The Absolute Truth About The Tea Party!

This thread is the biggest pile of crap I've ever read. Can't you people honestly see through all the BS?? This is nothing more then a smear campaign which turned out to be not very damaging at all. The video talks about things like the Koch brothers donating to republican causes as if that's such a bad thing.. I guess if you're wealthy enough your suppose to shut up and never vote or have a political opinion? The rest of the videos don't even show ONE instance of racism OR a conspiracy to subvert the US government. In fact when I found out the Koch brothers father was a member of the John Birch society I almost fell in love with them right there, because they follow solid COMPASSIONATE ideals.. Unlike Obama, Soros, or any of the left big wigs. They are all about personal ego and power.. In fact most of the financial tsunami's and political unrest are caused by LIBERAL supporters and Reagan Democrats like Bush and like Soros. Soros gave over 100 million to moveon.org which is one of the most brainwashing materials of political dribble that supports the left. How is this different?

Anyway just wanted to say I see through your BS and I raise your ignorance with education..

reply to post by OverMan


Are you serious? Really?
Anti Tea Party Crap? 9/11?

reply to post by cushycrux


get many posts by saying so very little?

Are you trying to defend the left right paradigm?

Yes, right after 9/11 there were many idiotic 9/11 truther sites and videos that were of no use.
The rich support both sides as both sides are simply two arms of the same beast so if you want to down the rich for being what? In league with other rich people? I mean, the same applies to the left, but of course.

Originally posted by OverMan
reply to post by cushycrux

 

get many posts by saying so very little?

Are you trying to defend the left right paradigm?

Yes, right after 9/11 there were many idiotic 9/11 truther sites and videos that were of no use.
The rich support both sides as both sides are simply two arms of the same beast so if you want to down the rich for being what? In league with other rich people? I mean, the same applies to the left, but of course.

I just write very less because I can't follow you, sorry. 9/11 and the current Palin/Corporate Tea Party has absolute nothing to do together.

I am left (no party), because I think to share is right in gods eyes. No, i would go further and say we must give more that we take to heal this world. Capitalism is not the solution, because it doesn't work, it never did, but people believed in it. The complete collapse of this goo has to come. The architects of this so called democratic system knew it all the time, but they get rich from this fake and so they let it run. People are talking about NWO, while they are a part of it and defend it every #ing second in their lives. Endless growth? Consume # and work until I die? Never.

Since my complete incompatible World view with the most assimilated people, I just read what you write and with the knowing you can't understand me, I can't understand you. But what you are doing will not end in peace and brotherhood - it will end in blind hate, war and violence.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by meeneecat

 

*yawn*
Yet ANOTHER person telling me what I am and who pays me.

Do you folks get off on being wrong? Because it happens quite a lot.

*Yawn*
Yet another person who when confronted with FACTS that differ from the party line he has been fed, decides they are not worth looking at or examining and so issues the obligatory ad hominem attack instead: in this case that I "get off" on being "wrong" (as if facts can even be "wrong")

How much did the Koch brothers's organizations Freedom Works and AFP give to the Tea Party? Huh Beezer? Care to address the actual statements and EVIDENCE provided in my post, instead of just attacking it? I guess Ron Paul also "gets off" on being "wrong"?

Originally posted by cushycrux
I am left (no party), because I think to share is right in gods eyes. No, i would go further and say we must give more that we take to heal this world. Capitalism is not the solution, because it doesn't work, it never did, but people believed in it. The complete collapse of this goo has to come. The architects of this so called democratic system knew it all the time, but they get rich from this fake and so they let it run.

My god would you PLEASE stop your ignorance. For over 200 years Capitalism was the most successful over anything else you can come up with. Capitalism is NOT WHAT FAILED. What failed us was the Federal Reserve and credit. Up until 1937 America was the most progressing nation on the face of the earth in the shortest perdiod of time. That is owed to CAPITALISM. In fact NOTHING ELSE has EVER COME CLOSE to it's progress. When the Federal Reserve was created and fiat money was being used over a gold standard, we began to see inflation and loss of production. It was DEMOCRATS, BIG GOVERNMENT, and BIG SOCIAL SPENDING that lead to the collapse of Capitalism. You should really get your facts straight. It's ideologies like you hold that lead to our countries collapse, not capitalism. Sorry bud, you should learn real history.

