us with mixed heritage?

If you can't understand that racism is more than just whites hating blacks, and that is is deeply embedded in our culture, effecting the way we ALL view the world, then you are likely one of those so unconscious of their programming as to perpetuate it unbeknown to themselves.

To simplify racism to cartoon images of the klan is to ignore everything e know about race and class in america.

Originally posted by jimnuggits
reply to post by mishigas

 

I'm not calling for a 'quota system,' spin ninja. The ratio of 'race' to 'race' should be a mirror image of the society at large, if a group is to be seen as a true representation of the people it serves. Tea Party? Not.

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So the best man or woman for the job isn't a plank in the Tea Party movement? Can you honestly tell this board Trump is a better option than Obama? Can you honestly tell me all the Republicans who voted to kill old folks is better than Obama?

Let's put this in perspective. Obama wants to save a program that helps everyone no matter what. He wants to institute regulations that help everyone. He wants to shore up our infrastructure. He wants to do things that help ALL of us.

The republicans want to privatize help. They want to give tax breaks to billionaires who don't need it. History has shown time and time again that cutting taxes DOES NOT CREATE JOBS. It creates wealth for the top 1%.

And before I forget. What exactly has Obama screwed America on? Be honest. Beside the housing bailout, what has he done that has made us worse off than not doing anything at all?

That housing bailout was a crock. Half of Americans in homes shouldn't be in homes. They should be renting. I knew a couple who bought a home in their teens. They had lawn furniture as regular furniture for darn near a decade. It was my brother and his wife. Living off PB and J. Had a kid and went right on government assistance. Now they are underwater with Jacques Cousteau. They would need to live to 112 to pay off their mortgage.

The American Dream is just that. It's a dream to 98% of us. It can turn into a nightmare if that 2% gets way to greedy. And that happens about every 20 years. 98% of us try to follow the social and economic contract. But that top 1 or 2 percent never do. They sit and accumulate wealth without ever re-investing in America.

Originally posted by LosLobos
reply to post by OptimusSubprime

 

I have no problem with that. I never thought the Tea Party was "all" racists.

Just like not all people who need government help are lazy. Just like not all public workers are living high off the hog. Just like not all Mexicans are illegal. Just like not all black Presidents are socialists muslims. Just like not everyone needs to show their birth certificate because a bunch of loons want to see it. Just like not all media megastars personally insult the first lady and her children. Just like not all republicans want to do away with social programs. Just a lot of them.

If you agree with that then I will agree not all Tea Party folks are racists.

Deal?

Sorry for replying to myself but I think its necessary. I am assuming there is no deal correct?

reply to post by LosLobos

So the best man or woman for the job isn't a plank in the Tea Party movement?

I dont think it is a plank. I know its not a liberal plank, since they are overly concerned with quotas, and since they voted for Obama simply because he is black.

Can you honestly tell this board Trump is a better option than Obama?

Alfred E. Neuman is a better option than Obama.

Can you honestly tell me all the Republicans who voted to kill old folks is better than Obama?

Please, with the bullcrap!

Let's put this in perspective. Obama wants to save a program that helps everyone no matter what. He wants to institute regulations that help everyone. He wants to shore up our infrastructure. He wants to do things that help ALL of us.

It is not goverments role to be our mommy and daddy. As you stated

The republicans want to privatize help

Its always more efficient to privatize. Want examples of government control? Amtrak and the post office, for starters. SS and Medicare.

They want to give tax breaks to billionaires who don't need it.

Obama has funneled so much money to the unions that he should be in jail right now.

History has shown time and time again that cutting taxes DOES NOT CREATE JOBS. It creates wealth for the top 1%

...and jobs for all of us as the wealthy re-invest their wealth.

The only way gov creates jobs is by hiring more lifelong incompetent bureacrats, according to quota systems. Bureaucrats that we have to pay for through more, higher taxes.

Originally posted by wakeUpOrDie

I notice you never answered if you voted for Barrack Obama. Might that be because the answer is obviously YES!

Yep I sure did vote for him. Better him than the other choice.
Doesn't mean I want him in office either just more than the other nutbar. Although he hasn't done such a bad job so far.

