Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I am well aware of the fact that Hitler imprisoned both Jews and Communists. This is just classic Hegelian left vs right, only both Socialism and
Communism are factions of the Left, it's just that Socialism is a tad less violent. Fascism is a false right, in that Fascism is set up as the right
wing of the communism vs fascism fight. Communism, Socialism and fascism are all facets of the left, it's just that fascism is a tad to the right of
communism. That is all.
Facism and nazism are *national socialism*...in other words socialists with imperialistic goals. But one must remember england, france, spain,
portugal, belgium, netherlands ALL were imperialsts of their own and germany and italy were left out of colonies and markets. They lost WW1 and were
humiliated, then comes hitler with ambitions to set things straight for germany and mussolini to set things straight for italy. The only problem was
hitler opened up too many fronts and was a jew hater.
Socialism is very far from communism and I could NOT care less what fabian socialists want. I could also NOT care less about hegelian dialect. All I
know is that everything in the world is falling to "the elite" through treacherous and surreptitious means. I gave people PROOF that the american
government itself is PRIVATE and you can verify that at the delaware state registry of corporations. You can also verify fbi, cia, irs, FED, dea,
Under socialism and communism that would be an INSULT!!! People should not be treated as slaves!
Ok let's look at the definition of "incorporation"
v. in·cor·po·rat·ed, in·cor·po·rat·ing, in·cor·po·rates
1. To unite (one thing) with something else already in existence: incorporated the letter into her diary.
2. To admit as a member to a corporation or similar organization.
3. To cause to merge or combine together into a united whole.
4. To cause to form into a legal corporation: incorporate a business.
5. To give substance or material form to; embody.
6. Linguistics To cause (a word, for example) to undergo noun incorporation.
1. To become united or combined into an organized body.
2. To become or form a legal corporation: San Antonio incorporated as a city in 1837.
3. Linguistics To be formed by or allow formation by noun incorporation.
1. Combined into one united body; merged.
2. Formed into a legal corporation."
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by
Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
Noun 1. incorporation - consolidating two or more things; union in (or into) one body
consolidation, integration - the act of combining into an integral whole; "a consolidation of two corporations"; "after their consolidation the two
bills were passed unanimously"; "the defendants asked for a consolidation of the actions against them"
2. incorporation - learning (of values or attitudes etc.) that is incorporated within yourself
learning, acquisition - the cognitive process of acquiring skill or knowledge; "the child's acquisition of language"
introjection - (psychology) unconscious internalization of aspects of the world (especially aspects of persons) within the self in such a way that the
internalized representation takes over the psychological functions of the external objects
introjection - (psychoanalysis) the internalization of the parent figures and their values; leads to the formation of the superego
3. incorporation - including by incorporating
inclusion - the act of including
annexation, appropriation - incorporation by joining or uniting"
Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2008 Princeton University, Farlex Inc.
noun merger, federation, blend, integration, unifying, inclusion, fusion, absorption, assimilation, amalgamation, coalescence the incorporation of two
airlines into one
Collins Thesaurus of the English Language – Complete and Unabridged 2nd Edition. 2002 © HarperCollins Publishers 1995, 2002
Do you see the word "private" anywhere in those definitions? I didn't either.
As for Socialism and Communism being all that different from each other? I stated that Socialism is a bridge to Communism, and that the Communist
Party states it so. What part of that do you not get?
Socialism is not a free society! Remember: USSR stands for Union of Soviet Socialists Republic, the People’s Republic of China is a socialist
country, North Vietnam is communist, Cuba is communist. Socialism is defined as the bridge from democracy to communism.
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR, Russian: Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик,
tr. Soyuz Sovietskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik IPA: [sɐˈjus sɐˈvʲetskʲɪx sətsɨəlʲɪˈstʲitɕɪskʲɪx rʲɪsˈpublʲɪk] ( listen),
abbreviated СССР, SSSR), and commonly known as the Soviet Union (Russian: Советский Союз, tr. Sovietsky Soyuz) was a constitutionally
socialist state that existed in Eurasia between 1922 and 1991. A more informal name also used among its residents was the Union (Soyuz).The Soviet
Union had a single-party political system dominated by the Communist Party until 1990. Although the USSR was nominally a union of Soviet republics
(15 in all after 1956) with the capital in Moscow, it was actually a highly centralized state with a planned economy.
