Originally posted by Jonna
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Shall we condone that behavior for humans, as well.
What society condones and what humans actually do are two completely different things. Don't be deluded to think that what society gives its stamp of
aproval to has any bases in reality, truth or what is natural.
You needn't worry about my being deluded, Jonna. When your talking human behavior, you're speaking my language, especially social behavior.
Society, when it's hitting on all cylinders, does its best to reinforce certain pro-social behaviors and extinguish all anti-social behavior. What
made this nation strong was that it rewarded behavior that benefits its strength and punished those that do not. The tables have now turned and the
laws are used to protect the lawless, while the law-abiding are left to fend for themselves with police who are stretched too thinly and have been
almost neutered by the crushing weight of bureaucracy and continually diminished constitutional rights to self-protection.
Homosexuality is deleterious to society. It is one of the most ancient of taboos for the very reason that its effects have been repeated over and
over again until the prohibitions against this behavior have been codified by enduring societies.
It should go without saying that the full range of possible human behavior does not fall within the range of acceptable behavior for civilized
societies. The ancient Greeks believed that the quality of humanness was an acquired trait. To be fully human, one must first become civilized. In
more modern terms, we might say that to be homo sapiens sapiens is not a sufficient condition to be human. There must also be present the process of
Certainly, this view can be taken to the extreme and we should value the lives of even our most primitive brethren, but we can see that in order to
have an orderly, enduring society, we must reward and punish certain behaviors. It very well may be that males raping females is a very natural
behavior, but we might be hard pressed to find many women (or men, for that matter) who will allow that this behavior is acceptable.
Recently, there was a man discovered in the Caribbean who had been, from his youth, shut away in a chicken coop with the chickens. This individual
thinks that he is a chicken and his behavior is that of a chicken. This is not normal human behavior (defining normal as that which falls
statistically along a continuum that includes roughly 67% of the population), but it is entirely natural in so far as this individual has modeled the
only behavior available to him.
Not only is homosexuality not normal, it has been unacceptable to most civilized societies, and certainly those that have endured, throughout history.
Our progressive views will not change human nature. All the benefits of civilization that we all enjoy are founded in the family. Everything that
benefits the family benefits society. Homosexuality fails this test by definition.
[edit on 04/8/4 by GradyPhilpott]