That explains a lot, that you are easy to dupe because the guy had absolutely no executive experience and spent millions to hide his past. hell he might not even be legally qualified to be POTUS

Actually he spent nothing to hide his past. This is a common republican automaton talking point.
I'm just going to assume you mean the certificate of live birth that is given out for everyone in hawaii who requests a copy of their birth certificate.

Not only are you a troll and the ONLY ONE on this thread who thinks Rush Limbaugh is a racist, you have proven that you have no idea how to think. so then you resort to calling me 12 and drinking koolaid! lolol

OK let me get this straight..you're condemning me for calling you a 12 year old and someone who drinks koolaid all the while you call me dumb, a troll and state that I have no idea how to think????
WOW! Do you actually even read what you type

Your posts get more amusing by the minute

Originally posted by mishigas


since they voted for Obama simply because he is black.

Seriously??

SERIOUSLY?

You are ACTUALLY arguing that every single person who voted for Obama did so because he was Black?

What would you say if someone said that EVERYONE who didnt vote for him did so because he was black? Would you find that statement to be accurate, too?

reply to post by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by mishigas

since they voted for Obama simply because he is black.

Seriously??

SERIOUSLY?

You are ACTUALLY arguing that every single person who voted for Obama did so because he was Black?

I dont think I said that, did I? Let me check...nope, I didnt.

But if I did, Id just be following the premise of some that the TPM is racist.

What would you say if someone said that EVERYONE who didnt vote for him did so because he was black? Would you find that statement to be accurate, too?

Well, I know some who didnt. Not everyone.

Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by incrediblelousminds

 

Originally posted by mishigas

since they voted for Obama simply because he is black.

Seriously??

SERIOUSLY?

You are ACTUALLY arguing that every single person who voted for Obama did so because he was Black?

I dont think I said that, did I? Let me check...nope, I didnt.

Actually, yes you did. It's quoted right there above. Not sure how you can deny that now Good thing I tok a screen shot, too, just in case

Again again here: "I dont think it is a plank. I know its not a liberal plank, since they are overly concerned with quotas, and since they voted for Obama simply because he is black. "

reply to post by jfj123


Care to submit evidence that would suggest Im dependent on social welfare? You do understand the definition of social welfare correct? Shall I define it for you so that you correctly comprehend the term?

Based on your non-argument and continued efforts to portray yourself as an uneducated half wit ( which wasnt to difficult) would suggest that your trolling efforts are baffling at best.

Troll on ~ You do that very well...the only thing you do well.

*Yawn*

Oh what's this? Racists trying to say they're not racist?

Cool story.

The Tea Party consists of old white folks and rich white kids who are bitter that they have someone they didn't want in office. And to top it off: He's Black.

I wouldn't be surprised if some Republican folks out there had heart attacks or strokes once the current president was elected.

reply to post by incrediblelousminds


Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by mishigas

since they voted for Obama simply because he is black.

Seriously??


SERIOUSLY?

You are ACTUALLY arguing that every single person who voted for Obama did so because he was Black?

I dont think I said that, did I? Let me check...nope, I didnt.



Actually, yes you did. It's quoted right there above. Not sure how you can deny that now

No, I didnt say ^ You are ACTUALLY arguing that every single person who voted for Obama did so because he was Black^

now did I? See, there were independents and conservatives that voted for him also. Or is that too complicated to understand?

Good thing I tok a screen shot, too, just in case.

Just in case what?

Again again here: "I dont think it is a plank. I know its not a liberal plank, since they are overly concerned with quotas, and since they voted for Obama simply because he is black. "

Please, stop talking trash. Nobody means every single, whether it is liberals, islamic terrorists, or whatever.

But you already knew that, didnt you? So stop wasting bandwidth with your trolling.

reply to post by SeventhSeal


Thanks for adding absolutely nothing to the debate.

We already have several trolls fishing here; we dont need another.

Under Obama we will have to deal with government bureaucracy when it comes to health care.

Under Ryan we will have to deal with people who can barely speak English if I call about my coverage.

