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The Absolute Truth About The Tea Party!

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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 02:53 AM
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How many teabaggers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

I cant find any tea baggers at my local watering hole and pick a fight with yet these stooges seem to show up at these unofficial klan events? Who are these people and where do they come from?

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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by User8911
Maybe it's just me...but are like stupid greedy blind and un-educated people mostly capitalism oriented and that smart educated free-minded individuals are tending mostly on a more socialism side?

I listen to those people on the videos and they don't want to pay taxes, they prefer that their hard owned money goes directly in companies instead of their own country.

I guess maybe it's because I'm Canadian, maybe because I think being richer then other people is not a worthy lifetime but I like the idea that social services are payed with taxes.
Would you rather lend money to your government if ever you get sick, or an insurance company that will NOT finance anything other then their own greed?

Money is power. The government is the people, if the government is rich, the people are rich. Who needs power when you don't NEED to only think of yourself because everyone helps everyone. This is how people can look towards evolving instead of stepping on other peoples head to survive.


The issue here is not being richer than others. It is keeping the government hands out of your hard-earned paycheck. There is a difference. What happens though, is the Democrat liberals and marxist redistributionist types keep trying to mix everyone up about the reality by saying things like "the rich aren't paying their fare share". What this really means is that it's an excuse to raise taxes arbitrarily on who they consider to be "wealthy".
The Progressive income tax was devised and was always a goal of Marxist redistribution, so you see the more income you make, the higher the tax bracket is. That means the more wealth you have, the higher the rate of taxation is. So it is not that for every dollar you make you give x amt to the govt. The rate actually goes up the higher your income, so that every time you move to a higher income, you actually get penalized in taxes, so a progressive income tax scale is really a warfare against Capitalism. The more money you make, the more you have to give up so that others can have more, which is really what MO said during the campaign. She literally said we have to give up more of our pie so others can have more. That is Marxist redistribution if I ever heard it, which is why Glenn Becks pie analysis on his shows was so brilliant.
So, it is of course entirely arbitrary to declare people of a certain income level to be "wealthy" ( you know the famous $250,000 and above number) and also a futile exercise in relativity. This administration is waging class warfare in a major way. Of course the Democrats have been doing this a long time, just more under the radar, with their constant references to republicans being so wealthy and hating the poor and so on. Nothing but class warfare. They get the votes of course, because the average person does not realize that the more money the govt borrows, the higher the inflation goes, which is a hidden tax. When you start to make more money, you start to jump into higher tax brackets, and thus you are still pretty much in the same place as you were in the lower bracket. It's no wonder people buy into the whole class warfare thing, because they know that no matter how hard they work, they aren't getting much wealthier. The Progressive income tax destroys wealth.
Oh yes, and what the Big Govt liberals aren't telling you is that the really wealthy ones, the ones who really can afford to do more, are not only already doing more(you know all those Ford, Carnegie, and Mellon foundations on PBS) but they hide the rest of their money in trust funds and various tax shelters and in Swiss bank accounts generally not available to the rest of the proletariat.
Just take a look at Bill Gates as an example. Bill and Melinda have their own foundation and are very active in the AIDS thing in Africa. In fact, Gates is very pro vaccines for de-population(he said it right in a TED conference), so they give a lot of money for this charitable activity. The govt under the Clinton admin actually filed an anti trust suit against Microsoft to stem their monopolistic tendencies. But here is Gates, a liberal left billionaire. Wow, amazing, just think of it. Gates and Soros, both leftist billionaires, and can hide their money.
So the Democrats know these wealthy elites are already funding their favorite charities but hiding the rest of their money, and I'm guessing they still pay a lot of taxes. You and me on the other hand(unless you are a wealthy elitist like Soros) do not generally get these tax shelters and can barely afford to keep up with the cost of gas and milk and electricity.
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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 02:56 AM
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Does that imply that a rally full of tea-baggers will still fail to screw in a light-bulb?

If so, I only sorta chuckled, then felt sad.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by mistermonculous
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Does that imply that a rally full of tea-baggers will still fail to screw in a light-bulb?

If so, I only sorta chuckled, then felt sad.


I doubt it


I see very little difference between the Tea Bagger's and the Westboro Baptist Church. Is there one? Is there a difference? I mean trolling anything gets old after so long... yeah we get it. Closet racist is obvious. I cant help but think these people are some kind of sock puppets? I mean jazz it up with some red suspenders and shaved heads if you are going to go full racist. All this beating around the bush these clowns do has to have some shelf life one would think? A national embarrassment

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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 03:26 AM
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Some thousand-odd people making a sideshow spectacle of themselves being presented in the mainstream as the vacuously vocal minority= a terrible joke indeed.

