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The Absolute Truth About The Tea Party!

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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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doesn't matter what part of the world where anyone gets their beliefs from they have all ended up the same way.

dude i hate the federal reserve as much as anyone possibly can and guess what school of thought brought that monstrosity to frutition?

a democrat a socialist woodrow wilson.

ron paul has a lot of wholes in his thinking he is not considering the ramifications of what his ideology wants to accomplish when he has those answers then i might listen to him.




posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by cushycrux

Originally posted by 46ACE

Originally posted by cushycrux
To "libertytoall"

1. I got money
2. I got a bank
3. My money makes money
4. Makes more money
5. Even more
6. Even more and more
7. Until I have almost endless money

How can this work?











Why do even intelligent people don't see the obvious falsehood?! I mean it's so simple even a 5 year old would come to the logic, that this can't work. Mankind


And now tell me this is system has not to crash (in rage)...


edit on 24-4-2011 by cushycrux because: (no reason given)


How can this work? Because money is a tool like a swinging hammer it can move people to voluntarily showup at 0900 to their cubicle to enter in to what libs and socialists call "slavery".
Any force ( from the falling contractors framing hammer to the200 ton mechanical punch press to theconomic force of money) canbe used to create things,dowork; which creates wealth.


And from where does that money that didn't exist come from? Correct, it's stolen.


I swear I don't know what you keep talking about. I can't understand anything you type. Are you Canadian?


How was money stolen before the Fed existed? Before printing money existed? When every price was attached to a gold standard? I think you might be confused as to the history of banking in the USA.
edit on 24-4-2011 by libertytoall because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


doesn't matter what part of the world where anyone gets their beliefs from they have all ended up the same way.

dude i hate the federal reserve as much as anyone possibly can and guess what school of thought brought that monstrosity to frutition?

a democrat a socialist woodrow wilson.


That goes to prove the democrats and republicans are the same thing. They both serve private interests before serving the people.


ron paul has a lot of wholes in his thinking he is not considering the ramifications of what his ideology wants to accomplish when he has those answers then i might listen to him.


He is a wolf in sheeps clothing. AKA controlled opposition!



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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that proves the democrats and the republicans are the same how?

socialist idealism has created the fed,social security,welfare,medicare and medicaid and my favorite union welfare

all for the betterment of this society all the while destroying two social class just to enable the lower class,

flip side of the arguement is the so called corporate welfare which the left does in addition to those others.


one side is worse than the other but i make a point of contention.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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If anyone is having trouble finding it.

Odd views seems as though the director is new to conspiracies.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Well, if that's true, then you know you don't get to vote in Primaries as an independent, right?

Not in the state where I live. Undeclared voters can vote during the primaries.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


that proves the democrats and the republicans are the same how?

socialist idealism has created the fed,social security,welfare,medicare and medicaid and my favorite union welfare

all for the betterment of this society all the while destroying two social class just to enable the lower class,

flip side of the arguement is the so called corporate welfare which the left does in addition to those others.

one side is worse than the other but i make a point of contention.


First of all the only people calling the democrats socialists are the extreme right wingers. They have nothing to do with socialism. They are simply mild-to-moderate capitalists while the republicans are moderate-to-extreme capitalists.

Secondly social security, welfare, medicare and medicaid, unions ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to maintain some sort of balance and justice between "the elite" and the working class. Your saying government interferes with corporations and to some extent that is correct and again necessary. For example if there were no minimum wage laws everyone would be working for $1 a day and 70 work hours in poor-to-horrible working conditions. Just visit the new china and the new russia to get a taste for exploitation!

You want to stop the "welfare state" so that corporations can do absolutely anything they want, whenever they want. In other words MAKE THINGS INFINITELY WORSE than what they are now. People have been duped into believing "free market capitalism" is the best and freest system in the world. If that is the case then why do 2 people per family have to work 100+ hours to get the best car, best home, best&longest vacation, run up their credit cards and then default, allow banks to speculate investor funds away AND THEN ASK FOR THE TAXPAYERS TO PICK UP THE TAB, foreign wars for exploitation...........................................

Yes one party is better than the other but guess what, it is NOT the republicans! IT IS THE DEMOCRATS! You can use woodrow wilson to put all the blame on democrats but the democrats of the 1910s are not the democrats of 2010. Lots of things have changed while other things have remained the same.

Your playing a stupid game and confusing mild capitalism(with checks and balances) to socialism and communism. Your not fooling anyone except the ignorant and/or naive!!!!



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


that proves the democrats and the republicans are the same how?

socialist idealism has created the fed,social security,welfare,medicare and medicaid and my favorite union welfare

all for the betterment of this society all the while destroying two social class just to enable the lower class,

flip side of the arguement is the so called corporate welfare which the left does in addition to those others.


one side is worse than the other but i make a point of contention.



Or you could say there is no longer any Republican Party - just Democrat lite.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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First of all the only people calling the democrats socialists are the extreme right wingers. They have nothing to do with socialism. They are simply mild-to-moderate capitalists while the republicans are moderate-to-extreme capitalists.