Originally posted by meeneecat

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by meeneecat

 

*yawn*
Yet ANOTHER person telling me what I am and who pays me.

Do you folks get off on being wrong? Because it happens quite a lot.

*Yawn*
Yet another person who when confronted with FACTS that differ from the party line he has been fed, decides they are not worth looking at or examining and so issues the obligatory ad hominem attack instead: in this case that I "get off" on being "wrong" (as if facts can even be "wrong")

How much did the Koch brothers's organizations Freedom Works and AFP give to the Tea Party? Huh Beezer? Care to address the actual statements and EVIDENCE provided in my post, instead of just attacking it? I guess Ron Paul also "gets off" on being "wrong"?

*sob*
You're right. The Koch Bros. paid for it all. The Tea Party, my gun, the box of paper clips. You win. Please post some more annoying sources.
Then go away. You still don't get it, do you, skippy. No-one pays me anything. No-one tells me what to think or gives me talking points.
It's called independence.
It might be scary at first but once you try it, you might like it.

reply to post by libertytoall


Please let me know where wikipedia (common reference nothing more nothing less) gets mr welch wrong...

1: Welch was a fundamentalist Baptist and, by his own admission, was "insufferable" in his attempts to convert his fellow students.

2: Welch attended the United States Naval Academy and Harvard Law School but dropped out of both institutions before graduating. He would later assert this was because of his opposition to the political leanings of the instructors.

So, he couldnt stand his teachers "leanings" yet was "insufferable" in his own in the same position.
I think we call this HYPOCRITICAL?

As far as I am concerned, this is all I need to know to dislike this person yet let us move on.

""In his own words, the American people consisted of four groups:"Communists, communist dupes or sympathizers, the uninformed who have yet to be awakened to the communist danger, and the ignorant.""

Ah we have ourselves a CAPITOLIST plain and simple.
Anyone for a witch hunt?

Some of us have went over this with a fine tooth comb but let me break it down for YOU pilgrim.

Mankind is ALL THE THINGS that you have little nifty labels to describe and sorry yet all you are doing is trying to DIEFY your chosen system and DEMONIZE any other modes/methods to this madness we call living.

When gasoline is $20 a gallon all you will hear from these FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS will be cries of how much Exxon Mobil and BP made last year. You will hear cries to NATIONALIZE oil and energy. You will not hear the cries of CAPITOLISTS as their dividends will be kicking and their OIL & ENERGY stocks a splitting!

Yeah...

We are all communists, capitolists, conservatives, progressives, liberals and all the rest, in some way.

You Divider. You markers of spaces. You Labeller. You wearer of many faces.

Moving on.

"In the 1960s, Welch began to believe that even the Communists were not the top level of his perceived conspiracy and began saying that Communism was just a front for a Master Conspiracy, which had roots in the Illuminati; the essay "The Truth in Time" is an example[1]. He referred to the Conspirators as "The Insiders," seeing them mainly in internationalist financial and business families such as the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, and organizations such as the Bilderbergers, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission. He did avoid the Antisemitism, anti-Freemasonry, and anti-Catholicism of other Conspiracy theorists, saying that such prejudices would "neutralize" anti-Communist, anti-Conspiracy efforts. According to one source, Welch converted to Catholicism in the months before his death.[2] As a result of his consiracy theories, the John Birch Society became synonymous with right-wing extremism, earning satirical blasts from critics ranging from the cartoonist Walt Kelly to the musicians Bob Dylan and Dizzy Gillespie.[3]"

"eyes waking up, just to fall asleep, love is like suicide" Soundgarden

So, after all that whining and crying he did not admit he was wrong just that he wasnt seeing the full picture (same thing in my opinion) yet I have learned that it is not what THEY SAY yet more what THEY ARE NOT SAYING so see if you can follow me here please:

1: He did avoid the Antisemitism

2: anti-Freemasonry

3: and anti-Catholicism

Have you ever, EVER, seen anyone else on here deduce what is probably closest to the TRUTH then yer going to get in such a fashion?

I rest my Motha FN case!

Originally posted by cushycrux

Originally posted by OverMan
reply to post by cushycrux

 

get many posts by saying so very little?