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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 03:30 AM
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They don't have any ties to the Klan. This Has to be a Liberal Propaganda event. Well lets talk history. During the civil war 90 percent of slave owners were democrats. The Democrats created the "Klan" following the civil war as their para military arm. And boy did they use it.... Complete 100 percent fact. GOOGLE it. Also the Democratic party had to change their party name they were so hated for trying to destroy the USA in multiple ways right after the civil war.

Go to a TEA party event people. It's all about the people being sick of all the slimy politics. All races are there. it's just more lies and propaganda sorta like this thread. If you look at every time our country was in an emergency a Democrat was in office. Crash of the stock market, great depression, FDR illegally seizing and outlawing the ownership of Gold. World War 1 World War 2 Cuban missile crisis bay of pigs Vietnam. Kennedy was an awful president. Ya seeing a Pattern?.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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If the billionaires who bankroll the Tea Party would pay their fair share of taxes, The US government would be in much better shape financially. Giving the richest Americans tax cuts hasn't created any jobs. Why should we coddle these people? We should shun them. Boycott their products. Make them sorry. Nothing makes them sorrier when you hit them in the pocketbook.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 03:39 AM
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Well the thing is, I have more respect for someone that admits they are racist rather hide behind political correctness, they have a constitutional right to do what the do. But it's these liberties they take advantage of so much it is mockery. And it's the modus operandi in the way they do it is insulting and the audacity just makes my brain sad. Where were these people when Bush was raping our rights and running it all in the the ground? Or Clinton? When we have another Caucasian president they will fade in to obscurity and become a sad memory. They rather have a white Democrat then a black Republican imo.
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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
How many teabaggers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

I cant find any tea baggers at my local watering hole and pick a fight with yet these stooges seem to show up at these unofficial klan events? Who are these people and where do they come from?

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And it is biased bigoted folks like yourself that will be the ultimate death of whatever lberal outfit you belong to. Keep up the good work.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:22 AM
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Laugh OUT LOUD!!!! Ya don't like someone just call them a sock puppet! Or like some of the more prolific Alinskyites, throw around a couple big words in stretchy sentences and you're good to go eh.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 04:24 AM
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Ger, huh? As a wordy so-and-so, I take this post as a personal affront, and am drafting up a incoherent sign to display my in-day-ga-nation at the next rally.
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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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The fact that you are arguing this just shows that you are all sheep.
That is right I just called you all sheep, you are playing right into their hands by dividing your selves with this bull#. The American dream was for the common man to have a say in the day to day living of ourselves and yet we seem to repeating the same cycle that led to this division in the first place. Vote for what you feel is the truth in your heart, not for the bull# rally cries of the elite.
If there is no candidate you feel is equal to the job or the possibles then protest, and find a suitable candidate.

This labeling of people based on their beliefs started in the old world that we escaped and so many continue to perpetuate this idea. It is just absurd to me that more people do not relise that we can not be a union and be divided by labels....

I know many of you feel as I do. The votes are rigged, so why vote? If we as a people do not get what we voted on in the "Elections" then we need to "vote" with our money since that seems to be the only commodity the elite truly understand. Do not buy foreign products, do not support relief efforts that support other countries issues (I know this is harsh but think about it) we in the USA have plenty of issues to deal with that could use our direct concerted effort to resolve. Become involved with your local community, I think you would be surprised at how many feel the same way you do. Stop sitting behind your keyboard pissing and moaning.."Get her Done" as the cable guy has said.
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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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When you read someone saying "Here Is The Absolute Truth" about this or that, you can been sure you are reading at an attempt to mislead and misdirect. Such is the OP attempt at this thread.

The fact is many people and groups have tried their damnedest to "Highjack The Tea Party Movement"; to attempt some form of Akido to take over the movement and then redirected. However, the core beliefs of its members have not been subverted; i.e. bringing our country back to a nation based upon our Constitution, Bill of Rights and the One Man/Woman One Vote principals upon which our country was founded and built, and without except, the Tea Party Members believe in ending the Federal Reserve and putting our country back to printing our own money backed by gold, silver and other acceptable commodities. None of the people the OP says are saying funded and founded the tea Party are the founders..that is PURE B S and disinformation. The fact that wealthy individuals support the Tea Party ONLY MEANS they believe what is good for this country is good for their interests.