Exactly. I laugh when people call US Democrats socialist, because in Europe most of their economic policy would be center-right at best.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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They are simply mild-to-moderate capitalists while the republicans are moderate-to-extreme capitalists.


yeah okayyyyyyyyyyy if you say so.


where do you think all that money comes from? my god man where?

that ideology destroys wealth and when you destroy that wealth those actions are what have made this country infinately worse.




Your playing a stupid game and confusing mild capitalism(with checks and balances) to socialism and communism. Your not fooling anyone except the ignorant and/or naive!!!!


im done because you incessantly keep on with the personal snipes.

its not worth my time or energy.

im out.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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I think the whole conversation is kinda silly. The Tea Party was NOT created by the Republican Party, however they do have some similar views. (Well at least to the STATED views of the Republican Party anyway... How much they actually want to see those views come to fruition is debatable.) That being said beings how the conversation has moved partially into Capitalism and the Free Market I thought I would ask a question of two.
1.) What Free Market? We certainly don't have one here in the U.S.
2.) Wheres can I find a Country that has a Free Market I might wanna move there I bet they become pretty successful.

In addition I am not real sure where the idea comes from that states that the Republicans are all for the Corporations and the Democrats are not... Has anyone ever been to Opensecrets.org? From what I can tell the are both bought and paid for. Heck in 2008 G.E. seemed to like Obama pretty well...www.opensecrets.org... and Goldman Sachs did as well... www.opensecrets.org... Now about those who dont pay taxers and get bailouts again??? I am confused. LOL



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


doesn't matter what part of the world where anyone gets their beliefs from they have all ended up the same way.

dude i hate the federal reserve as much as anyone possibly can and guess what school of thought brought that monstrosity to frutition?

a democrat a socialist woodrow wilson.


That goes to prove the democrats and republicans are the same thing. They both serve private interests before serving the people.


ron paul has a lot of wholes in his thinking he is not considering the ramifications of what his ideology wants to accomplish when he has those answers then i might listen to him.


He is a wolf in sheeps clothing. AKA controlled opposition!


They are not exactly the same. That is a kind of misunderstanding of the Hegelian Dialectic. This is why we keep hearing people on this forum all saying it doesn't matter if you are Republican or Democrat and don't talk partisan here because it doesn't serve the purpose of going around the dialectic and yadda yadda yadda. But here is the thing, Hegelian Dialectic takes two opposing ideas and the clash of the OPPOSITES creates CONFLICT. Antony Sutton says that this CONFLICT produces the SYNTHESIS which is neither Right nor Left. So yes, the Republican and Democrat platforms came from two opposing factions and the constant clash of these two forces and people hashing out the differences ad nauseum creates the conflict necessary to produce CHANGE. You know that little thing Obama said he was bringing. Well, you see, the Hegelians have been bringing change for a century now, since they brought Hegelian dialectic from Germany in the earlier part of the century.
Now observe, the communists began working on the Democrat Party to make it more closely resemble the Socialist Party. There are 70 members of Congress who are members of the DSA. These people have been moving in stealthily to undermine the underpinnings of our Republic. They use words like "Democracy", which sounds really nice but is commiespeak for lifting up the proletariat over the bourgeoisie, whom they hate with a vengeance. At this time, the Democrats stand for the welfare state, high taxes, income redistribution, the Nanny State, Universal healthcare(read Socialised medicine), Totalitarian control over every aspect of our lives(including things like smoking and how much fat we consume), pro everything UN, bureaucratic rules and regulations especially on business, race and class warfare by turning all minorities and women against the Republicans and also there is a focus on atheism and anti Christian hatred of all things religious.Democrats tell everyone that Republicans are meanies and cold hearted and care only about making money. They are usually anti-war now, or they say they are but yet tend to end up backing war in Congress anyway then blame it all on Reublicans as "warhawks". They have been at the helm for major wars though. WWI, WWII, Viet Nam. They blame Republicans for all the wars and recessions, yet they create unsustainable economic conditions through excessive spending and entitlement programs.
On the Republican side, Republicans used to stand for less government, less taxes, defense of the Republic, God as being the benevolent deity who watches over us and guides us and is welcomed in the form of prayer at meetings and chaplins on the warfront and the Ten Commandments in front of Courthouses. Republicans are for business and free enterprise, but the degenerated form is that war is used to prop up the economy and get defense contractors deals, Recently, Republicans have been as spendthrift as Democrats, and have until now been unwilling to really dig in and cut spending. Even now, they seem to have failed to make any real spending cuts which will turn things around and are dogged by Democrat demands for social programs. Republicans have focused the last decade on things like the Patriot Act, which actually was drafted during the Clinton era. This is what makes me think that this provision is a true artifact of the NWO devised of the synthesis between the two parties. Republicans seem to no longer embrace true conservative values.
Repubs and Demos both cave to lobbyists of all kinds. the so called NEOCONS(which translated means newly conservative or partially conservative) came over from the Left. This term was actually coined by a Socialist to denote those who had vacated their leftist agenda. So these NEOCONS have brought some of their ideology into the Republican camp. I believe that this has been deliberate as a way to spread Socialist ideals into the Republican camp, thereby fulfilling the communist dictate of taking over both of the major political parties in the US.
To be sure, there have been many good souls who care about the environment. They often fall into the Democrat or liberal camp but Socialist organizations have taken root through Greenpeace and Earth First and so on to ruin whatever real concern for the environment may have existed, and turned it all into a horrific agenda which manifests through the UN as Agenda 21. This is really the Top Down manifestation of Socialism/Communism taking root through NGOS and local communities as a kind of stealth activity. It is World Totalitarianism cloaked as "sustainable" concern for the environment.
The Shadow govt now rules govt and this is why it appears as if both parties are really one and the same, because the Shadow Party is the true synthesis of the two opposing parties. The Democrats have also supported Unions, which have had their positive effects on maintaining balance between the proletariat and the owners of business( read between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie classes) but are being used to sack the public treasury now. We see a President for the first time openly supporting the Mafioso type activities of Unions, and a Union leader who openly supports the Intl Socialist movement.
Because the Socialists use corporations to prop up what would otherwise not work anywhere in the world because they need the Capitalist money to support them, they appear to be more pro business than they are. They in fact hate all corporations and all Capitalism no matter what. On the Capitalist side, we have a blatant disregard for people as individuals as we are absorbed more and more into the corporate culture.
Both Republicans and Democrats refused to take real responsibility for the debt they have saddles US taxpayers with, as they still get a handout from the public treasury no matter what they do to the rest of us.
It really is time to stop this madness.
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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by Punisher75