Comments on a Letter of V.M. Molotov Vijay Singh Readers of this journal are aware that Molotov had defended the views of Lenin in his
conversations with the Soviet poet Feliks Chuyev.1 In his letter to Kommunist given below Molotov defends the stand of Lenin that the dictatorship of
the proletariat must remain until such time as classes disappear. Lenin held that Soviet Russia had overthrown the landowners and capitalists in the
October revolution but it had yet to abolish the difference between the factory worker and the peasant. Until all had become workers the abolition of
classes could not take place under socialism. Socialism entailed the abolition of the commodity system: 'Socialism, as we know, means the abolition of
the commodity economy.'2 Lenin's positions were maintained and defended by the CPSU(b) after his death. At the 18th Congress of the party in 1939
Molotov argued that the Third Five-Year Plan had to be linked to the task of completing the creation of a classless socialist society and the gradual
transition to communism.3 Stalin defended Lenin's theses as well.
'Naturally, a classless society cannot come of its own accord, as it were. It has to be achieved and built by the efforts of all the working people,
by strengthening the organs of the dictatorship, by intensifying the class struggle, by abolishing classes, by eliminating the remnants of the
capitalist classes, and in battles with enemies, both internal and external.'9
The origins of the Communist movement can be found in the left wing of the Socialist Party and in the alternative political and industrial
movements that sometimes cooperated with and sometimes combated the Socialists. This radical spectrum of groups and individuals did not ultimately set
Communist policies, especially after the first turbulent years, but they did provide the first wave of American Communists. Their struggles and
disputes also underscore the complex native-born and immigrant roots of the new movement.Left disaffection with the SP had two large components. By
emphasizing an electoral politics, Socialists alienated members of the Industrial Workers of the World and many other militants who believed the road
to revolution lay through direct or “mass” action. The same critics generally upheld industrial unions as the primary means of organizing and
preparing the masses for revolutionary activity.
Here is a quote from the CPUSA page by Sam Webb, National Chair of CPUSA
In less than three hundred years the American people should be able to "increment" their way to socialism if they learn to behave properly. If
they are going to act obstreperously like the French and the Greeks; well, then it will take longer because the capitalists are not going to
appreciate any disruptions in the flow of profits.Seeing Barack Obama standing in front of the American flag sends shivers down my spine and makes
what little hair I have left on my head stand out... I just want to shout out: Yes we can! Sam Webb
Quote from the CPUSA webpage
A better and peaceful world is possible — a world where people come before profits. That’s socialism. That’s our vision. We are the
Communist Party USA.
3. The Socialist and Communist Stage of Social Development Marx and Engels discuss why capitalism leads to socialism and how socialism resolves
the contradictions of capitalism. They also distinguish between utopian and scientific socialism and discuss the distinction between the first
socialist transitional phase and the communist phase itself. Marx, Engels and Lenin discuss the "dictatorship of the proletariat" in the transitional
phase to communism proper. Lenin notes the universal and the particular in socialism in each country and he also discusses the relationship of radical
democratization to socialism. Lenin also discusses concessions by the new socialist state to domestic and foreign capitalists. In the final articles
before his death, his "last testament", Lenin discusses the importance of cooperatives. The Communist Manifesto. 1848, Marx & Engels (Excerpts) "The
theoretical conclusions of the Communists are in no way based on ideas or principles that have been invented, or discovered, by this or that would-be
If you still need further proof that Socialism is an incremental stage toward communism, let me know and I will find more for you.
And for the record, since you obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about, all workers are slaves of the State under Socialism and
Communism. Nazism is but a version of Socialism.
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