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originally posted by: Riffrafter
a reply to: JadeStar
Hi Jade - not a direct reply to you but as I've been away for a bit, I thought I'd reply to a friendly and intelligent "face"....
On a separate but related note - why do you think that so many excellent institutions of higher learning are crawling with various "intelligence" agencies?
It's actually a very simple quid pro quo situation: - The institutions get a lot of cash and other "considerations". The agencies get access to a decent sized pool of unpolluted very sharp minds.
The value of a real mind is almost incalculable. It can neither be bought nor created. Yet.
The agencies have now and always will be, getting the better end of this deal.
Enjoy your day...
originally posted by: Pharyax
originally posted by: thePharaoh
messages??....so it begins...
Why do they ALWAYS have to add crappy music to all these types of videos.. If a UFO video has a spooky sound track, I stop it right away, and bin it. Sorry, no need for theatrics, when a UFO really being filmed, right?
This video draws out what could have been typed on video lasting 15 seconds. no need for nebulas, flashes, etc..
originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: JadeStar
I'm not naive but if you don't see the great amount of interest in astrobiology and the massive telescopes being built to detect life on other worlds you are incredibly misinformed. I've read the papers, proposals, even some project hardware which might be used to detect life on alien worlds. Can you honestly say the same?
No I can't. Papers and proposals mean jack****.
Most powerful institutions of the world...like political establishments and religious ones...DO NOT WANT YOU TO FIND IT....period. I don't doubt you or some scientist want to...but in the end...it's never your call. Even if you do find it...could you go before media and say it ? or would you need to go to your superiors...who would than decide what and if to disclose that info.
While you might not have nefarious agendas as a scientist...those who pay your salaries have them, and they are always bigger than you.
The world is an arena for power struggle. Discovery of exterestrial intelligence would be a paradigm shift...many of our most powerful institutions would not want that shift to happen. Status quo as long as possible. It's about keeping the control of the population, and ultimately...it's about money.
I'm sorry...but I think you're just not seeing the bigger picture here...
Let me ask you a question if I may...
Let's say that there really was an ET craft crash...somewhere in mainland USA...and your military recovered the craft and thus got hold of futuristic technology that's probably thousands of years more advanced than ours...you really feel they would share that with the world ? really ?
Why not than share all the Black Project stuff they do with the rest of the world ? Surely...it's all about progress..no ?
So its not always quid pro quo, it's sometime 'mutual self interest'.
A good current example of this is much of the work DARPA does with universities. A specific example is MOIRE technology for super massive foldable space telescopes. Astronomy would love a 16-20 meter telescope in space. It would allow us to directly image nearby exoplanets and detect life on any of them. Intelligence would also love this technology, not to point out, but to point down.