Scientists Making Drugs To 'Improve' Your Behavior

See people, this is the reason why I don't go see psychiatrist because they're drug trafficker for the pharmaceutical industry to get you hooked on medicine. Beware of doctors prescribing medicine.

A pill to enhance moral behaviour, a treatment for racist thoughts, a therapy to increase your empathy for people in other countries — these may sound like the stuff of science fiction but with medicine getting closer to altering our moral state, society should be preparing for the consequences, according to a book that reviews scientific developments in the field.

Drugs such as Prozac that alter a patient’s mental state already have an impact on moral behaviour, but scientists predict that future medical advances may allow much more sophisticated manipulations.

Drugs that affect our moral thinking and behaviour already exist, but we tend not to think of them in that way. [Prozac] lowers aggression and bitterness against environment and so could be said to make people more agreeable. Or Oxytocin, the so-called love hormone ... increases feelings of social bonding and empathy while reducing anxiety,” he said.

“Scientists will develop more of these drugs and create new ways of taking drugs we already know about. We can already, for example, take prescribed doses of Oxytocin as a nasal spray,” he said.

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You are conviently leaving out the many positive effects these drugs have had on people. Many patients have gone from living in complete misery to being a functioning individual because of drugs like Prozac. Just glance through some forums where people talk about life before and after they received the medication.

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Those post could be sponsored by the pharmaceutical industry. The point is medication could be used to control us from rebelling.

Sure they could, and the many people i've know that take them that have had positive results all work for drug companies secretly too.

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You can also add to that. One of the "MANY" side affects of "SSRl's" are suicidal feelings where none were present before starting the treatment. Peace starchild.

Originally posted by kro32
You are conviently leaving out the many positive effects these drugs have had on people. Many patients have gone from living in complete misery to being a functioning individual because of drugs like Prozac. Just glance through some forums where people talk about life before and after they received the medication.

You probably forgot about the negative affect of drugs driving people to suicide and violence, no thanks medicine.

Hi, I'm new to the site, but read this post with extreme interest & would be interested in your opinions.
I am currently off anti-depressants -for the last 15months (having been on them for 5 years prior) due to anxiety/panic attacks.A sole parent to three kids, we have all done it very hard, & my extreme anxieties towards my children & life in general has obviously excaberated this. I've tried various meds over the years but hated the side effects,until I was so bad I conceded & was on Zoloft.
They calmed the panic attack episodes, but I hated the way they took anything I liked about myself away too. (I am creative,interested,a bit of a perfectionist, enjoyed people etc) but the meds took this all away.
I no longer cared either way about anything.
After a very hard year (again!) I find myself considering daily whether to go back on just to cope with life which my mind finds overwhelming.
Today,being the worst in a long time, I found myself praying for help, & wishing there was a pill that could help me 'conform' to what society seems to dictate I should be ,as I find myself to be so socially unacceptable.
The pain & guilt this invokes in me, & ultimately my beautiful kids, is far more suffering than I feel I can endure.
As much as it would be 'selling out' ,I think I would seriously consider this pill.Sorry for the long post!

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There are many people l know that have had devastating results from taking these drugs. Mood swings, anger problems plus a plethora of other contraindications. lf you are lucky enough not to get any of the negative symptoms then you are "dumbed down". by highly addictive substances. Easy to control. lt seems that somewhere we crossed a line. doctors took the Hyppocratic Oath to do no harm. lt seems now lt is all about Big Pharma and how much money they can make and also the side affect of that is dumbing down the masses for the government. lt's so easy, first you vaccinate, whch causes the disease (ADHD ect.) then you medicate, as young and as early as possible with highly addictive "dumb down" drugs, make big bucks which in turn helps the government with their agenda. Peace starchild

TPTB should relax
Twist one up and self medicate naturally....

I had always yearned for the PERFECT flat top haicut. Decades passed but perfection eluded me. Then I started taking monoxidal and viagra. Now my hair stands straight up! Flat top perfection acheived! Now I look just like Gomer Pyle.

I would have to agree and disagree with this one. I was put on an antidepressant because my old doctor couldn't figure out what was wrong. She asked me if I thought I was depressed, I said no I don't think of suicide. She said let's do this and if it's not it. we'll keep trying. I had a horrible reaction, I just wanted to make people hurt, I was dangerous. I stopped taking them one and half months after starting them. I found out a couple months ago with my new doctor that basically putting someone like me on those is like giving Jeffery Daumer a new fleshy toy.

What I know now is due to prior damage my brain doesn't shut down, it's on overdrive 24/7 which lead to alot of health problems. I am on meds now that regulate my brain, it's now on and off when it needs to be. So I do see the benefits and the hazards of meds in the wrong hands. But it's also up to us to know what we put in our bodies

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l feel for you, l really do. Have you tried any alternative remedies. meditation is a great place to start. Life is so stressful at the moment for most people, lt would be good for you to have some "me" time. Sometimes we spend all of our time considering what others need, we tend to forget about ourselves. Do you have a Buddhist centre near you? Don't worry, you do not need to be a Buddhist and they will never try to convert you. Tell them you would like to learn to meditate, most centres have classes at resonable rates, lf your circumstances are such that you cannot aford it, they will guide you and tell you how to anyway. Try a course of Korean Ginseng 600mg (not siberian,) lt's really good for balancing your system. Also St. Johns wort. lt.s good for depression, you can get both from your health food shop. l do hope this can be of some help. l would definitely try this before going back on the meds. Peace and love starchild.

with all the fashionable new mental illnesses being invented on a daily basis, the government will start mandating people take medication for their "illnesses", and there is a not-too-distant future when this will turn what is left of human society into the final desired mass of robot-slaves to the global elite...

