Larry McDonald exposes the NWO on TV in 1983... dies couple months later!

It begins at the 5 minute mark.




I really do not have much to add to this because it speaks for itself, he exposes the NWO conspiracy and collaborators during and before 1983. It is quite odd that he dies in an international incident over the Soviet Union only a few months later.

If anyone has more information regarding Larry McDonald please feel encouraged to post it here.

Could you post a link to the circumstances of this mans death please?
It's crazy that what this man speaks of is exactly how it is now. Reminds me of bill cooper.
You can see rage on the face of that cfr guy.

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en.wikipedia.org...

I encourage you to read the links there which elaborate more on the subject.

So NWO has around 30 years and their plan still hasn't reached completion yet? You getting the idea that maybe it doesn't exist?

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Seems more like such a plan would take a long time to implement and to soften its reception by the people, its chess not checkers.

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the whole idea of a NWO has been around alot longer tan 30 years

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Still listening to it, lots of good information in it. I can see how 9/11 bush terror rightwing presidency leading into an obama/socialism scare presidency could then lead to an even worst situation in 2012 elections with the next republican president.

Seems like a purposeful screwing up to make worst and worst choices seem more palatable.

I've never seen these videos, thanks. I'm still not one to believe in the whole NWO, but there are quite a bit of interesting mysteries within my research on this topic.

Here is a summary of someone who disagrees with modern industrial society and the direction it is going.

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in "advanced" countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in "advanced" countries.

Perchance, does anyone here agree with these Ideas?

Extra credit to anyone
who knows who said this
without using a search engine.





As to the topic at hand...

I look at Larry McDonald as an excellent dis-info agent for the Rockefeller Institute. The reason is because he said, when speaking about [color=gold]"when the P.T.A. comes out for Gun control" and [color=gold]"has nothing to do with education of our children." A brilliant piece of obfusication.

One that totally buries the point that gun education is our problem. Even the army is having trouble finding people who know how to handle firearms safely without intensive training. If we want people with better gun control we should start educating them to handle riffles at an earlier age.


David Grouchy

the colored quotes are taken from clip 2 in the opening post.

timestop 0:30 - 0:55

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Did you watch the videos? The answer to your question is stated by McDonald himself.He says the goal is " a gradual dissolving of society". They can't just come out and implement what they want all at once.People would never go for it in that fashion.They are using the "death by a thousand cuts" method. A little cut here, a little cut there.Each cut individually isn't fatal, and you may not even notice it........

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I check some YT videos on Documentaries investigating the accidental shoot-down of KLM 747 in August 1983.
The pilots made a blunder in setting the auto-pilot and the plane drifted into Russian airspace twice over Kamchatka. Similar spy planes were flying commericial-type airplanes routinely so the series of many factors lead to the mistake and the official report says so.
The wad no assassination evidence whatsoever. It was a cold war casualty, nothing more.

Originally posted by Skippy1138
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Did you watch the videos? The answer to your question is stated by McDonald himself.He says the goal is " a gradual dissolving of society". They can't just come out and implement what they want all at once.People would never go for it in that fashion.They are using the "death by a thousand cuts" method. A little cut here, a little cut there.Each cut individually isn't fatal, and you may not even notice it........

Yes but apparantly the NWO has existed since a banking system has. At least you could make the claim about the first people with real power like that that you could about these guys today. It's just as plausible if not more so 2000 years ago because the world was smaller and more easy to take over.

So after thousands of years they still haven't been able to implement their grand world domination plan yet?

Or is the NWO a new thing and if it is their plan doesn't seem to be going very well. You'd think that people who wield this much power wouldn't be having so many problems. Also if they have enough power to take over the world why would they need too? More power?

There are so many holes in this theory I can't believe anyone honestly pay's attention to it.

WOW The uni-bomber made that statement that's why the man was an insane genius even though i fully DO NOT condone his actions but other wise a good statement from a recluse

Later

Very interesting video and star and flag for the great find.

As someone around back then and investigating these associated conspiracies it wasn't exactly ground breaking at the time.

People had been concerned about the CFR since the sixties when a stinging expose book came out on it, and the Triladeral Commission was very much also viewed with great concern from the 70's onward.

It would be hard to argue against both of those organizations making great progress towards their agendas.

Some in conspiracy circles really did feel a 'compromise' was going on between the polar opposites of the Soviet Union and the United States where each was gradually being conditioned to emulate the other.

The Soviets ended up embracing captilism much like the Chinese have also, while we here in the United States have continued to grow more and more of a social welfare state and big government moving towards fascism/socialism.

So the interview is pretty solid when it comes to McDonald's assessments, I can't honestly say it was explosive enough to warrant the shoot down of the Korean Air Flight that went down with all passengers and crew under mysterious circumstances that still aren't clear to this day.

More troubling is I had a real hard time reading McDonald in the interview, he would have been a heck of a poker player as he presented his points so even keel and comfortably and with an air of authority it's hard to tell whether he was trying to warn and alarm people, or whether he was trying to teach and condition people for the inevitible.

For a democrat and all be it, Southern Democrats of the day where very conservative, he seemed to out conservative Pat Buchannon and gain his respect and a person would be very hard pressed to out conservative Pat Buchanon.