Are you trying to defend the left right paradigm?

Yes, right after 9/11 there were many idiotic 9/11 truther sites and videos that were of no use.
The rich support both sides as both sides are simply two arms of the same beast so if you want to down the rich for being what? In league with other rich people? I mean, the same applies to the left, but of course.

I just write very less because I can't follow you, sorry. 9/11 and the current Palin/Corporate Tea Party has absolute nothing to do together.

I am left (no party), because I think to share is right in gods eyes. No, i would go further and say we must give more that we take to heal this world. Capitalism is not the solution, because it doesn't work, it never did, but people believed in it. The complete collapse of this goo has to come. The architects of this so called democratic system knew it all the time, but they get rich from this fake and so they let it run. People are talking about NWO, while they are a part of it and defend it every #ing second in their lives. Endless growth? Consume # and work until I die? Never.

Since my complete incompatible World view with the most assimilated people, I just read what you write and with the knowing you can't understand me, I can't understand you. But what you are doing will not end in peace and brotherhood - it will end in blind hate, war and violence.

This is your FEAR is all it is.
There is no ONE WAY!

I am not talking to a person most of the time but to a FEAR.

All I see is blind hate, war and violence and here you are telling me that what I am "suggesting" or whatever will only lead to more suffering.... why the worry then?

I understand you perfectly well.

Much of what you are saying is preaching to the choir.....

This is not a good expose of the TEA PARTY is all I am saying and when I say it you then treat me like your damned enemy and THAT MY DEAR WATSON is how I know you are bent and twisted

Yes! 9/11 debunker videos were as NEGATIVE to the 9/11 truth movement as CRAPPY ANTI TEA PARTY VIDEOS are to any ANTI TEA PARTY MOVEMENT..... TA freakin DA how hard was that?

Oh, it shouldnt have been very hard now should it so SOMEONE is being difficult.

Originally posted by OverMan
Please let me know where wikipedia (common reference nothing more nothing less) gets mr welch wrong...

1: Welch was a fundamentalist Baptist and, by his own admission, was "insufferable" in his attempts to convert his fellow students.

2: Welch attended the United States Naval Academy and Harvard Law School but dropped out of both institutions before graduating. He would later assert this was because of his opposition to the political leanings of the instructors.

So, he couldnt stand his teachers "leanings" yet was "insufferable" in his own in the same position.
I think we call this HYPOCRITICAL?

As far as I am concerned, this is all I need to know to dislike this person yet let us move on.

I don't think it's hypocritical at all.. If you were awakened to the fact "the elite" make up more then 90% of University educational structures and perpetuate this brainwashing ideals of liberal democrats, you would have a better idea where he was coming from. But since you are one of those brainwashed liberals I can't blame you for being ignorant.

""In his own words, the American people consisted of four groups:"Communists, communist dupes or sympathizers, the uninformed who have yet to be awakened to the communist danger, and the ignorant.""

You are a mix of ignorant and communist from my personal perspective. You don't understand but you blindly support socialism.

"In the 1960s, Welch began to believe that even the Communists were not the top level of his perceived conspiracy and began saying that Communism was just a front for a Master Conspiracy, which had roots in the Illuminati; the essay "The Truth in Time" is an example[1]. He referred to the Conspirators as "The Insiders," seeing them mainly in internationalist financial and business families such as the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, and organizations such as the Bilderbergers, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission. He did avoid the Antisemitism, anti-Freemasonry, and anti-Catholicism of other Conspiracy theorists, saying that such prejudices would "neutralize" anti-Communist, anti-Conspiracy efforts. According to one source, Welch converted to Catholicism in the months before his death.[2] As a result of his consiracy theories, the John Birch Society became synonymous with right-wing extremism, earning satirical blasts from critics ranging from the cartoonist Walt Kelly to the musicians Bob Dylan and Dizzy Gillespie.[3]"

So by you pointing this out are you suggesting there is not a mass global conspiracy to take over the world? I don't think he sounds crazy at all..

"eyes waking up, just to fall asleep, love is like suicide" Soundgarden

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Is that a description of a liberal progressive?

reply to post by libertytoall


Sorry but that is disinfo at best.