I am not saying the Tea Party has it all right, as I don't care for a number of positions they have taken but they have it more right than any group out there and certainly better for America than Obama and this Fascist State they are shoving down our throats.

Yes, I suspect we have a lot of "Sock Puppets" and Obamanuts here but if you are pro what this Government is and has been doing to our country, you are just a Traitor in my book.


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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 05:50 AM
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You people should know better and just provided the evidence. We could have saved all these pages of listening to Tea Party delusions of grandeur. The Tea Party is a well known Astroturf group and funding by Koch Industries is also well known.


Jane Mayer, of The New Yorker, in her 10,000 word piece last August, peeled the cover off the onion of the Koch brothers' empire. And she focused not only on their personal wealth and family, but on their political empire building.

It was not, and is not, easy to get the details on the extent of their tentacles. They funnel money through 501c3 tax-exempt foundations, and they give money to other foundations, lobbying organizations, and right wing think tanks. They have PACs; they support candidates. Only a small portion of what they control do they divulge.

But it has now come out how involved they have been in funding Tea Party groups, Americans for Prosperity, FreedomWorks, and Citizens for a Sound Economy ($12 million). [Check out a roundup of political cartoons on the Tea Party.]

We do know, from Mayer’s reporting, that the Koch brothers have personally given over $2 million to candidates over the last 12 years, their PAC has contributed $8 million to candidates, and they have spent $50 million on lobbying. The Charles Koch Foundation has given $48 million, and another foundation they control gave $28 million. David Koch’s foundation gave more than $120 million. According to Mayer, $196 million dollars in total was distributed in the last 10 years to conservative causes and institutions.
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Media Matters reported that the Koch family has given more than $12 million to CSE (predecessor of FreedomWorks) between 1985 and 2002. Sarah Scaife Foundation [has] given a total of $2.96 million in funding to FreedomWorks.[7] The Sarah Mellon Scaife Foundation is financed by the Mellon industrial, oil, and banking fortune. [8]The Claude R. Lambe Foundation, also controlled by the Koch family, has donated more than $3 million to Americans for Prosperity.
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More on "Freedomwork" and "AFP" astroturfing here, and here

Even Ron Paul acknowledges that the Tea Party has been taken over by corporate interests. (Source)

And then of course there are all the media ties/endorsements/sponsorships from Fox News. For example:

Fox News Channel took ownership of Tax Day Tea Parties around the nation by promoting them on-screen as "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties"
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More on Astroturfing:
The guardian: The Tea Party movement: deluded and inspired by billionaires: By funding numerous rightwing organisations, the mega-rich Koch brothers have duped millions into supporting big business (Source)


In July 2010, David Koch told New York magazine: "I've never been to a Tea Party event. No one representing the Tea Party has ever even approached me." But a fascinating new film – (Astro)Turf Wars, by Taki Oldham – tells a fuller story. Oldham infiltrated some of the movement's key organising events, including the 2009 Defending the American Dream summit, convened by a group called Americans for Prosperity (AFP). The film shows David Koch addressing the summit. "Five years ago," he explains, "my brother Charles and I provided the funds to start Americans for Prosperity. It's beyond my wildest dreams how AFP has grown into this enormous organisation."

A convener tells the crowd how AFP mobilised opposition to Barack Obama's healthcare reforms. "We hit the button and we started doing the Twittering and Facebook and the phonecalls and the emails, and you turned up!" Then a series of AFP organisers tell Mr Koch how they have set up dozens of Tea Party events in their home states. He nods and beams from the podium like a chief executive receiving rosy reports from his regional sales directors. Afterwards, the delegates crowd into AFP workshops, where they are told how to run further Tea Party events.[


Another writeup on the documentary here
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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 06:06 AM
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*yawn*
Yet ANOTHER person telling me what I am and who pays me.

Do you folks get off on being wrong? Because it happens quite a lot.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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Then tell us what is the majority opinion in the Tea Party, or opinion of those at the top. Because thats what matters for the actual policy that will get implemented if they eventually come into power, not your opinion.

So I am asking you, if the Tea Party hypothetically got into power tomorrow, would its policy be that of a racist bigoted homophobic fundamentalist-christian GOP clone on steroids, or true third party center pragmatic alternative avoiding and condemning the bad of both reps and dems as advertised?

