Larry McDonald exposes the NWO on TV in 1983... dies couple months later!

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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by Skippy1138
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I guess maybe why he appeared so calm was because he believed what he was saying and was holding true to his convictions?
And I really don't think the other two guys were prepared beforehand for what he was going to start talking about...


That would be highly unusual. I have in the past been interviewed on both Radio and TV and the hosts tightly control the talking points. They tell you up front what they want to talk about and when you try to steer the conversation away from it they talk over you and kill your mike if necessary or cut to a commercial or another segment.

Watch the Network News Stations it happens all the time.

Event talk shows like the Tonight Show and Late Night are tightly cordinated and loosely scripted.

Plus Buchanon might be a conservative nut, be he's a well connected and informed conservative nut. He was a Nixon insider and his sister Bay who used to be a client of mine in the Travel Business for many years was a Regan insider as Secretary of the Treasury.

These are people who are well aware of the CFR Agenda and how the Corporate Shadow Government works in Washington DC.

It was elements within the Corporate Shadow Government that steered Bay's business to me.

Meanwhile what do you have in the other guest, a admitted CFR Member, all respectable in his suit, who knows who? Casey, "Oh I worked for the man, that's just nonsense" blah, blah, blah.

So you have two guys who are in fact very well aware of what McDonald is talking about, acting like wow this is all greek to me, sounds like a nutty conspiracy theory, and the guy who is laying it out, is as calm and collected as a clam shell.

Imagine it like this, you come home from a hard day at work and you find the dog run over in the driveway, your young teen age daugher making it with a biker sporting tatoos and leather, and your house on fire and you walk in the door and plop yourself down on your favorite chair, and your wife says how was your day honey.

Oh the usual, the house is on fire, I could really use a drink, when's supper going to be ready, by the way little Becky is making out with another Biker Dude in the driveway, oh and Spot got run over and is dead in the driveway, what's on TV.

This guy is in fact talking about the nation being systematically dismantled and our entire way of life in America and he doesn't even raise a pulse beat?

Trust me they rely on people assuming things, reaching quick and false assumptions, all the while planting those seeds, exposing you to the ideas, but in a way that it never seems like an urgent threat that you are actually going to feel some urgency to act on.




posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by coyotepoet
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One of the founding members[21][22][23] was Fred Koch,[24] founder of Koch Industries,

You mean the father of the Koch Bros who bought the Wisconsin Governor? Yup.


Give me a break! What a crock! Do you even have a clue how much money Koch brothers gave to Gov. Walker's campaign? They gave $43,000 to his campaign which was less than 0.5%. Yep that sure bought up Scott Walker, everyone knows a 0.5% share in something means you own it.


John Birch Society was the real deal and continues to be the real deal. I am a paying member of the Society and am proud to be one.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Originally posted by Skippy1138
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


I guess maybe why he appeared so calm was because he believed what he was saying and was holding true to his convictions?
And I really don't think the other two guys were prepared beforehand for what he was going to start talking about...


This guy is in fact talking about the nation being systematically dismantled and our entire way of life in America and he doesn't even raise a pulse beat?




I think you are right in that there are people who are disinfo agents like David Icke, maybe Svali - the illuminati informer.. who may be doing what they are doing to discredit the idea of conspiracy theories with outlandish stories. But I am wondering if in this McDaonald case he is simply trying NOT to sound like a nut. If he comes in as passionately as you think he should be, I think that could come off as a whacko. His very calm matter-of-fact approach I found very effective in getting his mesage across. He stuck to the facts without hyperbole. Maybe his calm demeanor was about the fact that he isn't entirely certain what their agenda is because we are all in the dark.

But then on the other hand look at this quote.. this is pretty blatant.. and I don't think it sounds like he wants us to lay down for it..

"[T]he drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government, combining super-capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control ... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."

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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by kro32
So NWO has around 30 years and their plan still hasn't reached completion yet? You getting the idea that maybe it doesn't exist?


Nope. In fact it looks clearly like they're in full swing. And they're focused on a purpose with a long-term goal, which leads me to suspect that there are Beings (Human or otherwise) who have some method of living a lot longer than the bulk of us (if ET Beings, it may just be their natural lifespan...). Otherwise, why bother to go to this effort?

But still, the evidence is all around that there IS a group manipulating other groups, which manipulate others... There are too many insane behaviors if one presumes no "insiders." With that presumption, however, behaviors make much more sense. (Like the vehemence against "Truthers," "Birthers," and all the others questioning the Disney Consumer Happy Happy world view.)