Way before we had THE FED we had central banks, had went bankrupt on several occassions and basically had a rough time of it EVEN THOUGH we were stealing land, living off of endless growth/expansion, monopoly, price fixing, corporate welfare and all manner of otherwise UNCAPITOLISTIC policies.

Need quotes? Need links?
I dont mind working for my conversions yet it does get old and tiring.
I promise you are outgunned yet pull that pistol if you must... pilgrim

Originally posted by beezzer
You're right. The Koch Bros. paid for it all. The Tea Party, my gun, the box of paper clips. You win. Please post some more annoying sources.
Then go away.

Beezer, now you're just blatantly misrepresenting what I said. So dishonest of you...because I never said any of those things.

...and do you always tell all those "pesky facts" to "go away"...or do you only pay attention to the ones you like and agree with.

How about instead of trying to ignore the evidence and telling it to "go away", we take a look at it and have a mature conversation about it. Think you are capable of that?

Also, can I take the fact that you are ignoring the corporate donations to the Tea Party, that corporate donations are unimportant in politics, at least in your opinion?

To "libertytoall"

1. I got money
2. I got a bank
3. My money makes money
4. Makes more money
5. Even more
6. Even more and more
7. Until I have almost endless money

How can this work?

Why do even intelligent people don't see the obvious falsehood?! I mean it's so simple even a 5 year old would come to the logic, that this can't work. Mankind

And now tell me this is system has not to crash (in rage)...

Originally posted by meeneecat

Originally posted by beezzer
You're right. The Koch Bros. paid for it all. The Tea Party, my gun, the box of paper clips. You win. Please post some more annoying sources.
Then go away.

Beezer, now you're just blatantly misrepresenting what I said. So dishonest of you...because I never said any of those things.

...and do you always tell all those "pesky facts" to "go away"...or do you only pay attention to the ones you like and agree with.

How about instead of trying to ignore the evidence and telling it to "go away", we take a look at it and have a mature conversation about it. Think you are capable of that?

Also, can I take the fact that you are ignoring the corporate donations to the Tea Party, that corporate donations are unimportant in politics, at least in your opinion?

edit on 24-4-2011 by meeneecat because: (no reason given)

Yor "facts" don't fit the narritive.
Your "facts" have absolutely nothing to do with what I believe.

You are too damned busy trying to define the Tea Party within your own narrow confines, along with many here. It is a failure no matter how you cut it. We have the left, the White House, the media, you, all telling us what we are and who we are. And it is failing. Go ahead, post more interesting nuggets of how evil corporations paid for something. Go ahead and post how the Tea Party is just a shill organization for the GOP.

You might get the odd person fooled, but the rest of us who actually believe in doing something positive will look at you and the rest with something akin to sadness and pity for the shills you are for the media and the rest.

I just want to know when people thoughts things were so good?

Life has always been a struggle - as it should be.


I really can't understand those who say everything should be shared - that big government should take care of everyone.

Class collaboration is a principle of social organization based upon the belief that the division of society into a hierarchy of social classes is a positive and essential aspect of civilization.

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Tea party
Absolutely facist, absolutelly totalitarian

Absolutely not for the good of 99.9999% of the people

Originally posted by libertytoall

Originally posted by OverMan
Please let me know where wikipedia (common reference nothing more nothing less) gets mr welch wrong...

1: Welch was a fundamentalist Baptist and, by his own admission, was "insufferable" in his attempts to convert his fellow students.

2: Welch attended the United States Naval Academy and Harvard Law School but dropped out of both institutions before graduating. He would later assert this was because of his opposition to the political leanings of the instructors.

So, he couldnt stand his teachers "leanings" yet was "insufferable" in his own in the same position.
I think we call this HYPOCRITICAL?

As far as I am concerned, this is all I need to know to dislike this person yet let us move on.

I don't think it's hypocritical at all.. If you were awakened to the fact "the elite" make up more then 90% of University educational structures and perpetuate this brainwashing ideals of liberal democrats, you would have a better idea where he was coming from. But since you are one of those brainwashed liberals I can't blame you for being ignorant.

""In his own words, the American people consisted of four groups:"Communists, communist dupes or sympathizers, the uninformed who have yet to be awakened to the communist danger, and the ignorant.""