2.) Wheres can I find a Country that has a Free Market I might wanna move there I bet they become pretty successful.


Try somalia. Its as "free" as it gets there....but don't forget your ak-47 and lots and lots of ammo



Now about those who dont pay taxers and get bailouts again??? I am confused. LOL


Ok LOL...try the financial institutions LOL...that rob people blind LOL and then ask for bailouts...LOL

Do I make sense LOL?



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by Punisher75
I think the whole conversation is kinda silly. The Tea Party was NOT created by the Republican Party, however they do have some similar views. (Well at least to the STATED views of the Republican Party anyway... How much they actually want to see those views come to fruition is debatable.) That being said beings how the conversation has moved partially into Capitalism and the Free Market I thought I would ask a question of two.
1.) What Free Market? We certainly don't have one here in the U.S.
2.) Wheres can I find a Country that has a Free Market I might wanna move there I bet they become pretty successful.

In addition I am not real sure where the idea comes from that states that the Republicans are all for the Corporations and the Democrats are not... Has anyone ever been to Opensecrets.org? From what I can tell the are both bought and paid for. Heck in 2008 G.E. seemed to like Obama pretty well...www.opensecrets.org... and Goldman Sachs did as well... www.opensecrets.org... Now about those who dont pay taxers and get bailouts again??? I am confused. LOL


It is because the Republican Party still retains many of the conservative values it had before it was degraded by the Shadow Party. These are the values espoused by our Founding Fathers. That is the core of the Tea Party.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Try Somalia. Its as "free" as it gets there....but don't forget your ak-47 and lots and lots of ammo



Well according to Wikipedia they are doing better financially than before. That being said I don't know that its such a fantastic idea to discuss their economy's growth with the civil unrest that grows hand in hand with the current lack of any representative government all with the same breath.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07


Ok LOL...try the financial institutions LOL...that rob people blind LOL and then ask for bailouts...LOL

Do I make sense LOL?


You will get no argument from me at all on this point.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by Punisher75

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Try Somalia. Its as "free" as it gets there....but don't forget your ak-47 and lots and lots of ammo



Well according to Wikipedia they are doing better financially than before. That being said I don't know that its such a fantastic idea to discuss their economy's growth with the civil unrest that grows hand in hand with the current lack of any representative government all with the same breath.


Free market capitalism and anarchy go hand in hand. No government, no laws-except for "natural laws" which are mainted by the gun. Who needs government when we can have tribal warfare...right?



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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My personal opinion on what we in the U.S. should do for the Union is pretty simple actually.
1.) Do away with the Federal Reserve.
2.) Leave the U.N.
3.) Do away with the Federal Income Tax. (Beings how every single penny of it goes to pay on our "debt" to the private Federal Reserve.
4.) Do away with Federal Entitlement Programs. (Let the State take care of if that's what the state wants to do.)
5.) When the Constitution says we have a right to do something... well recognize that means we have the right to do something.

All and all pretty simple.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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From Wikipedia.
A free market is a market in which there is no economic intervention and regulation by the state, except to enforce taxes, private contracts, and the ownership of property. It is the opposite of a controlled market, in which the state directly regulates how goods, services and labor may be used, priced, or distributed, rather than relying on the mechanism of supply and demand.

Not seeing where rule of the Gun has anything to do with taxes here... Needless to say I bet we wont agree on this one what do you bet? LOL



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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Any person of color that is not white and that is actively involved in the Tea Party must be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.



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