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by davidgrouchy
Here is a summary of someone who disagrees with modern industrial society and the direction it is going.


The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in "advanced" countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in "advanced" countries.


Perchance, does anyone here agree with these Ideas?

Extra credit to anyone
who knows who said this
without using a search engine.


I cannot give the name - but I know I have heard/read that before. Personally, I disagree fully. If money is removed, via the release of plenum energy extraction methods, Humans will have no impetus to work so counter to nature. Money - or rather, the LOVE OF money - creates some very evil behaviors.

I believe that if money is removed as a motivation Humans will strive to harmonize with nature.


One that totally buries the point that gun education is our problem. Even the army is having trouble finding people who know how to handle firearms safely without intensive training. If we want people with better gun control we should start educating them to handle riffles at an earlier age.


I'm all for gun education. I know how to shoot and the rudiments of care of a gun. I haven't had great experience, but I have had a bit. I think that very student would benefit with training. Say... About 10 years old.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by Skippy1138
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I don't get why if he was a "NWO stooge" he would be bashing the NWO? Just trying to to understand a little more what you're saying....


Reverse psychology? Conditioning? Preparing for acceptance?

There's a number of reasons he might be bringing this out. He might be the "stooge" who speaks the truth and can be pointed to with ridicule so as to both tell the truth and deny it at the same time...

My thoughts.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 08:31 AM
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Great find!
I remember when they shot down Mc Donald's plane and there was a great deal of disbelief of the official stories at the time. The news changed their story several times until I think, the "official version" was distributed to the media.
Tom Braden did work for the CIA with Bill Casey who, if you remember had a brain hemorrhage conveniently before he could testify during Iran Contra - the same hearings where Congressman Jack Brooks of Texas asks about Continuity of Government and is told by Chairman Daniel Inouhe that "we not touch on that subject at this time".
And this all happened within 2years of the attempted assassination of Reagan ( who vowed he would never have G .W. Bush as his running mate) by a Bush family friend.
Larry Mc Donald was sincere in his accusations and knew that the only way to deliver the message he had was to do it calmly without appearing emotional. The interview was brutal with Braden belittling Mc Donald the entire time.
I don't buy that Mc Donald was also a part of the same conspiracy at all. He was killed by the Russians who were and are a part of the same conspiracy of world socialism.
The proof of Mc Donalds accusations lies all around us.
Everything he said has been coming to pass.
I may be skeptical of many things but not everyone in Washington is a professional liar.
There was a time when honest men like Mc Donald had a chance to be elected.
Too bad that is no longer the case.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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this shows just how much the elite assholes think of us the host of the show is calling dude a liar and he keeps telling him where he can read the statements and he keeps saying he didn't say that how could u say that about him then the guy tells him once again well you can read it here

basicly he knows most people aren't gonna go look the # up for themselves they think were all so stupid and most of us are



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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Rense has a good list of the "still unexplained facts", including why Boris Yeltsin gave SK prime minister the black boxes in 1991 and upon investigation the data was made useless on purpose?
www.rense.com...



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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Sadly we will never really know who's side McDonald was really on, all we can do is speculate. However if I am correct in my own speculation regarding the man, it in no way detracts from the core issues here; the first the great find by the OP to bring us an authentic 25 year old piece of evidence showing that yes, people were talking about the New World Order that long ago and talking about things happening in the future that we can look back now as that some of that future is now the past and see that they were spot on.

Two that groups like the CFR and Trilatteral Commission really are not only real and working on these agendas for the future, but that people have long had concerns about them.

Where the New World Order and Corporate Shadow Government is concerned it gets hard to tell the players from the opponents, especially when you are looking at the inside the Beltway Crowd where ellements of the New World Order and Corporate Shadow Government in the form of lobbyists, attorneys and corrupted Government officials all hold court and touch just about everyone who is anyone involved in the Government process in an Executive, Legislative, Judicial and Department Head Way.

While a lot of Americans are still in denial or unsure or in debate on just how bad Government is corrupted, and if there is even a New World Order Agenda and Corporate Shadow Government operating behind the scenes, some of those doubtful and skeptical Americans even members right here on ATS, we really can see through this video in my humble opinion, that yes these things are happening, that yes these things are real, and while I think the most telling thing about McDonald was his lack of a strong cry to rise up against these things, we in my humble opinion should be rising up against these things with all the urgency and resolve we can muster.

McDonald didn't call for shutting down the CFR or Trilatteral Commission, having them investigated, dismantled out lawed etc, but I sure am!