The Tea Party started as a center pragmatic libertarian (both economic and personal freedoms) party. Now it turned into a clone of the GOP, maybe even more radical right as GOP. Too bad, it looked really good at the beginning.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 07:03 AM
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Any "information" disseminated from the left about anything is as interesting to me as what comes out of my dog's sphincter. I do believe that both major parties are dangerous to our future as a people - but they are not not equally dangerous!
While I want the corporate right's influence in politics reined in and suppressed, I would like to see the amorphous "left", in all its forms, totally crushed.
If individual liberty is promoted, equality and "social and economic justice" will follow. If "equality" is the primary goal, and is forced on a society to the elimination of certain individual rights, what follows would look like a rerun of the Spanish Civil War on a US stage.
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posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 07:17 AM
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The GOP co-opted the Tea Party because it had the right message.
Smaller government
Personal responsibility

If the Tea Party, the real Tea Party (not the ficticious one that many posters here and the MSM create) came into power, then we'd see a reduction in the size of government.
I know that upsets many people because they rely on Uncle Sam, but it's either a reduction or waiting until the govenment totally collapses and a complete loss of everything for everyone.



posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Smaller government
Personal responsibility
Guns for saving Lives
Less Taxes for everyone
Free food for everyone
Suicide Telephone Cabins
USA World Domination
Jesus Reborn
1000 Year Peace (with Guns)

/irony

oh and
Smaller government
Personal responsibility

and don't forget
Smaller government and
Personal responsibility




posted on Apr, 24 2011 @ 07:26 AM
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As far as I am concerned the anti tea party crap looks like the first series of 9/11 debunking videos and websites that plastering the web during the first few years following 9/11.
You know, like that guy who built the little metal cage building, set it on fire and then squashed it with his foot to somehow prove that 9/11 couldnt have happened via the official story......

Setup to fail.

IMPORTANT POINT #1 = DIEBOLD ESS VOTE FRAUD = we voted for none of them.
IMPORTANT POINT #2 = They are all the same yet wearing various masks.

The Constitution was the document used to subvert the rights of the free states and the Sovereigns yet there you are defending it like it was the Holy Grail. Blindly Defending that which was used to enslave us all!!!

Have you even read it?
Did you read the Articles of confederation?
Did you read about the ANTI FEDERALISTS?

Let me guess, Glenn Beck didnt cover this stuff?

If not, you need to wonder why.

Yeah, I know a tea party member, a few of them actually, as a matter of fact the last time I saw a lawyer it was his topic of discussion besides the business I was there for.

What is so mystifying about rich people using ANY/ALL political parties to get what they want?

The Fed, End the Fed yeah Mr Paul says (yes i read the book) yet all he really wants is for the FED to be ran by the Government yet over and over again Paul will blame the feds actions on irresponsible politicians.
So, dont trust the FOREIGN BANKSTERS yet USURY and INFLATION is fine as long as a politician is in charge of it.

The real PROGRESSIVES were the founding fathers who wanted to be Kings in their own right.
The real Progressives were the founding fathers who moved away from the Articles of Confederation and toward an all empowering CONstitution.

Time we put that into perspective. Progress means to move either toward or away from an idea, a point, a place etc etc... so who were the first progressives? and who were the sucessive progressives?

You speak of welfare yet you rarely speak of corporate welfare which accounts for the kings portion of our problem.
You speak of healthcare yet NEITHER SIDE looks at the costs and maybe that is because both sides is on BIG PHARMA payroll.
The real LIBERALS are the corporate LIBERALISTS and the military industrial LIBERALISTS who do everything but question CORPORATE WELFARE and/or WAR, oh sorry, I mean POLICE ACTIONS.

Where have you people been?
PATRIOT ACT I & II
HOMELAND SECURITY ACT
MULTIPLE UNJUST WARS OF AGGRESSION BASED ON PURE LIES

Really, none of this bothered the RIGHT and I guess the reason was that your BRIBE was enough to drown out the screams of the children born as ghosts!!!

Where have you been?

Once upon a time they were called Whigs and then they changed their name to republicans.
A vile racist was your first Puppet and try as you may to paint him as some GREAT MAN some of us are capable of seeing through to the cold dark heart of that cold blooded Killer of Indigneous Peoples.

A house is only as good as its foundation and so castles made of sand slip into the sea, eventually...

You will not be missed and in the next life you will be the indigenous peoples who will have their land stolen, their people enslaved and their culture destroyed, if you are lucky we will allow you to learn this most valueable of lessons before moving on to your true punishment.

"Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead"

Yeah......



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