The thing is with mental health "pills" is that they are over prescribed, just like any other medicine on the market.
There are people taking pills who just need a good crying, or to let go of their bottled up emotions. "situational" depression if you may (after loosing a job, a break up, divorce). It's a natural thing for humans to grieve after losses.
Put then there are traumas that can affect a persons mental for the rest of their lives, and those people are ones who can benefit from such medicines... while being carefully monitored.

I was put on a relatively new SNRI "effexor" after getting into a bad car crash and lost my job. I was truly bent on leaving, because of chronic pain I am now enduring from said accident. Thanks to Effexor, I almost did leave. I got so high off this pill (which shows up as PCP in piss tests! WTF!?!) that I went to the harbor to drown myself. The only thing that stopped me was a police officer who watched me and confronted me. I was brought to the hospital where the staff was shocked that I was put on such a high dosage so quickly (187.5 mg over 3 weeks starting at 37.5 mg) It was the rapid increase that made me react in such a way.
Weening off was a bitch. I kept getting brain zaps every time I would try to focus. I felt like I had a bad ass cold too. The zaps lasted for 2 months.

After trying a few other "pills" I have yet to have found one that works best for me.
Chronic pain and depression run on the same neural pathways. In my case (chronic pain leading to depression).
I have found something that works very well, but it is not a pill. It's an illegal plant.... but it helps with the inflammation, mood, and overall pain tolerance. Most people will label me as a burnout or pothead, but I would rather eat and smoke a plant that I can grow myself than to pop pills that were made in a lab.

Sorry for the long post, just wanted to share my two cents.

Thank you all for your replies! It probably wasn't the most easy to understand post, as I was so upset today & emotions, thoughts were racing!
I can relate to 'finitydream', in regards to brain not shutting down-'being on overdrive'!! What meds worked for you?
Also,'Starchild',I have been reading a few books on Buddhism & would be interested to learn to meditate (shut my brain up!) I tried St John's years ago, but may give it another try,as I heard the one combined with passionflower is good.Thank you

Also, was curious to know if anyone has tried the 'Oxytocin' spray that OP mentioned & if any success was found with that. I've never heard of it & found a lot of info when googled. It sounds good but....
Sorry to OP too, as I realise I prob seem to advocate against the point you were trying to make. Its just that when you reach the point where you are thinking of 'checking out' you know you have to try & explore anything & everything.We owe it to our kids & ourselves.x

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Please, l know how hard it is for you. l could recommend buying one of several books to teach yourself how to meditate but when you are so low, having the time, let alone the mindset to teach yourself something new can be very daunting. Like l said before, find a Buddhist centre near you. They will help you. People from every walk of life and different religious belief systems are helped by just being shown how to meditate, l urge you to try it, not just for you , your whole family will benefit. Your son would more than likely benefit from a course in Tai Chi. or any of the Martial arts, the one thing they all have in common, is they train you to concentrate and focus. When you wake up tomorrow, say to yourself "This is the first day of the rest of my life and l refuse to become a victim of the Pharma Candyman" Take the bull by the horns and take your life back. You think you are weak, YOUR NOT. To have been trough what you have and brought up a family you are strong. lt's just sometimes we all need a hand to guide us when we stumble on lifes bumpy highway. Peace and love starchild.

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Don't feel bad or label yourself because you are self medicating. The reason the pharmaceutical companies will never allow it to be legalised is because they know it works. They would lose billions of dollars. You only have to look in the christian bible. Genesis 1-V29. God gave us all the things we need for free. lt's MAN that tells us different. Peace starchild.

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Hi Jewells I'm on a low dose of Celexa 40mg, I was suppose to take sleeping pills but I wont take those. I've known too many who have gotten hooked and automatically reach for them. Plus I'm happy with the results I have. I saw you wrote about conforming to society, sweetie you don't have to conform to anyone but yourself. I have three children as well, I know it can be ruff but one persons way or societies view isn't best for everyone. You need to do what's best for you and your children and from what I can see you are trying to find alternatives and help there's no shame or guilt about that. No ones perfect, but believe it'll get better. You can only go up from here I know it's hard to get quiet time for yourself but that's one thing that helps tremendously even if it's only 15 minutes a day. Everyone needs a little time to themselves.

Here's a link about Celexa : www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

I wish you the very best and if you ever need to talk I'm just a u2u away

Originally posted by kro32
You are conviently leaving out the many positive effects these drugs have had on people. Many patients have gone from living in complete misery to being a functioning individual because of drugs like Prozac. Just glance through some forums where people talk about life before and after they received the medication.

There are many people who do benefit from these drugs. There are far more that dont. And that is not even considering the NATURAL things that people can do to get the same positive affects.