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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Most remarkable about the vid i find his factual knowledge against his opponent.

His opponent was reading some (personal) attacks from a paper

But this guy had all the answers, even about organizations witch his opponent belonged to.

Brilliant TV, if they would still air talk-shows like this i would consider a TV again



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Give me a break! What a crock! Do you even have a clue how much money Koch brothers gave to Gov. Walker's campaign? They gave $43,000 to his campaign which was less than 0.5%. Yep that sure bought up Scott Walker, everyone knows a 0.5% share in something means you own it



Perhaps my wording was a little strong however:


According to Wisconsin campaign finance filings alone, Koch Industries PAC contributed $43,000 to Republican Scott Walker's governatorial campaign, second only to the $43,125 given by state housing and realtor groups. Moreover, Koch PAC helped Walker and other Republicans by contributing $1 million to the Republican Governors Association. RGA then spent $65,000 supporting Walker and $3.4 million on television attack ads and mailings against his opponent, Milwaukee Democrat Mayor Tom Barrett. It made the difference between victory and defeat, and let Walker advance anti-labor, pro-business legislation favoring Koch and other corporate predators, including a provision to let Walker use no-bid contacts to sell state assets. Among them - dozens of small power plants Koch may covet and be able to buy cheap.


www.indybay.org...

Here is a report on their holdings

www.americanprogressaction.org...

Further,


On April 7, the Center for Public Integrity's (CPI) John Farrell headlined, "Koch's web of influence," saying: "Koch spends tens of millions trying to shape federal policies that affect their global business empire," CPI explaining that its lobbying disclosure files and federal regulatory records show "a lobbying steamroller for the company's interests...." In recent years, its spending soared from $857,000 in 2004 to $20 million in 2008, then another $20.8 million through 2010 "to mold, gut or kill more than 100 prospective bills or regulations." CPI founder, Charles Lewis says: "The Kochs are on a whole different level. There's no one else who has spent this much money. The sheer dimension of it is what sets them apart. They have a pattern of lawbreaking, political manipulation, and obfuscation. I've been in Washington since Watergate, and I've never seen anything like it. They are the Standard Oil of our times."


They are just as much a part of the NWO as....Rockefeller's Standard Oil, which has more or less been put back together under BP
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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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One of the shortest yet more profound statements I have read on ATS in a long while. TY...



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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Originally posted by kro32
So NWO has around 30 years and their plan still hasn't reached completion yet? You getting the idea that maybe it doesn't exist?


By all accounts they've been waiting about 1,000 years to enact this plan, yes this plan is centuries in the making.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:56 AM
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28 yrs later and what he speaks of is now happening so the hit on his commercial jet was a false flag in order to silence him.

Great find, spread this.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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How would they have gone about, to get the airliner to stray off course and to get the soviets to shoot it down?

EDIT: Here is a theory on how it happened.

www.maebrussell.com...

Reads like a huge gambit though. Maybe they figured, if that does not work, there are still enough opportunities to poison him.
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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by Cassius666
How would they have gone about, to get the airliner to stray off course and to get the soviets to shoot it down?

EDIT: Here is a theory on how it happened.

www.maebrussell.com...

Reads like a huge gambit though. Maybe they figured, if that does not work, there are still enough opportunities to poison him.
edit on 25-4-2011 by Cassius666 because: (no reason given)


Make a call to the Kremlin and The Soviet Air Force to inform them of a "rouge" aircraft in their airspace and get them to shoot it down. Probally was attempted to develop a pre text for war with The USSR.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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General Patton was the cousin of the McDonalds. They both were killed in vehicle in accidents by Soviets.
Worthy of a thread all its own...



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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I found a blog with BOMBSHELL information:
behindthefed.blogspot.com...
He belongs to JBS in Az., can you contact him?



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Skippy1138
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I guess maybe why he appeared so calm was because he believed what he was saying and was holding true to his convictions?
And I really don't think the other two guys were prepared beforehand for what he was going to start talking about...


i agree with this. proto, i think you're just being really paranoid and overthinking the interview. don't try to spin it in such a meta way... watch it again, old dude on left was clearly upset the whole time and just shooting from the emotional hip, really poor questions, poor wording, or guilt of exposure, you could say. pat on the other hand seemed much more genuinely curious and naive about the situation given all of his responses, and mcdonald was so calm because yes, he was fully prepared to gut the NWO and old dude on tv, and answered everything perfectly rationally. why assassinate an NWO goon and shoot themselves in the foot at the same time to let all the researchers who smell the blood become curious. he would be alive today if he was on their side.





 
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