You are a mix of ignorant and communist from my personal perspective. You don't understand but you blindly support socialism.

"In the 1960s, Welch began to believe that even the Communists were not the top level of his perceived conspiracy and began saying that Communism was just a front for a Master Conspiracy, which had roots in the Illuminati; the essay "The Truth in Time" is an example[1]. He referred to the Conspirators as "The Insiders," seeing them mainly in internationalist financial and business families such as the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, and organizations such as the Bilderbergers, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission. He did avoid the Antisemitism, anti-Freemasonry, and anti-Catholicism of other Conspiracy theorists, saying that such prejudices would "neutralize" anti-Communist, anti-Conspiracy efforts. According to one source, Welch converted to Catholicism in the months before his death.[2] As a result of his consiracy theories, the John Birch Society became synonymous with right-wing extremism, earning satirical blasts from critics ranging from the cartoonist Walt Kelly to the musicians Bob Dylan and Dizzy Gillespie.[3]"

So by you pointing this out are you suggesting there is not a mass global conspiracy to take over the world? I don't think he sounds crazy at all..

"eyes waking up, just to fall asleep, love is like suicide" Soundgarden

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Is that a description of a liberal progressive?

edit on 24-4-2011 by libertytoall because: (no reason given)

edit on 24-4-2011 by libertytoall because: (no reason given)

1: I have Ignored NOTHING.
2: You ignored the fact that he PUSHED RELIGION down his students throats yet couldnt stand it when his professors were pushing their political views on him WHICH IS EXACTLY how I was showing him as a Hypocrit as there is little difference between politics and religion and/or the act of pushing one or the other down anyones throats..... now go miss the point completely somewheres else maybe.....

3: I am not a liberal nor a democrat, you can shove your labels up your ....

4: you are not saying much but you do like to refer to me with derogatory labels.

5: the song lyrics were in reference to this "As a result of his consiracy theories, the John Birch Society became synonymous with right-wing extremism, earning satirical blasts from critics ranging from the cartoonist Walt Kelly to the musicians Bob Dylan and Dizzy Gillespie.[3]"

and the fact that Mr. Welch thought he was right, recanted, reexamined his position, even after all the rhetoric and then proceeded on again , just like before, acting like he had it all figured out yet while also withholding and/or giving any credence to the following:

Antisemitism, anti-Freemasonry, and anti-Catholicism

Really?
You must not know much about the above subjects to be unable to understand why he avoided them....

This is evident.
This is a TELL.

It is more of what they are not saying, then what they are saying, children...

You, much like your left wing counter part are completely outmanned here and I require no assistance from anyone.

Sure there is a mass conspiracy yet it involvs the Vatican, the Masons and the Zionists and anyone who says otherwise is either un educated and/or part of it!

Bam Pow Bang!
Next!

Originally posted by OverMan
reply to post by libertytoall

 

Sorry but that is disinfo at best.

Way before we had THE FED we had central banks, had went bankrupt on several occassions and basically had a rough time of it EVEN THOUGH we were stealing land, living off of endless growth/expansion, monopoly, price fixing, corporate welfare and all manner of otherwise UNCAPITOLISTIC policies.

Need quotes? Need links?
I dont mind working for my conversions yet it does get old and tiring.
I promise you are outgunned yet pull that pistol if you must... pilgrim

Bring it on partner because I happen to know my history VERY well.

DEMOCRATS PLEASE GET IT IN YOUR VOCABULARY.. STOP SPENDING!

You can thank Reagan democrats and Liberals for the affirmative action housing act of credit. Obamacare will eventually result in the same tanking of our economy. Keep it up though, you're a wonderful patriot..



SMALLER GOVERNMENT, SMALLER GOVERNMENT, SMALLER GOVERNMENT!!!
and please stop the spending without cutting..

Originally posted by MidnightTide
I just want to know when people thoughts things were so good?

Life has always been a struggle - as it should be.


I really can't understand those who say everything should be shared - that big government should take care of everyone.

Isn't it more blessed to give than receive?

OP is schilling for someone here. . .

I mean really, Jenine Garafallo? All cradibility goes out the window when you put a jewish person that hates goyim and other whites and espouses this libtard progressive bs.

10 thumbs way down.