In the end I can't really tell whether McDonald was working for the New World Order by saying look these organizations are real, they exist, so does their agenda and they are making progress, sit up take note, times are changing, or against it, in we had all better get on this thing right now and pull out all the stops before it's too late.

I didn't feel his presentation had the kind of urgency or panic to it, that would have really soundly put him in the latter category.

Great interview, pretty accurate stuff he was talking about, but I really couldn't tell who's side the guy is on.

I am leaning towards New World Order stooge.

Reading through the book that he mentions Tragedy and hope.

The two parties should be almost identical so that the American
people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.

Later in same section

Either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it every four years by the other party which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.

But according to the last part the reasoning is this.

our ability to go back to the tradition of our Western society and to resume its development along its old patterns of Inclusive Diversity.

whole book here Tragedy and hope

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I don't get why if he was a "NWO stooge" he would be bashing the NWO? Just trying to to understand a little more what you're saying....

Originally posted by Skippy1138
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I don't get why if he was a "NWO stooge" he would be bashing the NWO? Just trying to to understand a little more what you're saying....

Because it's the easiest way to present something people don't want to hear or believe. What do we really have here? A guy warning of us of something the other people on the show won't even consider or begin to take seriously.

Yet here is the rub, if the other two people on the show don't even believe it, or take it seriously, and they represent the networks opinion, why would you even have a show about it?

Only if you wanted people to consider the possibility it is real.

Of course though you have to present it in a way that you are denouncing it, and that's what they are doing it all the way around, by either McDonald denouncing it, or Buchanon and the other guest dismissing it out of hand and denying it.

So why would you want people to consider the possibility is real?

Because people are going to be in opposition to it, so they have to be gradually exposed to it and made aware of it.

So let's look at this a bit more in this way, it would have been much easier for the average American to side with Buchanon and dismiss it out of hand 25 years ago when the interview aired.

Now fast foward 25 years and we can see that yes, we are a whole lot closer to these things coming to pass, and a lot fewer Americans would deny that it's happening.

Yet at the same time most of the Americans who have become aware of this grand conspiracy have to a large extent resigned themselves to the belief that it's inevitible that these people are too smart, to rich, to powerful, corrupted too many things already to ever roll it back and stop it.

In other words they are being gradually conditioned to accept it.

Accept it through a staged process where the vilian never comes out and says this is what I am going to do, try to stop me.

It's always the guy denouncing it, and the guy saying oh that's just crazy talk, all brought to you by a big corporate interest/media that is almost always as in this case part of the CFR therefor part of the conspiracy.

So ask yourself a simple question, why would a 'serious' tv show like Crossfire have on a guest that the other guests don't believe and think is crazy about a conspiracy that they and in essence the network say doesn't even exist?

It's not a comedy show or 'wierd news' show.

what it is, is TV Programming, program being the key word there.

The man is most likely programming people to begin accepting the New World Order, as part of the New World Order.

I could be wrong, but the way he presented it all was so calm, so without a pulse, so casual and matter of fact, that he did in some ways seem to be 'happily' presenting it as a fact.

That just simply makes me suspicious and well, that's my thinking and how I think.

i can tell you the mc donalds are from the donalds...the rest is forbidden

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Now fast foward 25 years and we can see that yes, we are a whole lot closer to these things coming to pass, and a lot fewer Americans would deny that it's happening. Yet at the same time most of the Americans who have become aware of this grand conspiracy have to a large extent resigned themselves to the belief that it's inevitible that these people are too smart, to rich, to powerful, corrupted too many things already to ever roll it back and stop it. In other words they are being gradually conditioned to accept it. Accept it through a staged process where the vilian never comes out and says this is what I am going to do, try to stop me. It's always the guy denouncing it, and the guy saying oh that's just crazy talk, all brought to you by a big corporate interest/media that is almost always as in this case part of the CFR therefor part of the conspiracy. So ask yourself a simple question, why would a 'serious' tv show like Crossfire have on a guest that the other guests don't believe and think is crazy about a conspiracy that they and in essence the network say doesn't even exist?

Yup. You just nailed it. Not to mention the fact that The John Birch Society was set up as false opposition. Then there's the fact that McDonalds are part of the bloodlines, just like his predecessor the Welch's (Laura Bush is a Welch, as is GE's Jack Welch.) Then there the fact that one of the original "Group of 12" of the John Birch and, according to JBS wiki entry:

One of the founding members[21][22][23] was Fred Koch,[24] founder of Koch Industries,

You mean the father of the Koch Bros who bought the Wisconsin Governor? Yup.

Like a lobster in a pot of cold water that gradually gets hotter. "Hmmm.."., thinks one lobster, "Does this water seem to be getting warmer to you?" "Maybe," says the other lobster, "But the water is comfortable right now. And besides, the metal walls that are keeping us in the water look like they would be too hard to climb. Let's just stay here where it's comfortable for right now."

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I guess maybe why he appeared so calm was because he believed what he was saying and was holding true to his convictions?
And I really don't think the other two guys were prepared beforehand for what he was going to start talking about...