I have to be honest. I would take government bureaucracy over outsourced Republican jobs.

reply to post by mishigas


The NBA doesn't represent the people of the US when it comes to laws, genius.

And what's wrong with profit? Have you learned nothing from Enron, Madoff, Worldcom, Lehman Brothers, and AIG?

It's hard to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

reply to post by jimnuggits

The NBA doesn't represent the people of the US when it comes to laws, genius.

So? Neither does the TPM.

And why didnt you answer the question about demographics?

And what's wrong with profit? Have you learned nothing from Enron, Madoff, Worldcom, Lehman Brothers, and AIG?

So what? Just throwing out company names like some horror movie announcer is supposed to prove what about profit?

It's hard to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

Youre that sensitive, are you? Need to resort to ad hominem attacks when you lose, do you? How sad.

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by jfj123

 

Care to submit evidence that would suggest Im dependent on social welfare? You do understand the definition of social welfare correct? Shall I define it for you so that you correctly comprehend the term?

Based on your non-argument and continued efforts to portray yourself as an uneducated half wit ( which wasnt to difficult) would suggest that your trolling efforts are baffling at best.

I like the way you troll but complain I'm trolling Again, you amuse me
As for being uneducated, I have 3 degrees and am a small business owner....Actually I own 2 S-Corps
Us half wits do pretty well huh ?

Troll on ~ You do that very well...the only thing you do well.

edit on 25-4-2011 by Whereweheaded because: (no reason given)

As for social programs, here are a few:

Welfare
Medicare
Medicaid
Public Works
The Military
Public Transportation
Libraries and Public Schools

Have you utilized any of these social programs?

Let's be perfectly clear what I said...
Here is my EXACT quote:
"Wanna talk about your unconstitutional social welfare program or other social programs which you benefit from, make a thread and we can chat about them. "
The above are social programs.

reply to post by jfj123


Im fully aware what social programs are. Further, I do not utilize any of the mentioned. You claim you have degrees, and yet have been pointed out by many other posters of your illogical thought processes. Sounds to me your alleged degrees were bought online?

I like the way you troll but complain I'm trolling

I made valid arguments, that contradicted your statements. I stated that I heard nothing in your submitted source that would suggest anything racist from Rush. By me questioning the legitimacy of your sources, Im a troll? Especially when I have asked questions you have yet to identify.

You stated this:

I've posted a bunch of audio and video

And yet all of the audio you submitted did nothing for your argument.

I bet you think Abraham Lincoln was a swell guy too?

Your one of those stereotypes, that wants to judge and label people that dont agree with your stance.



Degree FAIL!

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by jfj123

 

Im fully aware what social programs are. Further, I do not utilize any of the mentioned. You claim you have degrees, and yet have been pointed out by many other posters of your illogical thought processes. Sounds to me your alleged degrees were bought online?

You didn't go to public school? Never been to a library? WOW ! I'm surprised you can even write
Your lame attempts to bait me are very amusing by the way They don't and will not work but feel free to keep trying...ya never know right?

I made valid arguments, that contradicted your statements. I stated that I heard nothing in your submitted source that would suggest anything racist from Rush.

If a tree falls in the woods and you're not there to hear it, does it still make a noise ?

By me questioning the legitimacy of your sources, Im a troll?

Interesting point ! You've accused me of being a troll for the exact same thing
Foot in mouth syndrome strikes again

Especially when I have asked questions you have yet to identify.

I have.
I've posted audio evidence of rush making fun of how chinese people talk, how black people talk and he even insulated a parkinson's patient. I guess that makes him jesus?

If it were one single source or maybe even two sources, you may have a leg to stand on but I've posted information from a number of sources....one of which is rush limbaugh himself. You love rush limbaugh but refuse to believe what he says? How odd

Keep swinging, maybe you'll accidentally hit the ball

reply to post by OptimusSubprime


I think the Tea Party is racist, it is mostly white and they made me feel unwelcome. They think if an minority tries to join, they think they are trying to infiltrate the group to spy on them. I think the government has grown too big and it is taking out freedoms away. It seems whites get racist when there is a lot in a small area and do not welcome non-whites.